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MSU under DOE Investigation
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garizzalies
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This is a garbage post and you are trash with your own dumb “agenda”.KRF64 said:
Wanna know how I know that’s true?
Because you joined today and this is your first and only post. You work at the school and know they fucked up and are here trying to excuse it?
How does anything you posted change anything?
It does not matter if the order of protection came from the school or a judge.
The victim believed an order of protection was in place (doesn’t matter where it came from). She was given a false sense of security, and then no notice, when MSdUi unilaterally terminated the order.
If MSdUi couldn’t do it in court, what makes you think they can do it “internally”?
There is no excuse for this ridiculous behavior. None.
So why did you create an account trying to excuse it?
1) An LGBTQ+ organization claims to have received a threat.
2) Law enforcement looks into it and deems that it is not credible.
3) Their event goes off without a hitch.
4) They whine that the university didn't somehow do more.
5) Griz fans think this is exciting news.
LOL
These lefty student orgs are become famous for manufacturing hoaxes and victimhood. They expect to be publicly feted for literally nothing. Good for MSU for not making a big deal out of their histrionics.
I know you guys don't like it when the Cats are better than UM on the field, but this straw-grasping is really pathetic.
2) Law enforcement looks into it and deems that it is not credible.
3) Their event goes off without a hitch.
4) They whine that the university didn't somehow do more.
5) Griz fans think this is exciting news.
LOL
These lefty student orgs are become famous for manufacturing hoaxes and victimhood. They expect to be publicly feted for literally nothing. Good for MSU for not making a big deal out of their histrionics.
I know you guys don't like it when the Cats are better than UM on the field, but this straw-grasping is really pathetic.
garizzalies
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You realize these are FEDERAL charges, right? Do you think the Feds are “straw-grasping”?Lord Vigo said:
How do you explain the physical evidence? There are screen shots and Nazi propaganda “plastered” all around campus. Did the lefties plant all that too?
It does not surprise me one iota that your fan base is full of hate-mongering racists. Numerous racist bubs have been band around here. Happens all the time. We were just talking about this like yesterday because a bub was bragging how he got band for having a racist avatar.
BozAngelesGriz
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garizzalies said:
There is a surprising undercurrent of this sentiment in the community of Bozeman. But it is neatly masked by a thin veneer of glitzy, high-end development.
horribilisfan8184
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Lord Vigo said:
We recognize the circle the wagons and fire off in every direction tactic. An old distraction technique that doesn't fly here. It would be easier to clean up your house but that's not the MSdUi way. And, with your posture and the seeming posture of every other defender of her crown, it is likely to stay that way.
Lord Vigo said:
Just remember: it's not the fall that hurts, it's the sudden stop. And there may well be a verrrry sudden stop coming for msu. And no amount of political nutjobness will be able to slow it down.
Curious for anyone who visits: what's the general consensus on the bub baord about this?
***To the MODS, this post is purely an expression of observation and opinion. It's purpose is not hate or violence oriented.***
Ok so being an MSU grad in Engineering I have my own personal grievances with that school besides the Bobcat football team.
First off I wanna make clear that I don't support any violence, hate, or threats against ANYONE. No matter your political affiliation or orientation.
However, there are a few things from that article that I wanna address because they are really far fetched. I am republican as is most of my family. But I have views on both sides of the isle. I don't agree with the radical right or the radical left. If you wanna solve problems, you gotta work together, not just for the benefit of your party. I love Montana because it really doesn't matter what side you're on because we all share similar values about our state.
1) The student saying they transferred to Boise State because they felt threatened...really? I'm sorry, Boise St is more conservative than any campus in the PNW and I think they still have conceal carry laws on campus. From my college experience, the left leaning groups preached from the balconies constantly they hate conceal carry laws because a group at MSU tried to get that law in place. (It never passed)
2) The student who transferred to Iowa State because they felt threatened because of white supremacy? That's the most ridiculous comment I have ever heard. I understand the point of being called the "N" word but african-american students (even msu football players) and adults alike call each other that ALL THE TIME, and its not racist then. You can't be offended by a word if you yourself use it as a term of endearment to other people, including yourself. Not saying that's the case here because it seems like in the article its not.
That being said, the racial slurs being yelled by cat fans at a football game, that absolutely is real. I heard it when I was in the marching band. Griz fans do it too but I heard more of it from cat fans, mainly near the student section.
3) This article is full of manufactured lies and claims from these groups because they somehow feel entitled to be treated above the rest of the us. Newsflash people, you aren't any more special than the person sitting right next to you. I have met many people in marching band part of the LGTBQ community and they don't like a lot of the ridiculous lengths some of these people go to, to make others bend to their will.
4) The fact that the event off campus went on with no issues, and MSU police determined the threat was not credible, and then somehow the groups feel the university screwed up because an event not affiliated with MSU directly or on campus had threats against it, that that somehow violates their safety rights....give me a fricken break. If you're off campus, MSU ain't responsible for you. That's like saying, I'm gonna sue MSU because someone broke into my house and I have to live here to go to MSU, so they are responsible.
5) I have a feeling the harassing emails sent from the fake TP-USA address was an inside job or another group to maybe try and get the group expelled from campus or because QSA/the other group wanted to get a point across and faked the email to make MSU do something. On the flip side, it could be legit, but I have a hard time believing it.
6) Cruzado is not all she seems to be. People seem to think that she is always out with the people and wants to be around. NO. 5 years on that campus and I maybe saw her walking about 3 times. She stays in her office, collects her ridiculously over-inflated salary and only comes out when there is media around. Thats it. She doesn't care otherwise which makes sense why there have been no firings over the DUIs from coaches, and now this DOE investigation.
