NDSU Game Before UM

[CDAGRIZ]

Here is a novel idea. Why don't all the North Dakota boys and NDSU trolls just go to one of your own damn boards and have your own damn pi**ing contest on your own damn forums? :thumb:

Novel? Not novel, but insanely correct.

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=66288&start=25#p964870

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=66288&start=25#p964916

 

[ordigger]

Here is a novel idea. Why don't all the North Dakota boys and NDSU trolls just go to one of your own damn boards and have your own damn pi**ing contest on your own damn forums? :thumb:

Because they got a kicker on scholarship.

 

[Old Shep]

Just one question , frozenorth, who would you rather have running the show during an economic boom ? Repulicans or that other party ?

So true, and anyone that disagrees is sitting in western Montana disagreeing on their computer because they are not out making money because there are no good paying jobs. So best to point the finger at success than admit you have a problem.

North Dakota is open for business

Sidney could have been the new Williston. Williston is going to be 100,000 people and Sidney will be at 20,000. The difference: Montana's openness for business. Everybody chooses North Dakota over for Montana, because there too many barriers in MT. Hell, Dickinson is going to be a metropolis because of it.

Put down the crack pipe. Openness for business is a trite canard. Geography is what matters, and the Bakken is centered in ND. It's not like Bismarck has a clue what they are doing, calling their policies incoherent would be an understatement. The state is run by borish ideologues who dumb lucked into an oil boom. Policy has nothing to do with this.

We'll take dumb luck any day. How do you think we beat the gwiz in 2003. :clap:

 

[UNDfan]

The best economy in the nation??? All of NDs schools are going to be state of the art, same as its infrastructure. Its gonna be a great state to live in for those who can tough out the mind numbing winters..haha...I'll always love Montana more than any state, but as far as business and economics goes...ND has its shit together...Montana does not...to many libtards :?

So true, and anyone that disagrees is sitting in western Montana disagreeing on their computer because they are not out making money because there are no good paying jobs. So best to point the finger at success than admit you have a problem.

North Dakota is open for business

Sidney could have been the new Williston. Williston is going to be 100,000 people and Sidney will be at 20,000. The difference: Montana's openness for business. Everybody chooses North Dakota over for Montana, because there too many barriers in MT. Hell, Dickinson is going to be a metropolis because of it.

Put down the crack pipe. Openness for business is a trite canard. Geography is what matters, and the Bakken is centered in ND. It's not like Bismarck has a clue what they are doing, calling their policies incoherent would be an understatement. The state is run by borish ideologues who dumb lucked into an oil boom. Policy has nothing to do with this.

Montana is where fracking started: near Sidney. EOG later tried it near Parshall, ND, where it was also successful. It rapidly spread and now the range of Bakken and Three Forks that is productive and cost effective is known. The Tyler and Red River formations are just in exploratory discovery and can reach much further south and west.

Watford City is the center of the Bakken, not Williston. Montana's attitude toward drilling in the eastern part of the state did not earn it accolades as being a business friendly state. Even an idiot like you would have to agree with that statement.

 

[UNDfan]

NDSU offered UND a home and home 4 year agreement back in 2003 but your AD refused to play and publically critized NDSU for moving to DI. Then a few years later NDSU offered a home and home agreement every other year and your AD refused again because he wanted it to be played every year. Now NDSU has offered a single game in Fargo in 2015 and your AD refuses again. The Weber State game worked perfectly because of the 12 game season next year and NDSU still gets 6 home games plus a FBS game. As far as Montana goes, who doesn't want to play the Griz with a home and home agreement. Those will be some of the most highly anticipated games in all of FCS and will likely come with good tv exposure for both schools.

That offer was the biggest joke ever. You wanted opponents to schedule in your transition, so you offered that for four years and four years only. At the time, the games would have counted against us because DII didn't recognize IAA games. DII would have punished us for playoff qualification. Now they don't. As soon as you were done with the transition, Taylor had every intent to dump us. You had 63 schollie vs 36 so you were damn and determined to beat us by hook and crook.

UND had an informal offer from the Big Sky for some time and was patient as Fullerton wanted. NDSU tried to force its way in, and barely had any conference that wanted it. Many Big Sky schools are leery of NDSU's admin, as they should be.

this is a lie. After NDSU was held out of the playoffs for beating Montana, the rule was changed for the next season, and Roger Thomas was well aware. Furthermore, Roger Thomas didn't just drop football, he dropped all sports simultaneously and the last minute after sitting on contracts for months promising to sign them while secretly negotiating alternate opponents. And then you are bold enough to accuse NDSU of trying to hard UND, ridiculous.

If the rivalry is so precious to you, then why does it matter that that it was only for 4 years? You can't even provide evidence that GT planned to drop the series after, or why that matters?

