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NCAA gonna lose again

behappp

behappp

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I'm guessing that NCAA is going to lose this battle too.

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Wisconsin Football Player Sues NCAA to Play On Despite D-II Years

Ahead of next week’s 2025 NFL Draft entry deadline, University of Wisconsin redshirt senior cornerback Nyzier Fourqurean sued the NCAA on Wednesday in hopes of obtaining a court order to stop the association from enforcing its five-year rule for D-I football. It is the latest case where a...
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I actually think they may win this one. This isn’t like the JUCO case where you could argue that he lost a year by not playing in the NCAA. This guy played in the NCAA his entire collegiate career. IMO he has no ground to stand on.
 
Griz til I die said:
I actually think they may win this one. This isn’t like the JUCO case where you could argue that he lost a year by not playing in the NCAA. This guy played in the NCAA his entire collegiate career. IMO he has no ground to stand on.
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This is based on the current rules (5 to play 4) for the NCAA, but what is the rule based on? It also seems like he could challenge the entire idea of a redshirt, since he seems to also be contending that he should be able to use his redshirt because he only played 115 snaps the entire season, although I might be reading that wrong.

Bottom line, though, just like in a lot of the other cases the NCAA has lost, what's at stake is not whether he should be allowed based on the NCAA rules, but rather if the NCAA rules themselves violate antitrust (and they've lost pretty much every case in this vein so far).

I don't necessarily think getting rid of it would be a good thing, but I have not yet heard a legally compelling argument for why 5 to play 4, or any limit at all on playing time for that matter, should be legally binding for these student athletes. As long as they are enrolled full time and seeking a degree, I don't think there's a good legal reason to say they have to stop playing simply because it's the way it's always been.
 
Well, hasn't the NCAA acted like a monopoly for years?
What legitimate choices have young athletes had?
 
behappp said:
I'm guessing that NCAA is going to lose this battle too.

sports.yahoo.com

Wisconsin Football Player Sues NCAA to Play On Despite D-II Years

Ahead of next week’s 2025 NFL Draft entry deadline, University of Wisconsin redshirt senior cornerback Nyzier Fourqurean sued the NCAA on Wednesday in hopes of obtaining a court order to stop the association from enforcing its five-year rule for D-I football. It is the latest case where a...
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I posted this 3 days ago
 
Wolf777 said:
So on point, but still completely understated. At what point will schools just say screw it?
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At what point do they just drop the enrolled / seeking a degree requirement? What difference does it make - particularly when schools are simply paying them to play? They'll sign contracts.

Feels like there will be a collection of schools that simply become the NFL minor league.

If we are honest - that collection of schools might be 20-30 schools - perhaps less....

What happens to the rest?
 
SoldierGriz said:
At what point do they just drop the enrolled / seeking a degree requirement? What difference does it make - particularly when schools are simply paying them to play? They'll sign contracts.

Feels like there will be a collection of schools that simply become the NFL minor league.

If we are honest - that collection of schools might be 20-30 schools - perhaps less....

What happens to the rest?
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I agree but I think it will be more than 20-30 schools.
I think schools will license out their Name, Image and Likenesses to the new league(s). I'm not sure they will be controlled by NFL as MLB is.

By separating from the world of education they will forego Title IX restrictions. And NCAA restrictions, of course.

It'll be chaos for a while thats for sure. More chaos than what we have now
 
behappp said:
I agree but I think it will be more than 20-30 schools.
I think schools will license out their Name, Image and Likenesses to the new league(s). I'm not sure they will be controlled by NFL as MLB is.

By separating from the world of education they will forego Title IX restrictions. And NCAA restrictions, of course.

It'll be chaos for a while thats for sure. More chaos than what we have now
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I looked up athletic budgets (2023).

Ohio St at the top with 250 Mil.

Big drop by number 25 Wahington at 145 Mil.

Whatever happens it's gonna be an arms race...and I don't think there is any question that many schools will not survive.
 
behappp said:
I agree but I think it will be more than 20-30 schools.
I think schools will license out their Name, Image and Likenesses to the new league(s). I'm not sure they will be controlled by NFL as MLB is.

By separating from the world of education they will forego Title IX restrictions. And NCAA restrictions, of course.

It'll be chaos for a while thats for sure. More chaos than what we have now
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I had a conversation about this with a few athletic directors and several college Presidents a number of years ago. Jim O'Day was AD at time. Even then the view was that college athletics was going to resemble the baseball minor league model in the future. Stadiums owned by schools would either be leased to the clubs or sold outright to the clubs or the community. Like minor leagues there would be various levels with players on options to NFL teams and only limited times available in the "minors".
 
Amateurism is dead.

I think it is clear schools will absolutely have to opt-in to pay-for-play structures. If they don't - private equity will buy the teams. What does that even look like? Crazy times indeed.

Olympic sports are screwed - highly doubt private equity continues to subsidize them...
 
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