N. Harris Reason

[PlayerRep]

i'm not saying i believe this or not but i do have a question....

would you guys feel the same way about "kids being kids" if harris decided to be under the influence before a game? or is that off-limits but meet and greets with fans and children is no big deal?

Who excused this as being "kids will be kids"? I didn't notice that.

Are you seriously trying to equate drinking 9 days before the season with drinking the morning before a game?

 

[PlayerRep]

I doubt this is the case. It makes a good story but kid or not they are in college and should have a modicum of intelligence......

So not mentioning any names what Should the reaction be IF a player following all the off field problems and image issues (real or imagined) of the football team the last year showed up to the first public event of the year to meet the community's children drunk?

Did someone say he was "drunk"? 75, where are you? tnt is exaggerating and jumping to conclusions again.

 

[tnt]

I doubt this is the case. It makes a good story but kid or not they are in college and should have a modicum of intelligence......

So not mentioning any names what Should the reaction be IF a player following all the off field problems and image issues (real or imagined) of the football team the last year showed up to the first public event of the year to meet the community's children drunk?

Did someone say he was "drunk"? 75, where are you? tnt is exaggerating and jumping to conclusions again.

Careful PR are you saying there is a real situation as opposed to the hypothetical I asked about?? In all your legal wisdom you know .02 is legally impaired when under age right? Like I say its hard to believe any part of the rumor started here would be true.....

 

[griz4life]

If true, that's some very poor judgement on Harris' behalf. Sure, he's a teenager, which is why he shouldn't be drinking in the first place, but downing a few before showing up to a PR event for your team is reckless and shows complete disrespect for the program that's paying for your school and giving you an opportunity to be part of something great.
I don't believe in "just a kid" arguments. Even a "kid" knows you don't show up for work after you've been drinking and that's what being a Griz should be -- a job in a very competitive workplace. It's Harris' job to show up for any Griz function ready to work. If he worked for me, and was out representing my company after drinking, he'd be in the unemployment line now worried about how he was going to use anyone in my company as a reference.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

 

[WaGriz4life]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

 

['68griz]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

+1

 

[tnt]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

+1

IF that's what happened, losing the opening game start at home is pretty big. If he has enough of an a** left to sit it out I'd be amazed, I'm sure there is more than just the game. There also could be some university action including drinking class.

 

[UMcheer2000]

Drinking by itself, even if legal or underage, is one thing..

Drinking before attending the Great Griz Encounter as a representative of the team, university and Missoula--if the rumors are true.

Boneheaded!!

 

[ilovethecats]

i'm not saying i believe this or not but i do have a question....

would you guys feel the same way about "kids being kids" if harris decided to be under the influence before a game? or is that off-limits but meet and greets with fans and children is no big deal?

Who excused this as being "kids will be kids"? I didn't notice that.

Are you seriously trying to equate drinking 9 days before the season with drinking the morning before a game?

Maybe not word for word but someone did say to let's remember this is just a 19 year old kid. another poster said he remembered what it was like being 19....

and i don't disagree with them. i too was drinking at 19. i too did far worse things than that. so NO, i'm not "equating" anything. i simply asked a question. if this did indeed happen the way the op said, and some seem to be fairly ok with it given the circumstances, i asked if they would still be ok with it if the circumstances invoved an actual game.

how about this. what if this kid got hammered (and NO i'm not saying anyone said he was hammered last week) before visiting sick kids in the hospital. now, to not be confusing, i'm not equating a hospital to a football game. and let's say this drunken visit took place in may so roughly 100 days before the season. the kid is still 19. he's still a kid. we still remember everything about being 19. would you guys care or be disappointed. if so, i assume you would under any circumstances. if you answered no, would you still not care if everything i said happened the morning of a football game?

just questions......not equations....

 

[cclarkblues]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

+1

IF that's what happened, losing the opening game start at home is pretty big. If he has enough of an a** left to sit it out I'd be amazed, I'm sure there is more than just the game. There also could be some university action including drinking class.

They have a class now to learn how to drink? We had to learn it in the street.

 

[wbtfg]

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

+1

IF that's what happened, losing the opening game start at home is pretty big. If he has enough of an a** left to sit it out I'd be amazed, I'm sure there is more than just the game. There also could be some university action including drinking class.

They have a class now to learn how to drink?

Yep...you're BAC = GPA.

 

[Grisly Fan]

+1

IF that's what happened, losing the opening game start at home is pretty big. If he has enough of an a** left to sit it out I'd be amazed, I'm sure there is more than just the game. There also could be some university action including drinking class.

They have a class now to learn how to drink?

Yep...you're BAC = GPA.

