NDSU Offense

[grizghost]

....we can complain about Rosey play calling and we should BUT didn't Hauck hire
Phenicie to overlook the offensive play calling schemes... just wondering what's the
impact Phenicie has had ...second half play calling during the SEMO game seem to
a little more diverse especially in the passing ....puzzling to me!

....maybe Hauck heard the booing fans and told Phenicie to take over the play calling....but
in all seriously they need to make these adjustments to compete with the Bisons..Im hoping
for the upset...

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

....we can complain about Rosey play calling and we should BUT didn't Hauck hire
Phenicie to overlook the offensive play calling schemes... just wondering what's the
impact Phenicie has had ...second half play calling during the SEMO game seem to
a little more diverse especially in the passing ....puzzling to me!

....maybe Hauck heard the booing fans and told Phenicie to take over the play calling....but
in all seriously they need to make these adjustments to compete with the Bisons..Im hoping
for the upset...

As an analyst, Phen cannot engage in any direct coaching activities during games or practices. An analyst is more of a quality-control coach or administrative assistant than a part of the coaching staff.

 

[grizghost]

....we can complain about Rosey play calling and we should BUT didn't Hauck hire
Phenicie to overlook the offensive play calling schemes... just wondering what's the
impact Phenicie has had ...second half play calling during the SEMO game seem to
a little more diverse especially in the passing ....puzzling to me!

....maybe Hauck heard the booing fans and told Phenicie to take over the play calling....but
in all seriously they need to make these adjustments to compete with the Bisons..Im hoping
for the upset...

As an analyst, Phen cannot engage in any direct coaching activities during games or practices. An analyst is more of a quality-control coach or administrative assistant than a part of the coaching staff.

..thanks I never knew that...interesting

 

[daGrizJ]

What’s Hunter Luepke’s status at this point? Is he expected to be back?

The NDSU coach said Hunter is "unavailable" for the game this weekend.

 

[Bear Spray]

MSU rushed for 6.8 ypc on 62 attempts against Griz. Ouch. UM cannot run the damn ball, & NDSU is stout against the run. NDSU will pin their ears back & we’ll see the exploding cauliflower from their nostrils just before they eat your qb’s & spit out bear bones. Wish it were different, Im tired of those obnoxiously spoiled-ass dbags.

So the scats had one good game against their rivals, and they're f###[#] world-beaters now. You guys barely beat NAU, EWU, and needed dropped passes and four bad snaps that led to 8 points to win AT HOME by 5 points. GTFO with this shit.

if you actually pay attention to anyone outside of the scats, you'd see NDSU is having their worst defensive year in forever. Susceptible against the run giving up almost 150 yds (I can't remember the last time they gave up that much), and their d-backs aren't great, especially after a starter entered the portal. People who know the program at NDSU think this is the year they could be upset early in the playoffs....but by all means, continue using your one good game you played this year to demoralize the Griz, going forward that arrogance should play out well against Weber or your next opponent going forward if you win.

Dude please. All I said about the Cats was the rushing stats from Cat Griz, responding to a guy who said he didn't even want to know the rushing stats were , and they weren't as bad as he thought. 1 sentence. So STFU with your bullshit. One good game? Have you watched the Cats this year or do you just blow shit out of your ass? Interesting how you call out the 4 bad snap safeties in the Weber game but conveniently forget about the 2 runbacks of kicks the Cats gave to Weber. 14 points there. Watch those replays and count the blatant blocks in the back, or don't because we all know bad calls are what the Big Sky's all about. Weber can beat the Cats Saturday, they're a great team. So can NDSU, SDSU, Sac, Idaho, and a handful of others. I"ve actually watched NDSU this year (have you?) and I wouldn't want MSU to play them, even in Bozeman with a blizzard & them wearing the wrong cleats. Down? Yes. Bad? No. There's a reason they're ranked #3. The reason is they lost a close game to SDSU, otherwise they'd be #1. I don't see the Griz staying with them. No running game. Kinda like MSU with no passing game against them the last 3 years. NDSU will go after Johnson & I don't see the Griz having a way to move the ball. And...I loathe NDSU.

