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Nguyen v. Kirk: Stat Comparison

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profisme said:
PlayerRep said:
The stat comparison was for this season, and just on the rushing game. Nguyen and Kirk were both 2nd team all-conference. Nguyen was UM's MVP this year. Nguyen outplayed Kirk in the last 2 Griz-Cat games. Did I ever say who was the better back?

It doesn't seem worthwhile to compare punt return skills. Nguyen returned punts; Kirk didn't. Yes, Nguyen fumbled too many punts, but he also was a good returner. Are you going to tell us that Kirk has been a better college punt returner than Nguyen?

PlayerRep said:
Congrats to the Cats. Despite a bunch of dick Cat fans like yourself, I still like the MSU players and team. Also, congrats for winning the prior game against the Griz. However, I have to tell you that: The UM rushing game is better than the Cats rushing game. Nguyen is a better back than Kirk. Too bad Kirk got hurt; I always root for the local guys. You are lucky that Nguyen broke his thumb in the 3rd quarter, or he would have continued to run past your team. In Griz-Cat, Nguyen averaged 8.6 in 13 carries; Kirk 2.5 in 22 carries. Also, the UM rush defense is better than the Cats rush defense. Your qb was the difference in the Griz game, and from the little I saw of your playoff game, was also a big factor in your win.

Again, congrats. I don't expect MSU to last much longer in the playoffs, so enjoy it while it lasts.

Another example of you not being able to keep your thoughts straight.

Nope, another example of needing to edit my posts. I typed the post, and had put in something using the words "initial part of the thread" or something like that, lost what I typed, re-typed it, and didn't proof. I know what I meant, but unlike some posters on this board, I don't expect people to read my mind. Thx.
 
Jerry Punch said:
Again, PR, WHY DID YOU START THIS THREAD?

Because a discussion about Nguyen and Kirk was developing in another thread, I looked up their 2012 stats to date, and then decided to start a new thread with the 2012 stats.
 
PlayerRep said:
profisme said:
PlayerRep said:
The stat comparison was for this season, and just on the rushing game. Nguyen and Kirk were both 2nd team all-conference. Nguyen was UM's MVP this year. Nguyen outplayed Kirk in the last 2 Griz-Cat games. Did I ever say who was the better back?

It doesn't seem worthwhile to compare punt return skills. Nguyen returned punts; Kirk didn't. Yes, Nguyen fumbled too many punts, but he also was a good returner. Are you going to tell us that Kirk has been a better college punt returner than Nguyen?

PlayerRep said:
Congrats to the Cats. Despite a bunch of dick Cat fans like yourself, I still like the MSU players and team. Also, congrats for winning the prior game against the Griz. However, I have to tell you that: The UM rushing game is better than the Cats rushing game. Nguyen is a better back than Kirk. Too bad Kirk got hurt; I always root for the local guys. You are lucky that Nguyen broke his thumb in the 3rd quarter, or he would have continued to run past your team. In Griz-Cat, Nguyen averaged 8.6 in 13 carries; Kirk 2.5 in 22 carries. Also, the UM rush defense is better than the Cats rush defense. Your qb was the difference in the Griz game, and from the little I saw of your playoff game, was also a big factor in your win.

Again, congrats. I don't expect MSU to last much longer in the playoffs, so enjoy it while it lasts.

Another example of you not being able to keep your thoughts straight.

Nope, another example of needing to edit my posts. I typed the post, and had put and referred to the inital part of the thread, lost what I typed, re-typed it, and didn't proof. Thx.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
absolutely fricking hilarious
 
PlayerRep said:
Jerry Punch said:
Again, PR, WHY DID YOU START THIS THREAD?

Because a discussion about Nguyen and Kirk was developing in another thread, I looked up their 2012 stats to date, and then decided to start a new thread with the 2012 stats.
No, you were injecting PN into another thread about the Cats by claiming that um's 2012 team was actually better than MSU 2012 team is

You pushed that thread off topic until nobody wanted to hear from you so then you started your own asinine thread
 
I know how to resolve this..............tomorrow lets line em up on the goal line and have them compete in the say 100 yard dash. $10.00 bucks says Pete wins.
 
bigkid said:
I know how to resolve this..............tomorrow lets line em up on the goal line and have them compete in the say 100 yard dash. $10.00 bucks says Pete wins.
Right now it sounds like he would, if Cody really does have a torn MCL
 
Cats2506 said:
PlayerRep said:
Jerry Punch said:
Again, PR, WHY DID YOU START THIS THREAD?

