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Next up 3/12 BS Championship vs. Weber St

cmtgrizzly said:
You could be right. All of projection stuff are guesses when it comes to "bubble teams" but OSU has moved from ESPN first 4 out to being in. Guess we will see tomorrow
Hmmm. Was looking over the numbers as the final results came in and I can see where a case could be made for OSU, based on their RPI rank of 30 and SOS of 7 (numbers as of Friday). Their BPI is not nearly so good (#61), but it is in the top 68. And despite my rule of thumb about number of wins, some of my misses have been when the committee picked teams from power conferences that had only 17 D-I wins. OSU could fit that mode -- I'll have to take a hard look before I make my final list. Part of the reason they've moved in on the pundits lists is also because some teams that were supposed to be good slumped toward the end of the season and in the tournaments.
 
A year ago, after leaving the bar following the loss to Eastern Washington in the championship game, I was depressed. I felt it was a game we should have won but let get away from us.

Last night? No such feeling. This was a game that we could have won, could have snatched away from Weber down the stretch, but it was a game that never really belonged to us. Weber took control early, shooting brilliantly, and never really gave the game back, playing terrific defense down the stretch to stifle our hopes. As I mentioned in another thread, I believe Weber will get a slightly higher seeding, and may be the conference's better representative at the Big Dance. I will be rooting hard for them.

But none of this deflects from the pride I feel this morning for our program--our players, their character, our coaching staff. I thought defensively our scheme was brilliant, the execution stupendous. I don't know when I've seen a team play better team defense, and that includes the Warriors, probably the best defensive team in the NBA. The shots Weber made early from long range were the kinds of shots you wanted them to take, not the inside post-up moves of a Bolomboy, who was really taken out of this game. The difference between this Griz team and the one I saw in San Jose in November was unimaginably stark.

And down fourteen in the first half, you can look at it this way: We won the rest of the game by eleven. Our kids just didn't ever give up, or play with their heads down, a testimony to DeCuire's leadership and this team's character.

One might question our late-game strategy, and I have done that myself. The other night against North Carolina, I saw Duke extend a game, and extend a game, and extend a game, and almost win a game they had no right to win. Foul, foul, foul. Put the pressure on the opposing team's foul shooters late, when they're tired and the pressure is intense. We did not do that. And suddenly, you look up, and there are only seven seconds left, and they have the ball to inbound.

At the same time, I recently saw Golden State win a game against OKC that they had no right to win, by NOT fouling late, by trapping Kevin Durant instead of fouling, and having him throw an errant pass that led to an interception and two late free throws to tie the game. There were moments where our press really rattled Weber; heck, Michael Oguine is almost a one-man press. So while our strategy did not work, I'm not going to question it given the earlier success we'd had with our traps and our double-teams.

Nor does last night's loss deflect any of the optimism I have for this program for next year, and especially the year after that. I can hardly wait to see the three new recruits on the floor together with this team, and eagerly anticipate the opening of Fall practice. The loss last night was but a cloud in a sunny Griz future.
 
citay said:
A year ago, after leaving the bar following the loss to Eastern Washington in the championship game, I was depressed. I felt it was a game we should have won but let get away from us.

Last night? No such feeling. This was a game that we could have won, could have snatched away from Weber down the stretch, but it was a game that never really belonged to us. Weber took control early, shooting brilliantly, and never really gave the game back, playing terrific defense down the stretch to stifle our hopes. As I mentioned in another thread, I believe Weber will get a slightly higher seeding, and may be the conference's better representative at the Big Dance. I will be rooting hard for them.

But none of this deflects from the pride I feel this morning for our program--our players, their character, our coaching staff. I thought defensively our scheme was brilliant, the execution stupendous. I don't know when I've seen a team play better team defense, and that includes the Warriors, probably the best defensive team in the NBA. The shots Weber made early from long range were the kinds of shots you wanted them to take, not the inside post-up moves of a Bolomboy, who was really taken out of this game. The difference between this Griz team and the one I saw in San Jose in November was unimaginably stark.

And down fourteen in the first half, you can look at it this way: We won the rest of the game by eleven. Our kids just didn't ever give up, or play with their heads down, a testimony to DeCuire's leadership and this team's character.

One might question our late-game strategy, and I have done that myself. The other night against North Carolina, I saw Duke extend a game, and extend a game, and extend a game, and almost win a game they had no right to win. Foul, foul, foul. Put the pressure on the opposing team's foul shooters late, when they're tired and the pressure is intense. We did not do that. And suddenly, you look up, and there are only seven seconds left, and they have the ball to inbound.

