hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Welcome Johnny
We are finally getting some o lineman! A year on the gain program and weight room will turn this kid into a beast!
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NEW GRIZ: Johnny Barthel- OL Bellevue WA
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Welcome Johnny
We are finally getting some o lineman! A year on the gain program and weight room will turn this kid into a beast!
CatzWillRise
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Not so long ago (the Kramer era) the Cats signed guys that were like 240 out of high school, and by the time they were redshirt sophomores and juniors they were up to 280-290. Choate has landed bigger guys but I think his strategy may be changing.
Face it, if a kid is big, strong, athletic, he isn't going FCS. OL are prized recruits. You are either going to get a kid who is 280-300 and is either raw in terms of skill, slow, not strong for his size, etc. Or a kid who has a lot of talent and is already developed from a skill standpoint, but who is about 50-60 pounds shy of where he needs to be.
Once in a while an FBS guy falls down into the FCS ranks, but it's the exception.
Face it, if a kid is big, strong, athletic, he isn't going FCS. OL are prized recruits. You are either going to get a kid who is 280-300 and is either raw in terms of skill, slow, not strong for his size, etc. Or a kid who has a lot of talent and is already developed from a skill standpoint, but who is about 50-60 pounds shy of where he needs to be.
Once in a while an FBS guy falls down into the FCS ranks, but it's the exception.
Johnny is a two-star recruit and he is ranked the 239th best OT recruit for 2019 by Scout.com. That happens to be one spot below NDSU tackle recruit, Jake Rock. Jake goes 6'6" and 250. Maybe the coaches are on to something after all?
https://www.scout.com/Season/2019-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=OT
Welcome, Johnny. I'm looking forward to watching you make a big impact on this program in the coming years!
https://www.scout.com/Season/2019-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=OT
Welcome, Johnny. I'm looking forward to watching you make a big impact on this program in the coming years!
I think most fans want immediate help on the o-line to address several years of disappointing play. That is likely why there has been some disappointment/sarcasm with this commit because he likely won't make an immediate impact. Johnny is part of the future and we should be extremely happy to have him. In general, you don't want to play true frosh at this position anyway. Give him a year to develop physically on his large frame which will blend nicely with his athleticism and attitude and he could be something special.
The immediate help is also being sought out via FBS transfer and JC transfer. It would be nice to land one or two of those to help the current o-line. In the meantime, I for one am very happy with this recruit!
The immediate help is also being sought out via FBS transfer and JC transfer. It would be nice to land one or two of those to help the current o-line. In the meantime, I for one am very happy with this recruit!
Same could have been said for our starting RT this year. FCS programs have to find developmental prospects like this young man give him until he is a RS Junior and we won’t be saying this. I like his frame and his film shows good feet so I think this is a great pickup.
grizindabox said:AZGrizFan said:HookedonGriz said:Griz2k said:
Looks young. Check his hudl tape and you’ll like what you see, 12 or not
Not sure if it’s the design of the offense or what, but his highlight film is mostly him scraping off to the 2nd level and demolishing someone 60-70 pounds lighter than him....How’s he gonna do against a guy like EWU’s 310 lb NT? Or MSU’s 305 lb NT?
How often is a tackle blocking a NT, especially 1 v 1?
Not very often. I only use that as an example. Point being, there's very little video of him actually taking on the lineman in front of him. It's usually him against an LB or a S....
NendzoneGRIZ
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Paytonlives said:
No sh*t