The rule wasn't changed for some time until the beginning of the next season. And you can't provide evidence that GT was going to extend it beyond four years and then drop it.

 

[Old Shep]

NDSU offered UND a home and home 4 year agreement back in 2003 but your AD refused to play and publically critized NDSU for moving to DI. Then a few years later NDSU offered a home and home agreement every other year and your AD refused again because he wanted it to be played every year. Now NDSU has offered a single game in Fargo in 2015 and your AD refuses again. The Weber State game worked perfectly because of the 12 game season next year and NDSU still gets 6 home games plus a FBS game. As far as Montana goes, who doesn't want to play the Griz with a home and home agreement. Those will be some of the most highly anticipated games in all of FCS and will likely come with good tv exposure for both schools.

That offer was the biggest joke ever. You wanted opponents to schedule in your transition, so you offered that for four years and four years only. At the time, the games would have counted against us because DII didn't recognize IAA games. DII would have punished us for playoff qualification. Now they don't. As soon as you were done with the transition, Taylor had every intent to dump us. You had 63 schollie vs 36 so you were damn and determined to beat us by hook and crook.

UND had an informal offer from the Big Sky for some time and was patient as Fullerton wanted. NDSU tried to force its way in, and barely had any conference that wanted it. Many Big Sky schools are leery of NDSU's admin, as they should be.

this is a lie. After NDSU was held out of the playoffs for beating Montana, the rule was changed for the next season, and Roger Thomas was well aware. Furthermore, Roger Thomas didn't just drop football, he dropped all sports simultaneously and the last minute after sitting on contracts for months promising to sign them while secretly negotiating alternate opponents. And then you are bold enough to accuse NDSU of trying to hard UND, ridiculous.

If the rivalry is so precious to you, then why does it matter that that it was only for 4 years? You can't even provide evidence that GT planned to drop the series after, or why that matters?

The rule wasn't changed for some time until the beginning of the next season. And you can't provide evidence that GT was going to extend it beyond four years and then drop it.

Let's face it Roger Thomas(former UND AD) and Bob Entzion(former NDSU Ad)were both opposed to D-1 athletics. I suppose you can't blame them because that's all either one of them knew. Gene Taylor and Brian Faison in large part are dealing with someone else's mess. I say let's both beat the gwiz!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

That offer was the biggest joke ever. You wanted opponents to schedule in your transition, so you offered that for four years and four years only. At the time, the games would have counted against us because DII didn't recognize IAA games. DII would have punished us for playoff qualification. Now they don't. As soon as you were done with the transition, Taylor had every intent to dump us. You had 63 schollie vs 36 so you were damn and determined to beat us by hook and crook.

UND had an informal offer from the Big Sky for some time and was patient as Fullerton wanted. NDSU tried to force its way in, and barely had any conference that wanted it. Many Big Sky schools are leery of NDSU's admin, as they should be.

this is a lie. After NDSU was held out of the playoffs for beating Montana, the rule was changed for the next season, and Roger Thomas was well aware. Furthermore, Roger Thomas didn't just drop football, he dropped all sports simultaneously and the last minute after sitting on contracts for months promising to sign them while secretly negotiating alternate opponents. And then you are bold enough to accuse NDSU of trying to hard UND, ridiculous.

If the rivalry is so precious to you, then why does it matter that that it was only for 4 years? You can't even provide evidence that GT planned to drop the series after, or why that matters?

The rule wasn't changed for some time until the beginning of the next season. And you can't provide evidence that GT was going to extend it beyond four years and then drop it.

Let's face it Roger Thomas(former UND AD) and Bob Entzion(former NDSU Ad)were both opposed to D-1 athletics. I suppose you can't blame them because that's all either one of them knew. Gene Taylor and Brian Faison in large part are dealing with someone else's mess. I say let's both beat the gwiz!

I don't want to face it, but you sure hit the nail on the head, Shep. I played jai alai with Roger on the weekends during the 90s, and he was always talking about how he was opposed to DI athletics. Bob was AD/provost/superintendent, if I recall correctly, and he definitely hated the idea of DI athletics because he thought it would be too tough on the grass. We played in the same darts league on Thursdays, and he always looked like he was about to molest a collie. He ended up leaving because he was kind of embarrassed to associate with a shit hole school in a shit hole town in a shit hole state. Odd guy.

 

[frozenorth]

The rule wasn't changed for some time until the beginning of the next season. And you can't provide evidence that GT was going to extend it beyond four years and then drop it.

the great thing is that I don't have to because it doesn't matter. Also you can't provide evidence that he would.

Your entire argument is that UND had to end the series because NDSU might in the future. You can't blame NDSU for your own pointless paranoia.

RT was president (i think?) of the playoff committee, he had the information.

