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MVFC COVID vaccine rates are lagging

kemajic said:
GottaluvGriz said:
While it is true that tremendous progress has been made in the US on reducing new coronavirus cases and deaths, it certainly is not over. Cases jumped up 9% (new variant is growing) last week and deaths still hover around 500 per day. Of the deaths, Dr Fauci reports that 99% are among unvaccinated.
It is important that our teams and fans continue to increase vaccination rates before fall.
Go Griz!
Well let's take what Dr. Fauci says as gospel. He never lies or flip-flops. Does he mention that 99% of the deaths are from those already past the age of life expectancy?

The CDC also reports 99.5% of recent Covid deaths are among the unvaccinated in the US. The Maryland governor reports 100% of the Covid deaths in Maryland are among unvaccinated people in his state the month of June.
While Dr. Fauci has been the nations virus expert through several administrations, he is not all knowing. I’m not sure who else one would take advice from if not the CDC, Dr Fauci, local health departments, and health professionals etc. regarding Covid.
The data is certainly proving that the vaccine works and the more shots we can get into arms, the faster everything will return to normal.
Sure hope the Griz are among the most protected from the virus and that our upcoming season is relatively back to normal!
Go Griz!
 
SoldierGriz said:
kemajic said:
Well let's take what Dr. Fauci says as gospel. He never lies or flip-flops. Does he mention that 99% of the deaths are from those already past the age of life expectancy?

Anyone still listening to the unelected bearoucrat is simply not paying attention.

I haven't worn a mask for 2 months. There are zero businesses closed. Arenas are full for every event...this thing is over.

About 50% vaccinated...combined with those who have already had it, and we are at herd immunity.

Why would a student athlete who happens to get it be treated different than if he had the flu or strep throat?
The bout of covid I had was not half as bad as the strep throats I had as a youngster. I just had to find a mask as we're getting on a plane tomorrow. Wearing that sucker will be so special, breathing my own CO2 and all.
 
SoldierGriz said:
kemajic said:
Well let's take what Dr. Fauci says as gospel. He never lies or flip-flops. Does he mention that 99% of the deaths are from those already past the age of life expectancy?

Anyone still listening to the unelected bearoucrat is simply not paying attention.

I haven't worn a mask for 2 months. There are zero businesses closed. Arenas are full for every event...this thing is over.

About 50% vaccinated...combined with those who have already had it, and we are at herd immunity.

Why would a student athlete who happens to get it be treated different than if he had the flu or strep throat?

There are certainly areas of the country near herd immunity. There are others, however, no where approaching it. For example, some counties in Washington have over 70% vaccinated. Not the 80-90 we need, but closer when those with natural immunity are included. There are other counties, though, with vax rates below 25%. Those areas are still at significant risk.

Why should anyone care? Because the more people who get and transmit Covid, the greater the chance for new, more dangerous, more transmittable variants. Get one super bad variant, and no one is safe and we're back to square one.

Just get the damn vax, people.
 
EverettGriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Anyone still listening to the unelected bearoucrat is simply not paying attention.

I haven't worn a mask for 2 months. There are zero businesses closed. Arenas are full for every event...this thing is over.

About 50% vaccinated...combined with those who have already had it, and we are at herd immunity.

Why would a student athlete who happens to get it be treated different than if he had the flu or strep throat?

There are certainly areas of the country near herd immunity. There are others, however, no where approaching it. For example, some counties in Washington have over 70% vaccinated. Not the 80-90 we need, but closer when those with natural immunity are included. There are other counties, though, with vax rates below 25%. Those areas are still at significant risk.

Why should anyone care? Because the more people who get and transmit Covid, the greater the chance for new, more dangerous, more transmittable variants. Get one super bad variant, and no one is safe and we're back to square one.

Just get the damn vax, people.

Amen!
 
EverettGriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Anyone still listening to the unelected bearoucrat is simply not paying attention.

I haven't worn a mask for 2 months. There are zero businesses closed. Arenas are full for every event...this thing is over.

About 50% vaccinated...combined with those who have already had it, and we are at herd immunity.

Why would a student athlete who happens to get it be treated different than if he had the flu or strep throat?