 

[uofmman1122]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy fucked up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

 

[Bear Spray]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy f###[#] up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

Hmm, likely because Griz fans are fixated on the 4 plays, & MSU gave up 14 points vs the 8 Weber gave up. Outside of 2 Weber drives, MSU dominated the game, (Weber rushed for 181 & 14/30 passing for 151 Cats rushed for 347, 15/23 for 140) but it was played in the rain & was a sloppy outing from both teams. I"m looking forward to this weekend & expect both teams to play a clean game Saturday. I also expect the Cats to win. Just not sure which Cats.

 

[CatGrad-UMGradStu]

The OP wanted to discuss the NDSU offense. The same limp dicks who derail every fukking thread turned it into a pissing contest, dick measuring contest or whatever you want to call it between U of M and MSU woulda, coulda, shoulda,, if then, if maybe bullshit.

Who gives a fukk what might have happened? The scoreboard is the only fukking statistic that matters. Fucking Bobcat fans actually think a kid who started two years was a better quarterback even though he had an 11-10 record as a starter than the kid they have playing now...

And to think I wasted all those years coaching...

 

[uofmman1122]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy f###[#] up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

Hmm, likely because Griz fans are fixated on the 4 plays, & MSU gave up 14 points vs the 8 Weber gave up. Outside of 2 Weber drives, MSU dominated the game, (Weber rushed for 181 & 14/30 passing for 151 Cats rushed for 347, 15/23 for 140) but it was played in the rain & was a sloppy outing from both teams. I"m looking forward to this weekend & expect both teams to play a clean game Saturday. I also expect the Cats to win. Just not sure which Cats.

Those 8 points were absolutely nothing like the 14 special teams points MSU gave up, though! They're fixating on them because they were an insanely anomalous, record-setting sequence of mistakes that MSU had no part in causing!

I'm not going to say you guys lose if those don't happen. I think you probably do, but the game could go completely different. Lots of teams dominate the stat sheet and still lose. It happens a lot. I just do not understand why so many cat fans across the fandom insist that the 2 special teams touchdowns are in any way similar to the 4 safeties. They just aren't, and when you insist they are, people are going to call you out and make a bigger deal about it. Sometimes it's okay to just admit your team got really lucky.

As for this week, I expect the cats to win because I think they are playing better now than they were when they first played Weber, but this thread isn't about the cats or Weber, so I'll just leave it there. :lol:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy f###[#] up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

Hmm, likely because Griz fans are fixated on the 4 plays, & MSU gave up 14 points vs the 8 Weber gave up. Outside of 2 Weber drives, MSU dominated the game, (Weber rushed for 181 & 14/30 passing for 151 Cats rushed for 347, 15/23 for 140) but it was played in the rain & was a sloppy outing from both teams. I"m looking forward to this weekend & expect both teams to play a clean game Saturday. I also expect the Cats to win. Just not sure which Cats.

Meh, bobs lose without the errant snaps. Indisputable. Math. The game will depend on whether Tommie Touchdown gives them a contest.

 

[poorgriz]

MSU rushed for 6.8 ypc on 62 attempts against Griz. Ouch. UM cannot run the damn ball, & NDSU is stout against the run. NDSU will pin their ears back & we’ll see the exploding cauliflower from their nostrils just before they eat your qb’s & spit out bear bones. Wish it were different, Im tired of those obnoxiously spoiled-ass dbags.

So the scats had one good game against their rivals, and they're f###[#] world-beaters now. You guys barely beat NAU, EWU, and needed dropped passes and four bad snaps that led to 8 points to win AT HOME by 5 points. GTFO with this shit.

if you actually pay attention to anyone outside of the scats, you'd see NDSU is having their worst defensive year in forever. Susceptible against the run giving up almost 150 yds (I can't remember the last time they gave up that much), and their d-backs aren't great, especially after a starter entered the portal. People who know the program at NDSU think this is the year they could be upset early in the playoffs....but by all means, continue using your one good game you played this year to demoralize the Griz, going forward that arrogance should play out well against Weber or your next opponent going forward if you win.

I talked to quite a few NDSU fans in Frisco last year. Consistent message was that this NDSU dynasty has totally lost its luster during the regular season games. Attendance is down, excitement is down, team performance is down, because there really isn't much question they'll win most of their games and run through the playoffs and end up in Frisco again. It's not right, it's certainly not what the coaches preach, but it is what it is. Make no mistake, once the playoffs start - they'll dial in and do what they need to do to get back to Frisco, and likely..... win it all again. You'l;l see the dynasty on Saturday. That's what they do. I hate typing all this because it sucks, but it's reality.

