Next up 3/5 vs. NCU

[i do love the griz]

I think a championship banner is a pretty cool thing to hang up. I may be in the minority here, but it would have been something the players could always point to down through their lives. Weber earned theirs by battling until they won. We didn't.

Another downside is if we should happen to win the tournament, this loss will be taken into account during the seeding and it won't look good.

I absolutely agree that hanging banners is a good thing, I'm just far more concerned with a postseason banner than a regular season banner. Both are very good things to have, one is just more important than the other.

 

[GrizLA]

catla, no one is blaming the officials for loss. The loss was due to the Griz failure to show up.

But if you can honestly say that was a fun, enjoyable game of basketball to watch, you're f-cked in the head. And far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far too many bsc games are just like that. A f-cking back and forth parade to the free throw line for "fouls" that have NO impact on the game while 14 other guys get taken to local hospitals for injuries sustained while there was no whistle. That was awful.

But i wouldn't expect you to understand.

Miss Grizbox, you have serious mental problems along with a lack of reading comprehension. I guess menopause can be rough on some people, if that is the problem. Don't worry, it will pass. Most women experience it. Good luck

 

[IdaGriz01]

I think a championship banner is a pretty cool thing to hang up. I may be in the minority here, but it would have been something the players could always point to down through their lives. Weber earned theirs by battling until they won. We didn't.

Another downside is if we should happen to win the tournament, this loss will be taken into account during the seeding and it won't look good.

honestly....I am not sure the loss to UNC will make a huge difference for seeding if the Griz win the tourney....

Don't know either, box. I was thinking the difference between a 15 and a 16 seed. Is it possible a BSC team would have one of the play in games?

As it stands now, the Big Sky is #27 (out of 32) in conference RPI ranking. That's not the only criteria used, but I would guess that being that far down could indeed put the BSC auto-bid in a play-in ("first four" in PC-speak) game. That's not all bad -- they might get matched up against a team they might be able to beat.

 

[Alaska Griz]

I think a championship banner is a pretty cool thing to hang up. I may be in the minority here, but it would have been something the players could always point to down through their lives. Weber earned theirs by battling until they won. We didn't.

Another downside is if we should happen to win the tournament, this loss will be taken into account during the seeding and it won't look good.

Agree completely...also a great edge in recruiting when you can point to the banner as a sign of a winning program.

 

[jodcon]

I think a championship banner is a pretty cool thing to hang up. I may be in the minority here, but it would have been something the players could always point to down through their lives. Weber earned theirs by battling until they won. We didn't.

Another downside is if we should happen to win the tournament, this loss will be taken into account during the seeding and it won't look good.

honestly....I am not sure the loss to UNC will make a huge difference for seeding if the Griz win the tourney....

Don't know either, box. I was thinking the difference between a 15 and a 16 seed. Is it possible a BSC team would have one of the play in games?

Not that far of a stretch, 4 lowest at large teams vs. 4 lowest ranked conference champions...I haven't looked at RPI but I would guess the BSC is close to that bottom 4.

 

[EverettGriz]

Well, an 8th seeded team just won their tournament. There's always a handful of those. I'm guessing a 14/15 for either UM or Weebs. Playin/16 for anyone else.

 

[BigSkyBears]

Just looked in. Wow....UM is now trailing the worst team in the Big Sky in Missoula? Well, there is always a tournament in Reno. This team is really the most inconsistent I have ever seen at UM...when they are good, they are really good. But, as in the games at San Jose and in Missoula vs Idaho, not to mention NDSU, they are extremely bad. They need work in the off season for sure.

We're ahead of 4 other teams in the conference standings. Why would you say UNC is the worst?

 

[Potomac Griz]

With the way the RPI is for the Big Sky this year (including the top teams in the Big Sky) I'd guess 15 is the best we'll see for a Big Sky team. The Griz and Weber have a shot at at 15 depending on how other conference tournaments go.

Idaho and EWU might get a 16 without a play-in game... with EWU having been in the tournament last year thety might get rewarded (it happens sometimes) due to having made back to back tournament appearances. The killer for them right now is their RPI and how they have 0 good wins. In fact they have 0 wins over teams ranked better than 200 in RPI. If I were betting money I'd bet if EWU or Idaho wins it they'd get a play-in game unfortunately

Any other team is pretty much guaranteed a play-in game unless there are some major upsets in other low or mid-major tournaments.

It wasn't a good year for the Big Sky...