Because a discussion about Nguyen and Kirk was developing in another thread, I looked up their 2012 stats to date, and then decided to start a new thread with the 2012 stats.
No, you were injecting PN into another thread about the Cats by claiming that um's 2012 team was actually better than MSU 2012 team is

You pushed that thread off topic until nobody wanted to hear from you so then you started your own asinine thread


Nope, I just pointed out (in some thread, but maybe not the one in question) that it was too bad the Nguyen had broken his thumb in the 2nd quarter. He had been playing very well until that point, and then played sparingly after that, eventually being unable to return punts. Only later in the thread (or maybe it was a different thread) did I say that I believed UM was the better team. When you Cat posters starting posting dumb things, I sometimes can't keep track of what thread it is. You're all alike to me.

Anyway, what's the big deal about comparing official full season stats for two players, both of whom were 2nd team all-conference? This is an internet message board. I said nothing, initially, about who I thought was the better player.
 
bigsky33 said:
I will take Kirk for what he contributed to winning 11 games so far this year. No he is not the fastest but he is the toughest and always comes up with the yards when they are really needed. Nguyen is a good runner too but didn't make the contribution for the Griz like Cody did with the Cats.


....and he's from Montana. And he's a walk on. And he was passed on by UM.

If Cody Kirk played for App State, Egriz would be up in arms for missing out....and that's a fact. :!:
 
Bear Spray said:
bigsky33 said:
I will take Kirk for what he contributed to winning 11 games so far this year. No he is not the fastest but he is the toughest and always comes up with the yards when they are really needed. Nguyen is a good runner too but didn't make the contribution for the Griz like Cody did with the Cats.


....and he's from Montana. And he's a walk on. And he was passed on by UM.

If Cody Kirk played for App State, Egriz would be up in arms for missing out....and that's a fact. :!:

If he was a walk-on, why didn't he walk on at UM? UM talked to him about walking on. I assume the answer is that he wanted to go to MSU, where some of his greater family had played.
 
indian-outlaw said:
I love Peter but he doesn't hold Cody's jock. If Kirk ran behind the UM o-line and Peter ran behind the cat o-lineKkirk would double Peters stats with the same amount of carries.
+1
 
PlayerRep said:
profisme said:
PlayerRep said:
I know what I meant, but unlike some posters on this board, I don't expect people to read my mind. Thx.

My new favorite example of PlayerRep Logic. Well done! You spent more time spewing ignorance in this post alone than you have watching Cody Kirk.

Do you ever actually read your drivel before hitting return??

Blind faith or hallucination, how do you tell between the two???
 
PlayerRep,

IMO and many others: You have absolutely outdone yourself with asinine posts in this thread. You should re-read your posts and apologize to RobGriz for attacking him for stating his personal opinion on his observations about the brothers' performances on the field in high school.

Seriously. This thread has classic off-the-track posting. Wow.

You have not helped yourself on this one with any reasonable poster, let alone your normal following of antagonists.

Really. Seriously man. Wow.
 
TheBud said:
PlayerRep,

IMO and many others: You have absolutely outdone yourself with asinine posts in this thread. You should re-read your posts and apologize to RobGriz for attacking him for stating his personal opinion on his observations about the brothers' performances on the field in high school.

Seriously. This thread has classic off-the-track posting. Wow.

You have not helped yourself on this one with any reasonable poster, let alone your normal following of antagonists.

Really. Seriously man. Wow.

Quoted for truth.
 
TheBud said:
PlayerRep,

IMO and many others: You have absolutely outdone yourself with asinine posts in this thread. You should re-read your posts and apologize to RobGriz for attacking him for stating his personal opinion on his observations about the brothers' performances on the field in high school.

Seriously. This thread has classic off-the-track posting. Wow.

You have not helped yourself on this one with any reasonable poster, let alone your normal following of antagonists.