 

[indian-outlaw]

So the scats had one good game against their rivals, and they're f###[#] world-beaters now. You guys barely beat NAU, EWU, and needed dropped passes and four bad snaps that led to 8 points to win AT HOME by 5 points. GTFO with this shit.

if you actually pay attention to anyone outside of the scats, you'd see NDSU is having their worst defensive year in forever. Susceptible against the run giving up almost 150 yds (I can't remember the last time they gave up that much), and their d-backs aren't great, especially after a starter entered the portal. People who know the program at NDSU think this is the year they could be upset early in the playoffs....but by all means, continue using your one good game you played this year to demoralize the Griz, going forward that arrogance should play out well against Weber or your next opponent going forward if you win.

I talked to quite a few NDSU fans in Frisco last year. Consistent message was that this NDSU dynasty has totally lost its luster during the regular season games. Attendance is down, excitement is down, team performance is down, because there really isn't much question they'll win most of their games and run through the playoffs and end up in Frisco again. It's not right, it's certainly not what the coaches preach, but it is what it is. Make no mistake, once the playoffs start - they'll dial in and do what they need to do to get back to Frisco, and likely..... win it all again. You'l;l see the dynasty on Saturday. That's what they do. I hate typing all this because it sucks, but it's reality.

Not this year. If not the griz then someone will beat them this year. Entz is not that smart and there is some turmoil going on inside that team. They are going down.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy fucked up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

Objectively? Because they’re both similarly rare. And to have TWO returns in the same game is even more rare. Probably not more rare than 4 safeties but still incredibly rare.

 

[uofmman1122]

Why do you cat fans keep equating 4 plays where one guy f###[#] up so badly it nullified everything else happening on the field with 2 plays that required an entire unit of 11 players making plays in order to score? These are objectively not even close to the same thing, so saying the cats "gave" them to Weber is as insane as saying the Wildcats "gave" MSU all of their rushing TDs, and I'm even willing to admit the safeties have no bearing on what will happen this weekend and are probably being made into a bigger deal than they should be.

Objectively? Because they’re both similarly rare. And to have TWO returns in the same game is even more rare. Probably not more rare than 4 safeties but still incredibly rare.

A kickoff return and punt return in the same game is less rare than 2 safeties in one game, let alone 4, but it still has nothing to do with my point.

MSU did literally nothing to gain those safeties. Weber had to execute those returns.

 

[poorgriz]

I talked to quite a few NDSU fans in Frisco last year. Consistent message was that this NDSU dynasty has totally lost its luster during the regular season games. Attendance is down, excitement is down, team performance is down, because there really isn't much question they'll win most of their games and run through the playoffs and end up in Frisco again. It's not right, it's certainly not what the coaches preach, but it is what it is. Make no mistake, once the playoffs start - they'll dial in and do what they need to do to get back to Frisco, and likely..... win it all again. You'l;l see the dynasty on Saturday. That's what they do. I hate typing all this because it sucks, but it's reality.

Not this year. If not the griz then someone will beat them this year. Entz is not that smart and there is some turmoil going on inside that team. They are going down.

I really hope so, we'll see. I think you started to see them wake up in their last game and do what they're going to do. Dominate everyone on both lines and take over the game. They're basically a mid to high level FBS team. They do it every... single... year. Best of luck to the griz. I'm really hoping for Cat/griz II in Frisco.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Objectively? Because they’re both similarly rare. And to have TWO returns in the same game is even more rare. Probably not more rare than 4 safeties but still incredibly rare.

A kickoff return and punt return in the same game is less rare than 2 safeties in one game, let alone 4, but it still has nothing to do with my point.

MSU did literally nothing to gain those safeties. Weber had to execute those returns.

True…I was comparing only from the standpoint of rarity. It was a very very strange game all the way around, one that surely won’t be repeated anytime soon.

 

[kemajic]

Objectively? Because they’re both similarly rare. And to have TWO returns in the same game is even more rare. Probably not more rare than 4 safeties but still incredibly rare.

