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Musberger Says UM Moving Up Would Be Mistake
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KoolMoeDee
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David2 said:
He says nothing about UM playing in the PAC-10 or having those teams mentioned as opponents. He is talking about recruiting.
" If they want to go up against the Washington Huskies and the Stanford Cardinal and the USC Trojans and BYU and Utah for those athletes, good luck to 'em."
djollieballs
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If Musberger was talking about recruiting, that makes him look even stupider.
Name one team in the country that can win a recruiting battle against USC. We aren't trying to out recruit the Pac 10. We would be trying to recruit WAC level athletes. We would be trying to get bowl eligible and make a name for our self beyond "less than glamorous Montana" or "seldom mentioned Montana" or my favorite "why did our idiot GM just draft a player from the Big Sky Conference?". After a few years of sustained success we would start thinking about recruiting battles.
At this point the "move down" crowd is just grasping at straws.
Name one team in the country that can win a recruiting battle against USC. We aren't trying to out recruit the Pac 10. We would be trying to recruit WAC level athletes. We would be trying to get bowl eligible and make a name for our self beyond "less than glamorous Montana" or "seldom mentioned Montana" or my favorite "why did our idiot GM just draft a player from the Big Sky Conference?". After a few years of sustained success we would start thinking about recruiting battles.
At this point the "move down" crowd is just grasping at straws.
djollieballs said:
Correction:
Lesser schools frequently recruit some of the same kids as schools like USC recruit, because they know the USC's won't ultimately offer to many that they are recruiting and will sometimes lead-on kids to some extent, and some of the kids will sometimes get caught later in the game without an offer from a school they like. That's why UM occasionally gets kids who were being seriously recruited by good schools like UW. Cody Balogh is one such example (UW tried to get him to greyshirt after originally offering the schollie not as a greyshirt; UM was saying he could get on the field as a true frosh). Another example is Chris Clark's brother. He was being recruited by Pac-10 schools, including USC, as well as the Griz. He ended up at Oregon St.
Paytonlives said:
No doubt the product on the field sucked -- I suffered through three years of it myself -- but I have heard and read many times that Donovan's constant complaining about Dornblaser got the ball rolling for construction of a new facility. 1985 was Donovan's last season. I don't remember exactly when they hired Read but it seems unlikely it could have been any earlier than late November of 1985. They broke ground that winter or spring and after playing a few games at Dornblaser in the fall of 1986, Wa-Griz opened during the 1986 season. I know the Griz-Cat/Cat-Griz game was in Wa-Griz that season and there may have been one other 1986 game there.
With that kind of timeline it doesn't seem plausible to say Donovan had no influence at all on the decision to construct a new stadium. That kind of project just doesn't happen that fast. And that decision, to the extent Donovan shared in it or influenced it at all, definitely had a positive effect on Griz football.
griz8791 said:
Not to marginalize Larry Donovan, but then as now, coaches are not the ones who make things happen. It's the guy in the big Main Hall office. In this case it was UM President Neil Bucklew who successfully promoted construction of an on-campus stadium and along with AD Harley Lewis brought in AirRead. Those two deserve the major credit for reviving a Grizzly football program that was all but dead and buried in 1985. GrizNation owes them a huge debt of gratitude. :clap:
Donovan's W-L record wasn't great but he did produce the only BSC football championship between 1970 and 1993. In 1982, the Griz shared the title with a 5 - 2 record along with Idaho and Montana State. I believe we'd beaten Idaho during the regular season but the playoff game between the two was awarded to Idaho. At that time, I recall that the stadium was an issue in not awarding the Griz a home playoff game.
All you need to know about Larry Donovan is this:
The Griz went to Idaho in 1985 and My roomate and I drove down to the Krappy Dome.. The Griz got man handled in the first half and were down either 28-0 or 35-0. The Griz got the second hand kickoff and returned it near mid field... Three runs up the middle for 2, 2 and 1 yard... PUNT THIS WAS THE ONLY GAME THAT I EVER BOO'ED THE GRIZ... Spacifically the coaches
Thats Larry Donovan at his finest, and was the usual...
On a funny side:
The Griz color man with the last name Leonard use to proclaim on the air... "The Griz are polishing the bone!"
The Griz went to Idaho in 1985 and My roomate and I drove down to the Krappy Dome.. The Griz got man handled in the first half and were down either 28-0 or 35-0. The Griz got the second hand kickoff and returned it near mid field... Three runs up the middle for 2, 2 and 1 yard... PUNT THIS WAS THE ONLY GAME THAT I EVER BOO'ED THE GRIZ... Spacifically the coaches
Thats Larry Donovan at his finest, and was the usual...
On a funny side:
The Griz color man with the last name Leonard use to proclaim on the air... "The Griz are polishing the bone!"
