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GriznMN said:
First, saying you are scared of homeless shows how inconsiderate of others and how quickly you are to pass judgement and dehumanize someone because of their current living situation. I bet you call yourself a Christian and your post shows you don't live the values of Jesus Christ nor do you act in a Christ-like manner.

I live in one of the wealthiest areas in the Twin Cities and people always say there are no homeless in our area. What they fail to realize is that the homeless are staying out of sight. However, if you are connected to the people that help the homeless, they will take you to places where there are homeless encampments. You just can't seem them. I bet the same is true for Bozeman. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Have you had a homeless camp directly in front of your home because the city allowed urban camping , proceeded to find out they had a meth lab, have your motorcycle stolen (chain broke) and caught a homeless person trying to break into your house?

If not, I maybe suggest you recuse yourself from further discussion regarding my feelings on it. I have deep sympathy for the homeless. I also hate how the City of Missoula has chosen to manage it.

And for the record , I’m not a Christian, respect Jesus Christ’s teachings, but ultimately view anyone who believes in that made up insanity to be of a lower IQ. Nobody fucking walked around earth like a zombie and God didn’t hammer some 12 year old Jew and birth himself.

Batshit crazy insanity to believe in that nonsense.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Have you had a homeless camp directly in front of your home because the city allowed urban camping , proceeded to find out they had a meth lab, have your motorcycle stolen (chain broke) and caught a homeless person trying to break into your house?

If not, I maybe suggest you recuse yourself from further discussion regarding my feelings on it. I have deep sympathy for the homeless. I also hate how the City of Missoula has chosen to manage it.

And for the record , I’m not a Christian, respect Jesus Christ’s teachings, but ultimately view anyone who believes in that made up insanity to be of a lower IQ. Nobody fucking walked around earth like a zombie and God didn’t hammer some 12 year old Jew and birth himself.

Batshit crazy insanity to believe in that nonsense.
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Have any of those thingfs happened to you. Where did you live? When did they occur?
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Every single thing. I used to live on California St. 2023.

Say whatever you want, but the City of Missoula has completely mismanaged the entire situation. Nobody is happy with the approach being taken.
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What's the right approach? Bus tickets to Seattle or Portland? Fox news floated lethal injection for those folks.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Every single thing. I used to live on California St. 2023.

Say whatever you want, but the City of Missoula has completely mismanaged the entire situation. Nobody is happy with the approach being taken.
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Who would ever live on CA St? Where was-is the camp?

Okay, I will say what I want. You are exaggerating.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Who would ever live on CA St? Where was-is the camp?

Okay, I will say what I want. You are exaggerating.
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Was an awesome area. Close to downtown and the old sawmill district. 5 minute walk to the boat ramp. Everything was fine until the homeless camp came.

Eventually they were able to clean it out after a night of gunshots, but they let it go for an entire year. Last year , City started hauling homeless people and their cars there to park as a part of their new problem. The person trying to get into the house was the final straw so we moved out of town.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
What's the right approach? Bus tickets to Seattle or Portland? Fox news floated lethal injection for those folks.
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Not allowing urban camping.

As a part of the hauling of cars program, taking those cars and putting them in the rattlesnake in front of the most expensive homes or in front of the homes of people who sit on city counsel.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Boy, I hit a nerve on that one, buddy. ;)

I guess the standards of what makes a "dynasty" are subjective in sports. I usually think of "Dynasty" in terms of a set of success in a given period of time. Yes, Alabama has more championships total. But a lot of theirs are WAY in the past.

If we compare their modern dynasties, then Alabama won 6 titles in 11 years from 2009 to 2020. NDSU won 10 titles in 13 years. But you are right that if we count all time championships, Alabama has more. I think we just have different definitions of a "dynasty."

If we are talking all activities at all levels, Loyola high school's run of speech and debate dominance is a contender.
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I got an NDSU thing.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Not allowing urban camping.