 

[GrizLA]

Just looked in. Wow....UM is now trailing the worst team in the Big Sky in Missoula? Well, there is always a tournament in Reno. This team is really the most inconsistent I have ever seen at UM...when they are good, they are really good. But, as in the games at San Jose and in Missoula vs Idaho, not to mention NDSU, they are extremely bad. They need work in the off season for sure.

We're ahead of 4 other teams in the conference standings. Why would you say UNC is the worst?

Sorry. I guess I misjudged since NCU has an RPI of 311 better than a couple of BSC, but, they did beat UM in Missoula so, sorry, I mis cued..

 

[BigSkyBears]

Just looked in. Wow....UM is now trailing the worst team in the Big Sky in Missoula? Well, there is always a tournament in Reno. This team is really the most inconsistent I have ever seen at UM...when they are good, they are really good. But, as in the games at San Jose and in Missoula vs Idaho, not to mention NDSU, they are extremely bad. They need work in the off season for sure.

We're ahead of 4 other teams in the conference standings. Why would you say UNC is the worst?

Sorry. I guess I misjudged since NCU has an RPI of 311 better than a couple of BSC, but, they did beat UM in Missoula so, sorry, I mis cued..

I don't know who NCU is, so that's okay. :thumb:

 

[Potomac Griz]

Just looked in. Wow....UM is now trailing the worst team in the Big Sky in Missoula? Well, there is always a tournament in Reno. This team is really the most inconsistent I have ever seen at UM...when they are good, they are really good. But, as in the games at San Jose and in Missoula vs Idaho, not to mention NDSU, they are extremely bad. They need work in the off season for sure.

We're ahead of 4 other teams in the conference standings. Why would you say UNC is the worst?

Because he and a few others have a tendency to go over-the-top emo after the Griz have a rough game. Exaggerations are made to try to bolster their emo-riffic wailing. They seem to always forget that games like the one tonight happen occasionally, even to good teams... I could probably pull up posts where the sky was falling, the team was "the most inconsistent Griz team EVER", the season was over, and all that stuff from damn near every one of the last 10+ seasons including the seasons we made it to the NCAA tournament. Hell, the sky was falling at least a couple times during that awesome 2005-2006 season when the Griz went 24-7 and beat Nevada in the tournament.

I'm pretty sure the same stuff happens on most fan message boards though... Look at Weber's after they lost to Idaho the other day for example

The game tonight was ugly...reffing was ugly (for both sides) and UNC took advantage of that by being the aggressor knowing they'd get to the line a lot while the Griz seemed to be passive for a good chunk of the 2nd half especially. Rough game to watch for Griz fans.

 

[statler & waldorf]

Before this game, there had been some mention of recruiting impact of championship banners, State A crowd, the Band, etc. Now, there has been two late season games the Griz just didn't show up for in the second hath, like tonight's seven point halftime lead turned six point loss. Can't minimize what TD has accomplished this season, but will this late season non-performance affect recruiting, or, do we pin hopes on tournament performance. Just wondering.

 

[first11]

Hard loss, especially at home to these bears! Simply outplayed. Outside of Kansas, our losses came due to a funk that is hard to explain. As one poster noted, we can be a very good team and those nights when we simply go through the motions.

Hopefully we find our good team form in Reno.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Hopefully they use this loss appropriately ie motivation.

 

['68griz]

It was a frustrating game to watch. Oh, the first half was pretty good, but the Griz simply did not show up in the second half. A disappointing end to the regular season, for sure.

 

[fanofzoo]

It was a frustrating game to watch. Oh, the first half was pretty good, but the Griz simply did not show up in the second half. A disappointing end to the regular season, for sure.

Agree to that but remember every team loses the last one except one

 

[UMGriz75]

Well, that performance was just too flat.

The first half went well enough, in FG, 3Pt and FT,
Griz were 46%, 80% and 50%

The second half, geez, what happened in the Locker Room?
Griz went 35%, 27%, 67%.

High scorer Walter Wright, got half of his 18 points from the FT line, Breunig more than half of his 13 points from the FT line. GFeller had another one of those inexplicable nights, just 1 of 7 FG and 1 of 7 3pt. Jack Lopez did shine, with 5 of 8 FG and 5 of 8 3pt. Bears got 19 points off of turnovers. Breunig and Oguine must have accounted for half of those.

There was something else going on there, likely off court. Like a death was announced in the Locker Room, or something. There was no floor leadership at all, and DeCuire was just going through the motions as well. It wasn't just an "off night" in the second half against a 7-11 conference team, that lost those seven games in its most recent 8 outings.