There are certainly areas of the country near herd immunity. There are others, however, no where approaching it. For example, some counties in Washington have over 70% vaccinated. Not the 80-90 we need, but closer when those with natural immunity are included. There are other counties, though, with vax rates below 25%. Those areas are still at significant risk.

Why should anyone care? Because the more people who get and transmit Covid, the greater the chance for new, more dangerous, more transmittable variants. Get one super bad variant, and no one is safe and we're back to square one.

Just get the damn vax, people.
EG, does this factor in the people who had the virus? Or is that percentage only vax stats? If they incorporate people already inflicted with Corona, does that effect the herd immunity much?
 
Just as a reminder...Fauci during an interview:

"Late last week, Fauci told the New York Times that new science had changed his thinking on the herd immunity threshold -- but he also admitted that his statements were influenced in part by "his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks."

Specifically, the fraction of people who would need immunity to SARS-CoV-2 (either through vaccination or recovery from prior infection) to extinguish the spread of the virus was initially estimated to be 60% to 70%. In recent weeks, Fauci had raised the percentage: from 70% to 75%, and then to 75%, 80%, and 85%."

Dude is a fraud.
 
ilovethecats said:
Mousegriz said:
Where would be today if "the vaccinated" also blew off the recommendation to get vaccinated like the righteous mRNA vaccine experts? Very likely looking at significant disruptions to not only upcoming football seasons but everyday life. Kind of tired of the unvaccinated acting like the pandemic is "gone". While it's not "gone" our lives seem much more normal today than they were 5 months ago. Who deserves credit for this change...the vaccinated or unvaccinated? The answer seems pretty obvious.
What about people that had the virus but didn't get vaccinated. Are they undeserving of the same credit as the brave vaccinators?

Where would be today if there were no vaccines yet? I don't have the answer but think I've got few ideas and they wouldn't be what we want. But remember we live in a country where... "I'm right and I know I'm right and you're wrong, I know you're wrong and can't believe you don't now you're wrong!"
 
Mousegriz said:
ilovethecats said:
What about people that had the virus but didn't get vaccinated. Are they undeserving of the same credit as the brave vaccinators?

Where would be today if there were no vaccines yet? I don't have the answer but think I've got few ideas and they wouldn't be what we want. But remember we live in a country where... "I'm right and I know I'm right and you're wrong, I know you're wrong and can't believe you don't now you're wrong!"

That's all well and fine. I don't dispute it and we're sitting pretty good due to the vaccine I'm sure.

I'm just curious if all the vaccination stats I read include any of the millions of people who already had the virus.

People are so quick to yell at others about getting the vaccine, or acting like those that got vaccinated are some kind of heros, but no one seems to be talking about the millions that already have had the virus, despite those stats being shoved down our throats for over a year.

Just curious if all those people are already included when I hear all the talk about those brave souls who got vaccinated.
 
ilovethecats said:
EverettGriz said:
There are certainly areas of the country near herd immunity. There are others, however, no where approaching it. For example, some counties in Washington have over 70% vaccinated. Not the 80-90 we need, but closer when those with natural immunity are included. There are other counties, though, with vax rates below 25%. Those areas are still at significant risk.

Why should anyone care? Because the more people who get and transmit Covid, the greater the chance for new, more dangerous, more transmittable variants. Get one super bad variant, and no one is safe and we're back to square one.

Just get the damn vax, people.
EG, does this factor in the people who had the virus? Or is that percentage only vax stats? If they incorporate people already inflicted with Corona, does that effect the herd immunity much?

The percentage of those vaccinated does not. But you'll notice I reference those with natural immunity (those previously infected) edging us closer to the numbers needed in the highly vaccinated areas. But unless tens of thousands of people in the counties with 25% vax rates have had Covid, it won't make a speck of difference.
 
It would make sense that if you have not already had Covid and have not already had the Covid vaccination, to please be prudent and get vaccinated vs. taking a chance on not getting the vaccination , end up getting the virus and infecting others.
If you all want to get football back to normal, why would you disagree with increasing vaccination rates among the Big Sky teams, the fans that support them and the public at large?
Go Griz!
 
Griz til I die said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
Trust me, our team as sleuth immunity.
Please elaborate for us. Big break out last year, or very good vaccination rates?

Good to see you know what a "sleuth" is. But if you know the two ways to develop immunity, you know the answer to your question.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
Griz til I die said:
Please elaborate for us. Big break out last year, or very good vaccination rates?