When I saw the first post I thought it would be an easy A but I guess not. The homework it would take to survive a 4.0 BAC has to be brutal...

 

[PlayerRep]

i'm not saying i believe this or not but i do have a question....

would you guys feel the same way about "kids being kids" if harris decided to be under the influence before a game? or is that off-limits but meet and greets with fans and children is no big deal?

Who excused this as being "kids will be kids"? I didn't notice that.

Are you seriously trying to equate drinking 9 days before the season with drinking the morning before a game?

Maybe not word for word but someone did say to let's remember this is just a 19 year old kid. another poster said he remembered what it was like being 19....

and i don't disagree with them. i too was drinking at 19. i too did far worse things than that. so NO, i'm not "equating" anything. i simply asked a question. if this did indeed happen the way the op said, and some seem to be fairly ok with it given the circumstances, i asked if they would still be ok with it if the circumstances invoved an actual game.

how about this. what if this kid got hammered (and NO i'm not saying anyone said he was hammered last week) before visiting sick kids in the hospital. now, to not be confusing, i'm not equating a hospital to a football game. and let's say this drunken visit took place in may so roughly 100 days before the season. the kid is still 19. he's still a kid. we still remember everything about being 19. would you guys care or be disappointed. if so, i assume you would under any circumstances. if you answered no, would you still not care if everything i said happened the morning of a football game?

just questions......not equations....

Again, who was "okay" with this?

Really, your question is so dumb, that I can't imagine that anyone would answer it. How about this one? If a Bobcat punched someone in the nose in the summer and got into some trouble for it, do you think he should get into more or less trouble if he punched someone in the nose on a game day?

 

[wbtfg]

If a Bobcat punched someone in the nose in the summer and got into some trouble for it, do you think he should get into more or less trouble if he punched someone in the nose on a game day?

I think the legal system should be allowed to run its course before any decision is made.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

This could be the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps all UM football players have problems with substance abuse. Soon the Missoulian will be referring to it as the culture of substance abuse. Perhaps all football players have problems with substance abuse. The federal government may have to start a nationwide investigation, to determine whether to ban "substance", "abuse" or "football". The ncaa will announce an investigation that will last 6 months, and then be automatically nenewed each 6 months for another 6 months. Videos will be installed behind all bars to watch for public urination, which, if more than 1 person is caught, will then be known as the culture of public urination.

:lol: Thanks for the sarcasm and for bringing the voice of reason to the subject, in a time when it's easy to jump to hysterics whenever any level of adversity arises in Missoula.

 

[ilovethecats]

Really, your question is so dumb, that I can't imagine that anyone would answer it. How about this one? If a Bobcat punched someone in the nose in the summer and got into some trouble for it, do you think he should get into more or less trouble if he punched someone in the nose on a game day?

:lol:

i received a pm from a great poster that warned me not to go this route with you. but what can i say....i'm as dumb as my questions.

if a bobcat punched somone and got in trouble my issue would never, and has never been when the incident occured. however, if he punched someone in the nose while he was volunteering at my kids school i would be far more angry than if he punched someone in the locker room before a game.

the issue isn't the incident or the time it occured. the issue is the potential audience that it occured in front of. but you likely already knew that.....

:thumb:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Like I said in the other thread, kids will always think they are invincible and even though something bad happens to someone else, it still won't happen to them. Learn from someone else's mistake? Nah...the bad stuff happens to the other guy, but it won't happen to me. It's simply going to be that way from now until enternity. As adults, we see and know that consequenses of mistakes due to life experience of ourselves and others. Kid's brains just simply don't function at that same maturity level yet.

The important thing is that the adults involved in the situation made the right call and provided those repercussions. Now in Harris' mind maybe the switch has been made from "it will just happen to someone else" to "oh crap, it just happened to me". Hopefully at that point it becomes real and he can learn and apply the lesson directly. Isn't that what growing up is all about?

We ALL make dumb mistakes.

:clap:

 

[AllWeatherFan]

They have a class now to learn how to drink? We had to learn it in the street.

We had to learn it in our cars!

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Showing up under the influence at an event with kids is only worth a one-game suspension for an 18 year-old player? :shock:

I see nothing has really changed. Harris must be a good player, and not some scrub.

You are a joke. A one game suspension is more than enough punishment

+1

IF that's what happened, losing the opening game start at home is pretty big. If he has enough of an a** left to sit it out I'd be amazed, I'm sure there is more than just the game. There also could be some university action including drinking class.

If the guy was obviously under the influence at a public event, it's a big red flag. What kind of mind says 'hey, it's our big meet and greet with the fans, sounds like a great time to get buzzed!"?



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