 

[mtgrizrule]

This loss will bite me for awhile. I was there and could not believe how much the GRIZ struggled offensively against UNC. Credit goes to UNC, they chose to make things tough for Breunig and the GRIZ never gave them reason to go away from it. Also UNC's guards hit a lot of very tightly contested perimeter shots. The 3 pointer from nearly 30' as the clock was winding down was amazing, and the final nail in the coffin.

The GRIZ inability to get in sync offensively in the 2nd half cost them this game. Our guards just were not finding the open players, and turning the ball over way too often. Breunig often found an open player, just to have the result be missed perimeter shot after shot.

This game, yet again, showed this team goes as does Gfeller and/or Moorehead. Each only hit 1 3 point shot. I am guessing, they normally combine for 5 to 6 3's per game. They certainly had the open opportunities to do just that too. The GRIZ just need them to combine for 2 more 3's to likely have won the game. Thankfully, Lopez was keeping the GRIZ in the game. It does not help any when the GRIZ cannot find any 2nd post scorer. That has been a problem all season. Krslovic has struggled offensively all year. He needs to pick up the scoring for the games that Breunig is limited for whatever reasons.

Seriously, if I were the GRIZ, I would really focus on adding a few wrinkles to get Krslovic going. That would also be beneficial going into next season. Rest of the improvement is simply a matter of better taking care of the ball, and hitting the open perimeter shots we do get, regardless of who is getting the shots.

I was surprised the GRIZ lacked defensive continuity and coersion for much of the game. They just were not in sync as a team on both ends of the court. That happens now and then offensively. However, that is a rarity for the GRIZ on defense. I am confident this is the 1st thing DeCuire addresses with emphasis all this week in practice. By the sound of his tone, and his words in the post game interview, he was very upset with the defense performance and they lacked desire. It showed as well. In the 2nd half, UNC was flat out out hustling and out executing the GRIZ on both ends of the court. Combine that with too many stupid turnovers, and you get one unfocused team.

Fortunately for the GRIZ, there is not a team in the conference on a roll going into the conference tournament. Every team is lacking something and has issues to work out. Despite this bad loss, I still consider the GRIZ and Weber State as the best teams in the conference. The conference tournament will be interesting, to say the least.

 

[GrizWhiz]

Well, that performance was just too flat.

The first half went well enough, in FG, 3Pt and FT,
Griz were 46%, 80% and 50%

The second half, geez, what happened in the Locker Room?
Griz went 35%, 27%, 67%.

High scorer Walter Wright, got half of his 18 points from the FT line, Breunig more than half of his 13 points from the FT line. GFeller had another one of those inexplicable nights, just 1 of 7 FG and 1 of 7 3pt. Jack Lopez did shine, with 5 of 8 FG and 5 of 8 3pt. Bears got 19 points off of turnovers. Breunig and Oguine must have accounted for half of those.

There was something else going on there, likely off court. Like a death was announced in the Locker Room, or something. There was no floor leadership at all, and DeCuire was just going through the motions as well. It wasn't just an "off night" in the second half against a 7-11 conference team, that lost those seven games in its most recent 8 outings.

The Decuire I watched was not "going through the motions." I have never seen him more antimated with the team during the timeouts and I have been to every home game. That said, it is still hard to understand how they could lose at home to UNC.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Well, that performance was just too flat.

The first half went well enough, in FG, 3Pt and FT,
Griz were 46%, 80% and 50%

The second half, geez, what happened in the Locker Room?
Griz went 35%, 27%, 67%.

High scorer Walter Wright, got half of his 18 points from the FT line, Breunig more than half of his 13 points from the FT line. GFeller had another one of those inexplicable nights, just 1 of 7 FG and 1 of 7 3pt. Jack Lopez did shine, with 5 of 8 FG and 5 of 8 3pt. Bears got 19 points off of turnovers. Breunig and Oguine must have accounted for half of those.

There was something else going on there, likely off court. Like a death was announced in the Locker Room, or something. There was no floor leadership at all, and DeCuire was just going through the motions as well. It wasn't just an "off night" in the second half against a 7-11 conference team, that lost those seven games in its most recent 8 outings.

The Decuire I watched was not "going through the motions." I have never seen him more antimated with the team during the timeouts and I have been to every home game. That said, it is still hard to understand how they could lose at home to UNC.

I thought he was damn intense and working his ass off too. I think he wanted to use a technical foul later on though. The referee who T'd him up early, had a quick whistle. Travis was questioning a call and really did not do much to deserve the T.