NCAA Should Issue Formal Apology to UM, for bad refs

[GrizBacker04]

That is the problem with not having replay during the regular season and then having it available during the playoffs. Either have it for the entire season or not at all.

However, officials didn't give up 35 first-half points and 42 in the game. Also, even if you give the Griz a TD there, it is only 42-28 and there is no guarantee the rest of the game plays out as it did. Perhaps CCU is a bit more aggressive the rest of the second half.

Nobody says the refs gave up 35/42 points; can you not just stick to what is being discussed. It is absolutely clear that a stupid ref mistake cost UM 7 points at a critical time. It's not that it was a judgment call or a call made in real time. They had 5 minutes to get it right; they discussed it amongst themselves. And spare us any argument that UM wouldn't have scored from the 2 with 4 downs. UM had CC on its heals. Just had ripped off long yardage on 2 passes. UM had the momentum.

Fair enough. If indeed the replay official buzzed down before the ball was snapped, and one of the officials felt their pager buzz, then one could argue (poorly) that the ensuing play was an illegal one. Also, the equipment might not have been working properly due to the cold. I also think, again, that this is a byproduct of not using replay during the regular season and then using it in the playoffs. The official may have been waiting for the head referee to blow the play dead instead of doing so himself, as the crew is not used to working with replay. I agree that the sequence was botched and that the review should not have been allowed to happen and that it should have been Grizzly ball at the two. But really, what is an apology going to do? Nothing. Think it is a rather petty to ask for one.

 

[Eriul]

Interesting because I actually hung out with a defensive starter yesterday and he actually mimicked my thoughts not yours. And he's actually "kinda a big deal" not someone who just says they are.

Exactly. If their mindset is to whine about a few bad calls rather than make the plays when the opportunity arises, then that is a good insight as to why the Griz lost. Hopefully they turn that attitude around, and in the future take advantage of the opportunities that they do get.

Jesus no one is whining. Seriously get your head out your ass. As I've stated a million times... I'm not saying we would have won!!!!!!!! If I want on my phone I would bold that and make it huge and underline it. I however am claiming, as was the player in question that the refs had an impact on the game in crucial moments that have proven to be wrong. Yes it did happen in our favor too but it happened more often in their favor. The refs played a factor. If the refs did their job right this is a whole different game. If every call was correct this game doesn't even semi resemble the game we saw. That's why me, most the people on here, and this player were bitching.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

The point is the game was not decided by refs. You can complain and call something on every play. But this idea of formal apologies, and crap is ridiculous. The Griz lost the game, correction, Coastal Carolina won the game. Plain and simple.

Ignoring logic got it. Close game that had more questionable calls go in their favor in extremely crucial moments. Sorry if you don't think those didn't have an effect but you're flat out wrong. Im not saying we would have won but if you don't think the refs severely skewed the outcome in ccu a favor you're delusional.

Logic is saying you get yours and they dont get theirs? I cant believe you actually think the Griz should have won the game, and the refs SEVERELY skewed the game.

Take your TD (which nobody scored but I will give you the benefit of the doubt) for the screwed up play, and CCU will take the TD away from the griz because of the screwed up reversal on 4th and 9 that led to a score 4 plays later. At least there was actually a score that occurred on that drive, which should have been a turn over on downs.

I suppose that doesn't work for you, because it isn't in your favor. Now the Griz lose by 14. Wait the offside on the interception. We will assume you march down the field and score so now you still lose by 7.

So do you think at 35-14 and the screw up on the in-completed pass that led to the score that brought it to 35-21 didn't change the game? Now you are really delusional. Huge momentum swing. The CCU defense just stopped you on 4th and 9, the offense is hot, and pumped. It is more likely it is a 14 point swing as they go down and score making it 42-14.

 

[Sportin' Life]

Interesting because I actually hung out with a defensive starter yesterday and he actually mimicked my thoughts not yours. And he's actually "kinda a big deal" not someone who just says they are.

Exactly. If their mindset is to whine about a few bad calls rather than make the plays when the opportunity arises, then that is a good insight as to why the Griz lost. Hopefully they turn that attitude around, and in the future take advantage of the opportunities that they do get.

Jesus no one is whining. Seriously get your head out your ass. As I've stated a million times... I'm not saying we would have won!!!!!!!! If I want on my phone I would bold that and make it huge and underline it. I however am claiming, as was the player in question that the refs had an impact on the game in crucial moments that have proven to be wrong. Yes it did happen in our favor too but it happened more often in their favor. The refs played a factor. If the refs did their job right this is a whole different game. If every call was correct this game doesn't even semi resemble the game we saw. That's why me, most the people on here, and this player were bitching.

Dude, you kind of come off as whining. I have two five year-olds and so I consider myself a bit of an expert ... I am kind of a big deal in recognizing whining.

 

[stir22]

this thread exemplifies everything that is wrong about montana football.