Montana is where fracking started: near Sidney. EOG later tried it near Parshall, ND, where it was also successful. It rapidly spread and now the range of Bakken and Three Forks that is productive and cost effective is known. The Tyler and Red River formations are just in exploratory discovery and can reach much further south and west.

Watford City is the center of the Bakken, not Williston. Montana's attitude toward drilling in the eastern part of the state did not earn it accolades as being a business friendly state. Even an idiot like you would have to agree with that statement.

All the friendly business climate in the world isn't going to metastasize more oil under Montana.

Watford city is only 40 miles from Williston and had a disadvantage in existing infrastructure and transportation access. Still, it's position has allowed Watford city to boom, quadrupling in 4 years. Sindey is even more isolated than Watford City and by your own admission is not the center of the Bakken. What kind of structural advantage was a 'better regulatory climate' supposed to give Sindey that would compensate for it's poor geography, infrastructure, and distance from primary drilling areas?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

the great thing is that I don't have to because it doesn't matter. Also you can't provide evidence that he would.

Your entire argument is that UND had to end the series because NDSU might in the future. You can't blame NDSU for your own pointless paranoia.

RT was president (i think?) of the playoff committee, he had the information.

All the friendly business climate in the world isn't going to metastasize more oil under Montana.

Watford city is only 40 miles from Williston and had a disadvantage in existing infrastructure and transportation access. Still, it's position has allowed Watford city to boom, quadrupling in 4 years. Sindey is even more isolated than Watford City and by your own admission is not the center of the Bakken. What kind of structural advantage was a 'better regulatory climate' supposed to give Sindey that would compensate for it's poor geography, infrastructure, and distance from primary drilling areas?

What in the blue fuck is this guy talking about?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Here is a novel idea. Why don't all the North Dakota boys and NDSU trolls just go to one of your own damn boards and have your own damn pi**ing contest on your own damn forums? :thumb:

Because they got a kicker on scholarship.

"multiple" kickers. :lol: :lol:

 

[Old Shep]

this is a lie. After NDSU was held out of the playoffs for beating Montana, the rule was changed for the next season, and Roger Thomas was well aware. Furthermore, Roger Thomas didn't just drop football, he dropped all sports simultaneously and the last minute after sitting on contracts for months promising to sign them while secretly negotiating alternate opponents. And then you are bold enough to accuse NDSU of trying to hard UND, ridiculous.

If the rivalry is so precious to you, then why does it matter that that it was only for 4 years? You can't even provide evidence that GT planned to drop the series after, or why that matters?

The rule wasn't changed for some time until the beginning of the next season. And you can't provide evidence that GT was going to extend it beyond four years and then drop it.

Let's face it Roger Thomas(former UND AD) and Bob Entzion(former NDSU Ad)were both opposed to D-1 athletics. I suppose you can't blame them because that's all either one of them knew. Gene Taylor and Brian Faison in large part are dealing with someone else's mess. I say let's both beat the gwiz!

I don't want to face it, but you sure hit the nail on the head, Shep. I played jai alai with Roger on the weekends during the 90s, and he was always talking about how he was opposed to DI athletics. Bob was AD/provost/superintendent, if I recall correctly, and he definitely hated the idea of DI athletics because he thought it would be too tough on the grass. We played in the same darts league on Thursdays, and he always looked like he was about to molest a collie. He ended up leaving because he was kind of embarrassed to associate with a shit hole school in a shit hole town in a shit hole state. Odd guy.

Roger Thomas found a home in Bismarck as AD at the D-2 University of Mary. That job was a perfect fit for him. The irony is that now UND has moved on to D-1 and he is being inducted into the UND athletic Hall of Fame this fall. He is a good guy just wrong for any school with D-1 aspirations.

Bob Entzion didn't leave NDSU on his own. Let's put it this way, he was asked to leave. The embarrassment was NDSU's institutionally because of what happened to Bob personally.
Bob was out of his league and his personal demons didn't help. The urban legend was that he was planted in NDSU by Minnesota and the Big Ten to keep the Dakota Universities from getting to big for their britches. He was from Minnesota, left his tracks at USD, UND, and NDSU so who knows.

 

[UNDfan]

Roger Thomas didn't have a firm grasp of financials but was a people person. Roger didn't have the capability to take UND to DI.

Bob Entzion has a fascination with the male anatomy, which Omaha police discovered in a park. He is now a very successful business man, starting Duluth Trading which has gone national selling skivvies and trousers to men.

 

[RayWill]

Roger Thomas didn't have a firm grasp of financials but was a people person. Roger didn't have the capability to take UND to DI.

Bob Entzion has a fascination with the male anatomy, which Omaha police discovered in a park. He is now a very successful business man, starting Duluth Trading which has gone national selling skivvies and trousers to men.

GO AWAY!