Good to see you know what a "sleuth" is. But if you know the two ways to develop immunity, you know the answer to your question.
Seems like a really odd way to word that but more power to you! I’ll assume the Griz are in good shape since Haslam has been such a strong advocate for getting vaccinated (plus those who’ve had COVID) and that our season will go off without a hitch.
 
Griz til I die said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
Good to see you know what a "sleuth" is. But if you know the two ways to develop immunity, you know the answer to your question.
Seems like a really odd way to word that but more power to you! I’ll assume the Griz are in good shape since Haslam has been such a strong advocate for getting vaccinated (plus those who’ve had COVID) and that our season will go off without a hitch.

I can only presume that Hauck is pushing the players to get vaccinated as well, explaining that if they get sick, they'll hurt the team.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
.. A dude sitting in a log cabin in the mountains above Butte thinks he sounds cool and rebellious by saying "them gubment types ain't tellin' me what to put in my body!" Holy crap! You know my neighbor? But he matters so much less than he thinks he does. Nobody cares about him. When I start to care is when a refusal to get a shot could jeopardize a football season. Yes, that's very selfish of me. To adapt a phrase from our beloved Snap, "I would dredge my nuts in flour and teabag a deep fryer" if it guaranteed a normal FB season. Maybe that’s why my neighbor brings a prosthetic nut sac everywhere
 
EverettGriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Anyone still listening to the unelected bearoucrat is simply not paying attention.

I haven't worn a mask for 2 months. There are zero businesses closed. Arenas are full for every event...this thing is over.

About 50% vaccinated...combined with those who have already had it, and we are at herd immunity.

Why would a student athlete who happens to get it be treated different than if he had the flu or strep throat?

There are certainly areas of the country near herd immunity. There are others, however, no where approaching it. For example, some counties in Washington have over 70% vaccinated. Not the 80-90 we need, but closer when those with natural immunity are included. There are other counties, though, with vax rates below 25%. Those areas are still at significant risk.

Why should anyone care? Because the more people who get and transmit Covid, the greater the chance for new, more dangerous, more transmittable variants. Get one super bad variant, and no one is safe and we're back to square one.

Just get the damn vax, people.

Even though there have been over 330 million vaccines (safely) given in the US, I’ll be shocked if we ever get above 75% vaccinated (12 and up).

There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 25%-30% of the American population that are just conspiratorial nutters.

As evidenced by:

9/11 conspiracists that believe the attack was perpetrated by the government of US or Israel.

QAnon conspiracists that believe a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles control the government while running a secret child sex-trafficking ring.

Over 30% of Americans don’t believe in evolution.

30% Of Americans don’t believe man-made global climate change.

FFS, 13% of Americans believe that vampires roam the earth.

When you add up the tails of the bell curve in a country as populous as ours, you are left with a lot of crazy MFs.
 
kemajic said:
GottaluvGriz said:
While it is true that tremendous progress has been made in the US on reducing new coronavirus cases and deaths, it certainly is not over. Cases jumped up 9% (new variant is growing) last week and deaths still hover around 500 per day. Of the deaths, Dr Fauci reports that 99% are among unvaccinated.
It is important that our teams and fans continue to increase vaccination rates before fall.
Go Griz!
Well let's take what Dr. Fauci says as gospel. He never lies or flip-flops. Does he mention that 99% of the deaths are from those already past the age of life expectancy?

Use your brains folks. The group that has the highest rate of vaccination makes up the highest percentage of death but 99.5% are still from unvaccinated? If you still believe the BS the must vaxx crowd throws out to scare you into getting vaxxed you are beyond hope. Personnaly, I don't know anyone over 70 who is not vaxxed.
 
kemajic said:
The bout of covid I had was not half as bad as the strep throats I had as a youngster. I just had to find a mask as we're getting on a plane tomorrow. Wearing that sucker will be so special, breathing my own CO2 and all.

your anecdotal case is so very convincing that there's nothing to this virus thing. i thought you were a phd chemist? you can't possibly be so dumb as to believe the that your single case means anything, or that you are going to breath excess co2 by putting on a mask. or maybe you can be that dumb, as your other posts seem to indicate it...
 
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