 

[Eriul]

The point is the game was not decided by refs. You can complain and call something on every play. But this idea of formal apologies, and crap is ridiculous. The Griz lost the game, correction, Coastal Carolina won the game. Plain and simple.

Ignoring logic got it. Close game that had more questionable calls go in their favor in extremely crucial moments. Sorry if you don't think those didn't have an effect but you're flat out wrong. Im not saying we would have won but if you don't think the refs severely skewed the outcome in ccu a favor you're delusional.

Logic is saying you get yours and they dont get theirs? I cant believe you actually think the Griz should have won the game, and the refs SEVERELY skewed the game.

Take your TD (which nobody scored but I will give you the benefit of the doubt) for the screwed up play, and CCU will take the TD away from the griz because of the screwed up reversal on 4th and 9 that led to a score 4 plays later. At least there was actually a score that occurred on that drive, which should have been a turn over on downs.

I suppose that doesn't work for you, because it isn't in your favor. Now the Griz lose by 14. Wait the offside on the interception. We will assume you march down the field and score so now you still lose by 7.

So do you think at 35-14 and the screw up on the in-completed pass that led to the score that brought it to 35-21 didn't change the game? Now you are really delusional. Huge momentum swing. The CCU defense just stopped you on 4th and 9, the offense is hot, and pumped. It is more likely it is a 14 point swing as they go down and score making it 42-14.

Umm 1. I never said we won. I said the refs skewed the game. Dunno how you even close to argue that when there are 3 crucial calls they got wrong that you pointed out.


2. Your math is wrong if your scenarios were to happen, that they got the replay and interception called right, we would be +14 and if they turned the ball over on downs on the out of bounds that's -7 due to us scoring. That's 7 points in our favor. You can't factor momentum for them if you're not goin to do it for us after our missed tds due to ref errors.

You have so little reading comprehension I dunno why I'm even responding. You even pmed me an argument that I never made. Seriously read before you post. It makes you look dumb. Done responding to you

 

[Eriul]

Interesting because I actually hung out with a defensive starter yesterday and he actually mimicked my thoughts not yours. And he's actually "kinda a big deal" not someone who just says they are.

Exactly. If their mindset is to whine about a few bad calls rather than make the plays when the opportunity arises, then that is a good insight as to why the Griz lost. Hopefully they turn that attitude around, and in the future take advantage of the opportunities that they do get.

Jesus no one is whining. Seriously get your head out your ass. As I've stated a million times... I'm not saying we would have won!!!!!!!! If I want on my phone I would bold that and make it huge and underline it. I however am claiming, as was the player in question that the refs had an impact on the game in crucial moments that have proven to be wrong. Yes it did happen in our favor too but it happened more often in their favor. The refs played a factor. If the refs did their job right this is a whole different game. If every call was correct this game doesn't even semi resemble the game we saw. That's why me, most the people on here, and this player were bitching.

Dude, you kind of come off as whining. I have two five year-olds and so I consider myself a bit of an expert ... I am kind of a big deal in recognizing whining.

Maybe you should focus more on them then. I'm not interested in your old man "grow up and suck it up" attitude. I posted my argument and if your counter is "stop whining that's why you lost" then you need to go take a nap on your rocker or whatever old people do these days.

 

[Sportin' Life]

Maybe you should focus more on them then. I'm not interested in your old man "grow up and suck it up" attitude. I posted my argument and if your counter is "stop whining that's why you lost" then you need to go take a nap on your rocker or whatever old people do these days.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Your whining amuses me. Whining coming from my kids or the team doesn't amuse me so much. But by all means keep it up all off-season, and I'll check in periodically to see how long the tantrum lasts and what it accomplishes. :thumb:

 

[montana_jack]

Licking my own nuts would be as satisfying as an apology from the NCAA. Cool to say that it happened, but doesn't change the fact that nuts were in my mouth.

 

[TD]

The two supposedly bad calls are not even close to the same. The Henderson catch was based on opinion, always clouded by our bias. I thought it was good in spite of what the announcer said, but I am biased. I can see top refs disagreeing on the call. The other call was as bone-headed as I have ever seen in football. I kept thinking there must be something I don't know because any Middle School kid brought out of the stands at the last moment to ref would have known to say if no one called a time out, the play stands! It is so incomprehensible I am at a loss for words. What if CCU had intercepted the screen pass and ran it back for a TD? Then UM gets the ball back with a first down and the TD declared, I guess, a "non-play"? It's so stupid an error that, yes, some action NEEDS to be taken.