Personally I think MSU will get a slap on the wrist from this but I believe most of the claims in the article are over-hyped, created from hysteria, and playing victim by association. It's unfortunate as the education I received was very good and got me great job out of college.
Ok so being an MSU grad in Engineering I have my own personal grievances with that school besides the Bobcat football team.
First off I wanna make clear that I don't support any violence, hate, or threats against ANYONE. No matter your political affiliation or orientation.
However, there are a few things from that article that I wanna address because they are really far fetched. I am republican as is most of my family. But I have views on both sides of the isle. I don't agree with the radical right or the radical left. If you wanna solve problems, you gotta work together, not just for the benefit of your party. I love Montana because it really doesn't matter what side you're on because we all share similar values about our state.
1) The student saying they transferred to Boise State because they felt threatened...really? I'm sorry, Boise St is more conservative than any campus in the PNW and I think they still have conceal carry laws on campus. From my college experience, the left leaning groups preached from the balconies constantly they hate conceal carry laws because a group at MSU tried to get that law in place. (It never passed)
2) The student who transferred to Iowa State because they felt threatened because of white supremacy? That's the most ridiculous comment I have ever heard. I understand the point of being called the "N" word but african-american students (even msu football players) and adults alike call each other that ALL THE TIME, and its not racist then. You can't be offended by a word if you yourself use it as a term of endearment to other people, including yourself. Not saying that's the case here because it seems like in the article its not.
That being said, the racial slurs being yelled by cat fans at a football game, that absolutely is real. I heard it when I was in the marching band. Griz fans do it too but I heard more of it from cat fans, mainly near the student section.
3) This article is full of manufactured lies and claims from these groups because they somehow feel entitled to be treated above the rest of the us. Newsflash people, you aren't any more special than the person sitting right next to you. I have met many people in marching band part of the LGTBQ community and they don't like a lot of the ridiculous lengths some of these people go to, to make others bend to their will.
4) The fact that the event off campus went on with no issues, and MSU police determined the threat was not credible, and then somehow the groups feel the university screwed up because an event not affiliated with MSU directly or on campus had threats against it, that that somehow violates their safety rights....give me a fricken break. If you're off campus, MSU ain't responsible for you. That's like saying, I'm gonna sue MSU because someone broke into my house and I have to live here to go to MSU, so they are responsible.
5) I have a feeling the harassing emails sent from the fake TP-USA address was an inside job or another group to maybe try and get the group expelled from campus or because QSA/the other group wanted to get a point across and faked the email to make MSU do something. On the flip side, it could be legit, but I have a hard time believing it.
6) Cruzado is not all she seems to be. People seem to think that she is always out with the people and wants to be around. NO. 5 years on that campus and I maybe saw her walking about 3 times. She stays in her office, collects her ridiculously over-inflated salary and only comes out when there is media around. Thats it. She doesn't care otherwise which makes sense why there have been no firings over the DUIs from coaches, and now this DOE investigation.
Personally I think MSU will get a slap on the wrist from this but I believe most of the claims in the article are over-hyped, created from hysteria, and playing victim by association. It's unfortunate as the education I received was very good and got me great job out of college.
garizzalies said:
Personally I never saw Nazi propaganda at the school when I was there from 2017-2022, but since the screen shots were not apart of the article, we have no proof except someone's word they existed. Also, it would not surprise me if they were planted as a hate tactic to make someone/group of people look bad.
Hoooo boyyyyy.
It says this in the article and is completely true. It also goes on to say the threats were investigated and found to be non credible. The DOE and some gris fans seem to be making a big deal out of something that was handled according to the law. With it also being an off campus event means it’s in the Bozeman police’s hands and when MSU turned it over to them they followed the proper procedure as the university has no standing off campus.
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BozAngelesGriz
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grizfan07 said:
I would be surprised if it were a plant. when I was at Bozeman High in the early 2000s there was a neo-nazi running for school board in Bozeman. He got a surprising amount of support. I can tell you from personal and family experience that the problem is worse today in the Gallatin Valley than it was 20 years ago.
Guys-- I get it. It's a rivalry. Fans are going to use anything they can lay their hands on to criticize the other side. Cat fans do it too.
But can I also just say that Griz fans crossing their fingers and hoping that the Queer/Straight Alliance will be the key to taking down MSU is objectively the funniest thing I've experienced in quite some time? Like, seriously-- I could not script a more hilarious scenario. Just outstanding. Keep up the great work over there.
But can I also just say that Griz fans crossing their fingers and hoping that the Queer/Straight Alliance will be the key to taking down MSU is objectively the funniest thing I've experienced in quite some time? Like, seriously-- I could not script a more hilarious scenario. Just outstanding. Keep up the great work over there.
Lord Vigo said:
Uh, you realize this is serious. Right??
Bear Spray
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EverettGriz said:
Pretty sure I said no such thing, far from it. Way to twist what I said counselor. I bolded it for you, see above. To clarify for Everett & Hoops, isn't there a better forum to discuss legal issues?
Bear Spray said:
Yeah, uh, in case you haven't noticed, we're not so big on particular forums here. If we were, damn near every bub post would be sent to the smack board, like GRIZ posts on bcn. We're a little more free-flowing here, and things that warrant discussion are often posted here, because it's the board everyone uses.
Now, I know you'd love to silence and bury this issue, but it belongs right where it is, thanks.
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