A kickoff return and punt return in the same game is less rare than 2 safeties in one game, let alone 4, but it still has nothing to do with my point.

MSU did literally nothing to gain those safeties. Weber had to execute those returns.

They did put Weber into the punting situations.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

A kickoff return and punt return in the same game is less rare than 2 safeties in one game, let alone 4, but it still has nothing to do with my point.

MSU did literally nothing to gain those safeties. Weber had to execute those returns.

They did put Weber into the punting situations.

Did Weber punt it?

 

[#15 Fan]

So the scats had one good game against their rivals, and they're f###[#] world-beaters now. You guys barely beat NAU, EWU, and needed dropped passes and four bad snaps that led to 8 points to win AT HOME by 5 points. GTFO with this shit.

if you actually pay attention to anyone outside of the scats, you'd see NDSU is having their worst defensive year in forever. Susceptible against the run giving up almost 150 yds (I can't remember the last time they gave up that much), and their d-backs aren't great, especially after a starter entered the portal. People who know the program at NDSU think this is the year they could be upset early in the playoffs....but by all means, continue using your one good game you played this year to demoralize the Griz, going forward that arrogance should play out well against Weber or your next opponent going forward if you win.

I talked to quite a few NDSU fans in Frisco last year. Consistent message was that this NDSU dynasty has totally lost its luster during the regular season games. Attendance is down, excitement is down, team performance is down, because there really isn't much question they'll win most of their games and run through the playoffs and end up in Frisco again. It's not right, it's certainly not what the coaches preach, but it is what it is. Make no mistake, once the playoffs start - they'll dial in and do what they need to do to get back to Frisco, and likely..... win it all again. You'l;l see the dynasty on Saturday. That's what they do. I hate typing all this because it sucks, but it's reality.

100% agree they are a dynasty, but as my 14 yo says, they're "down bad" this year. Field performance, clear internal issues, etc. It would suck to just dominate year after year with little to no competition, so I get all of that. My point is some of the scat fans (not you, I enjoy your postings and content) who seem to think they're the best team outside of NDSU and keep saying Griz are going to get rolled in fargo cuz of ONE game....a rivalry game with Gameday pageantry and all. I think the Griz would've been a 2-TD favorite and still lost that game, I have never seen so much energy in the scats in my life against the Griz, not even in 2019. I know Griz fans like to point it out, but we lost by 3 to Weber with a shit QB and a whopping 114 yds of offense, and should've beat suck state (I know I know, coulda shoulda woulda)...but at the end of the day, we've shown more fight on the road against top 5 teams than just about anyone. This game will be a lot closer than people think, and nothing would make most of the FCS world happier than us upsetting NDSU

 

[indiancoyote]

I talked to quite a few NDSU fans in Frisco last year. Consistent message was that this NDSU dynasty has totally lost its luster during the regular season games. Attendance is down, excitement is down, team performance is down, because there really isn't much question they'll win most of their games and run through the playoffs and end up in Frisco again. It's not right, it's certainly not what the coaches preach, but it is what it is. Make no mistake, once the playoffs start - they'll dial in and do what they need to do to get back to Frisco, and likely..... win it all again. You'l;l see the dynasty on Saturday. That's what they do. I hate typing all this because it sucks, but it's reality.

100% agree they are a dynasty, but as my 14 yo says, they're "down bad" this year. Field performance, clear internal issues, etc. It would suck to just dominate year after year with little to no competition, so I get all of that. My point is some of the scat fans (not you, I enjoy your postings and content) who seem to think they're the best team outside of NDSU and keep saying Griz are going to get rolled in fargo cuz of ONE game....a rivalry game with Gameday pageantry and all. I think the Griz would've been a 2-TD favorite and still lost that game, I have never seen so much energy in the scats in my life against the Griz, not even in 2019. I know Griz fans like to point it out, but we lost by 3 to Weber with a shit QB and a whopping 114 yds of offense, and should've beat suck state (I know I know, coulda shoulda woulda)...but at the end of the day, we've shown more fight on the road against top 5 teams than just about anyone. This game will be a lot closer than people think, and nothing would make most of the FCS world happier than us upsetting NDSU

The game at Weber wasn't that close and both of those games highlighted the dysfunction of our coaching staff.