 

[Eriul]

Maybe you should focus more on them then. I'm not interested in your old man "grow up and suck it up" attitude. I posted my argument and if your counter is "stop whining that's why you lost" then you need to go take a nap on your rocker or whatever old people do these days.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Your whining amuses me. Whining coming from my kids or the team doesn't amuse me so much. But by all means keep it up all off-season, and I'll check in periodically to see how long the tantrum lasts and what it accomplishes. :thumb:

Didn't know people were only suppose to post to accomplish something. Cool story old man. Enjoy the prostate exam

 

[catsack]

The fourth down play was an immediate decision to replay it , also on that play you had two different refs making different calls on the field (one calling it complete , one calling it incomplete ) . The next play they had approximately 25 seconds to make a decision on wether to replay it with no officials disagreeing on the feild. So what took them so long to review this play? Then anywhere from 18 - 28 seconds should have been put back on the clock. Not only one screw up but three major screw ups on that series of plays , depending on how you look at it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

this thread exemplifies everything that is wrong about montana football.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That is the problem with not having replay during the regular season and then having it available during the playoffs. Either have it for the entire season or not at all.

However, officials didn't give up 35 first-half points and 42 in the game. Also, even if you give the Griz a TD there, it is only 42-28 and there is no guarantee the rest of the game plays out as it did. Perhaps CCU is a bit more aggressive the rest of the second half.

Nobody says the refs gave up 35/42 points; can you not just stick to what is being discussed. It is absolutely clear that a stupid ref mistake cost UM 7 points at a critical time. It's not that it was a judgment call or a call made in real time. They had 5 minutes to get it right; they discussed it amongst themselves. And spare us any argument that UM wouldn't have scored from the 2 with 4 downs. UM had CC on its heals. Just had ripped off long yardage on 2 passes. UM had the momentum.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You mean like they did against NAU? :roll:

 

[marceagfan5]

I'll admit I didn't see the game, but even if all these calls go the Griz way and not CCU's way, didn't CCU still end the game on the Griz 15 yard line? Wouldn't they most likely have scored to win the game anyways?

Not trying to cause an argument, just curious on the Griz thoughts...

 

[AZGrizFan]

I'll admit I didn't see the game, but even if all these calls go the Griz way and not CCU's way, didn't CCU still end the game on the Griz 15 yard line? Wouldn't they most likely have scored there to win the game anyways?

Not trying to cause an argument, just curious on the Griz thoughts...

Don't let facts get in the way of a good cry, marc. :lol: :lol: :lol: Eruil needs his good cry...and he's not done, apparently.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Interesting because I actually hung out with a defensive starter yesterday and he actually mimicked my thoughts not yours. And he's actually "kinda a big deal" not someone who just says they are.

Exactly. If their mindset is to whine about a few bad calls rather than make the plays when the opportunity arises, then that is a good insight as to why the Griz lost. Hopefully they turn that attitude around, and in the future take advantage of the opportunities that they do get.

Jesus no one is whining. Seriously get your head out your ass. As I've stated a million times... I'm not saying we would have won!!!!!!!! If I want on my phone I would bold that and make it huge and underline it. I however am claiming, as was the player in question that the refs had an impact on the game in crucial moments that have proven to be wrong. Yes it did happen in our favor too but it happened more often in their favor. The refs played a factor. If the refs did their job right this is a whole different game. If every call was correct this game doesn't even semi resemble the game we saw. That's why me, most the people on here, and this player were bitching.

Here this is after the 4th and 9 play for you on the Griz Thread

 

[Grizbacker1]

It was a bad call no doubt.

But you guys do realize that they did not take away a touchdown, right? Yes it was 1st and goal form the 2 or whatever, but didn't JJ fumble on the 3 yard line against NAU and NAU returned it for a TD?

Points were not guaranteed there. Likely, but not certain.

I do not care if the Griz ended up losing by 100 points...the refs changed the rules of the game and need to be reprimanded for doing so.

The didn't change the rules, they simply didn't follow the rules.

 

[Eriul]

I'll admit I didn't see the game, but even if all these calls go the Griz way and not CCU's way, didn't CCU still end the game on the Griz 15 yard line? Wouldn't they most likely have scored to win the game anyways?

Not trying to cause an argument, just curious on the Griz thoughts...

Umm well that drive started with an excessive celebration penalty on us that was less than 2 celebrations they had that weren't called and I believe they also advanced the ball on a fumble I heard? Not sure the ruling but I think someone said that was also a mistake. It's not necessarily one call. It's that the game was filled with a ton of bad calls that 100% changed the game. Would the outcome be different? I dunno and no one will know because the refs were a huge influence in this game.

 

[Eriul]

I'll admit I didn't see the game, but even if all these calls go the Griz way and not CCU's way, didn't CCU still end the game on the Griz 15 yard line? Wouldn't they most likely have scored there to win the game anyways?

Not trying to cause an argument, just curious on the Griz thoughts...

Don't let facts get in the way of a good cry, marc. :lol: :lol: :lol: Eruil needs his good cry...and he's not done, apparently.

Grow up seriously. Jesus and I thought I was the over emotional girl. Get some reading glasses gramps.