Really. Seriously man. Wow.

Feel free to point out the specifics of your asinine comment. I'll be waiting. I didn't attack RobGriz. I asked him if he had attended Bellevue games. That's all I said. He didn't answer, but then he started calling me names. Go back and look. I'm 100% right on this. I'll be waiting for your apology.
 
This post is for Bud, to show how asinine his recent comment was. Here's the progression of my posts and RobGriz's.

RG: In response to Granite, "Not saying you're wrong, but I watched PN play in high school and I watched JN play in High School and PN at least in High School was better than JN. Just my $.02"

PR: "Did you ever attend a Bellevue game?"

RG: "No, I watched them play at their other high school."

PR: Responding to KurtisM''s post: "I didn't question whether RG attended a Bellevue game. I just asked him the question. And note that he didn't answer the question. I have relatives who played with Peter at Bellevue, and have a relative playing at Bellevue now. My guess is that I know alot more about Bellevue football, and have and have had much more information about Bellevue football, than RG. And based on RG's failure to answer the question, I doubt that he has attended many Bellevue games."

RG: [Note the insults now.] "I realize that you are slow, even by lawyer standards, but HOW IN THE HELL WOULD I HAVE WATCHED THEM PLAY IN HIGH SCHOOL IF I HAD NOT ATTENDED A BELLEVUE GAME? Gawd you're an idiot. Fuqing lawyers."

PR: "You could have watched on tv, and not in person. You may have watched one game in person. You may be lying. How many times did you attend Bellevue games in person when Nguyen was playing?"

RG: "In the past 10 years I've probably seen 15-20 or so in person and watched 8-10 on TV."

RG: [Note the continuing insults.] "I did both. And I did not say I was a definitive expert, I just said that was my opinion. You realize where I live right? The team my son was the ball boy for for 7 years and then played for played Bellevue at least once a year. I have seen them play in every semi-final game and state final game they have been in for the last several years. ALL of those games are played in the T-Dome. Pay one price, see 4 football games. See you sit there, in Montana, thinking you have a clue what the fuq you are talking about, but you have not-a-clue about high school football in Washington, in particular western Washington. CASE CLOSED, BIOTCH!"

PR: [Note, still no insults from me and no disagreeing with his opinion either.] "Thanks for the information. Too bad you couldn't have spit that out a bit faster. Again, I know plenty about Bellevue football. Multiple relatives attend or attended Bellevue high. Three play or played football there. Because of my relatives, I follow Bellevue football closely. From my relative who attends UM, I have known all of the Bellevue players who have attended UM in recent history.

I think it's funny that you are so defensive, and that you have gotten a bit nasty and started name-calling, when all I did was ask you if you attended Bellevue games. That doesn't seem like it should have been a hard question to answer."

RG: [Note that this is his third post in a row with insults. None from me, yet.] "Well if you weren't so thick headed you would've understood that when I said I watched the two Nguyen boys play, that meant, you know, that I WATCHED THEM PLAY. I didn't think that I would need to explain what that meant over and over and over or have to give an accounting of myself but then again I am not used to being grilled by second rate lawyers. I believe everyone else that read my post knew exactly what I meant...except you, strange."

PR: [Note still no insults or name-calling from me.] "So, if I'm a second rate lawyer (ha-ha), how am I supposed to read your mind? Do you really not understand there's a difference between watching a game in person and watching it on tv? Actually, I think you're probably lying anyway. And seeing that you get your football information from following around a ball boy makes your information even more suspect."

RG: [Note more insults from RG.] "If it makes you feel better, go with it. Your lack of reading comprehension is mind blowing. No wonder you are a lawyer even the idiot working the counter at Mickey D's needs to know how to read the menu."

Looks like the one post I finally made about my thinking that RG probably lying (I don't think he attended as many Bellevue games as he said), and having suspect info from following a ball boy to games, may have been deleted.

Again, Bud, I'm waiting for the apology from you. I actually never disagreed with his opinion even once. Just tried to ask him if he attended games, which he refused to answer for multiple posts. However, he had time to start insulting me and calling me names.

Bud, time to man up about your mistake here.
 
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