At the same time, I recently saw Golden State win a game against OKC that they had no right to win, by NOT fouling late, by trapping Kevin Durant instead of fouling, and having him throw an errant pass that led to an interception and two late free throws to tie the game. There were moments where our press really rattled Weber; heck, Michael Oguine is almost a one-man press. So while our strategy did not work, I'm not going to question it given the earlier success we'd had with our traps and our double-teams.

Nor does last night's loss deflect any of the optimism I have for this program for next year, and especially the year after that. I can hardly wait to see the three new recruits on the floor together with this team, and eagerly anticipate the opening of Fall practice. The loss last night was but a cloud in a sunny Griz future.

Great post, citay! Every game you see a shot or three that rattles the rim & drops down, only to somehow spin up & out of the hoop. Last night I counted 5/6 for the Griz that did that (impossible!): one each by Jack and Bobby, and two each by Walter and Mario. Crazy. All good shots that would have changed the game, but didn't. In essence, that unpredictability is why I love this game so much. Hurts a bit this morning, but I also have the firm belief that this team's going places. Hope they get a chance with an invite somewhere.
 
I felt better after the Weber loss than the EWU loss. Thought we gave it away last year, even tho EWU was also taking it away. This year it was a battle the whole game by two good teams. Neither team backed off or collapsed. A few plays here or there. A few rolls here or there. A few more breaks one way or the other. Wish we'd found a way to win, but nice win for Weber. I like how Weber plays too. And love how the Griz played all season, with the exception of a couple games or halves. Hope there's another home game. Don't want the season to be over. Love this team and how it's coached.
 
Congrats to Weber. They deserved to win. Great defense by both teams.

Love the heart shown from the Griz. Feel terrible for MB and Mick.

Let's make a deep, deep run in whatever post season tournament we end up in.
 
PlayerRep said:
I felt better after the Weber loss than the EWU loss. Thought we gave it away last year, even tho EWU was also taking it away. This year it was a battle the whole game by two good teams. Neither team backed off or collapsed. A few plays here or there. A few rolls here or there. A few more breaks one way or the other. Wish we'd found a way to win, but nice win for Weber. I like how Weber plays too. And love how the Griz played all season, with the exception of a couple games or halves. Hope there's another home game. Don't want the season to be over. Love this team and how it's coached.

I 100% agree with you on ALL points, PlayerRep! :thumb: This team is continuing to define itself and should not get down because the ball bounced sideways a few times. I'd love to see the Griz get a home-court game (or road game) in the post season. I Strongly believe the Montana team that hosted (and lost to) Duquesne in 2011, learned from it all which set the stage for their two consecutive titles in 2012-13.
 
PlayerRep said:
I felt better after the Weber loss than the EWU loss. Thought we gave it away last year, even tho EWU was also taking it away. This year it was a battle the whole game by two good teams. Neither team backed off or collapsed. A few plays here or there. A few rolls here or there. A few more breaks one way or the other. Wish we'd found a way to win, but nice win for Weber. I like how Weber plays too. And love how the Griz played all season, with the exception of a couple games or halves. Hope there's another home game. Don't want the season to be over. Love this team and how it's coached.

Totally agree on all points. Really hope the Griz get another home game (or better yet more than one) in the CIT or CBI. They deserve it!

On a side note, I also thought the game against Weber was a very well ref'd game, which is odd for the Big Sky. I loved that the crew let the players play and didn't try to take over the game. Sure there were some fouls that were missed, but I'd much rather have some missed fouls than a whistle happy crew that calls 50 fouls in a game. Compare it to the game at home vs UNC... 56 fouls called combined and 61 free throws shot... That's not basketball...

What we saw last night was what Big Sky basketball SHOULD be all the time. Physical defense, few whistles, and the players battling it out to the end rather than the refs dictating everything & the players just having a FT shooting contest.

The type of game we saw last night not only is a hell of a lot more fun for the fans to watch (and probably the players to play) but it also does a much better job preparing Big Sky teams for post season tournaments against big-time programs who play very physical. If by some miracle that type of officiating becomes the norm for the Big Sky it would sure be a step in the right direction towards making the Big Sky a better conference!

Kudos to Weber for holding on at the end also, and I hope they are this year's Cinderella story in the NCAA while the Griz make a deep run in the CIT or CBI :thumb:
 
Citay, well said sir, I couldn't agree more.
Potomac, I like your take on the ref's, I didn't even notice them which is what should be, hopefully it could be the norm.

Nice game Weebs.
 
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