As a part of the hauling of cars program, taking those cars and putting them in the rattlesnake in front of the most expensive homes or in front of the homes of people who sit on city counsel.
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So what is your suggestion to not allow urban camping? Arrest and jail the urban campers so Missoula becomes responsible for paying for their food and heat?
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Have you had a homeless camp directly in front of your home because the city allowed urban camping , proceeded to find out they had a meth lab, have your motorcycle stolen (chain broke) and caught a homeless person trying to break into your house?

If not, I maybe suggest you recuse yourself from further discussion regarding my feelings on it. I have deep sympathy for the homeless. I also hate how the City of Missoula has chosen to manage it.

And for the record , I’m not a Christian, respect Jesus Christ’s teachings, but ultimately view anyone who believes in that made up insanity to be of a lower IQ. Nobody fucking walked around earth like a zombie and God didn’t hammer some 12 year old Jew and birth himself.

Batshit crazy insanity to believe in that nonsense.
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"the god of this age (Satan) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." 2 Corinthians 4:4
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Not allowing urban camping.

As a part of the hauling of cars program, taking those cars and putting them in the rattlesnake in front of the most expensive homes or in front of the homes of people who sit on city counsel.
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After the below case in 2024, Missoula did this:

“Urban Camping Ordinance: City leaders enacted updated guidelines to regulate public encampments, prohibit camping in sensitive environmental/park areas, and establish designated management protocols.
  • Crisis Intervention & Outreach Teams: The Poverello Center’s Mobile Support Team and Homeless Outreach Teams work alongside local law enforcement to offer medical care, mental health resources, and shelter referrals directly in the field rather than relying solely on citations.”

    Are you blaming the Missoula city counsel for the prior Boise case?

“Yes. The pivotal case is City of Grants Pass v. Johnson, decided by the U.S. Supreme Court on June 28, 2024.

In a 6–3 decision, the Court ruled that local governments can enforce public camping regulations—including fining or ticketing individuals for sleeping outdoors—without violating the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against "cruel and unusual punishment."

Core Findings of the Ruling​

  • Overturning Ninth Circuit Precedent: The decision overruled a previous Ninth Circuit rule (Martin v.Boise), which had held that cities could not penalize unhoused people for sleeping on public property if there were no available shelter beds.
  • Conduct vs. Status: The Supreme Court majority ruled that anti-camping laws target specific conduct(camping or sleeping in public spaces with bedding) rather than a person's status (being unhoused).Because the law applies broadly to anyone camping in public—whether a backpacker, a protester, or an unhoused resident—it was deemed constitutional.
  • Definition of Cruel & Unusual: The Court stated that standard penalties like minor fines, temporary park exclusions, or brief jail time do not qualify as "cruel and unusual" under the Constitution, which historically addresses severe or barbaric forms of punishment rather than regulating local ordinance choices.

What This Means for Local Cities​

The Grants Pass ruling returned broad authority over homelessness regulations and encampment management back to state and local governments.

  • Localities across the country are legally permitted to enforce bans on public camping, even when local shelter capacity is full.
  • The decision does not require cities to ban camping or clear encampments; rather, it gives local city councils and mayor's offices the legal green light to decide their own regulations, designated shelter zones, and enforcement policies without federal constitutional intervention under the Eighth Amendment.“ Gemini.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Have you had a homeless camp directly in front of your home because the city allowed urban camping , proceeded to find out they had a meth lab, have your motorcycle stolen (chain broke) and caught a homeless person trying to break into your house?

If not, I maybe suggest you recuse yourself from further discussion regarding my feelings on it. I have deep sympathy for the homeless. I also hate how the City of Missoula has chosen to manage it.

And for the record , I’m not a Christian, respect Jesus Christ’s teachings, but ultimately view anyone who believes in that made up insanity to be of a lower IQ. Nobody fucking walked around earth like a zombie and God didn’t hammer some 12 year old Jew and birth himself.

Batshit crazy insanity to believe in that nonsense.
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This one post reveals everything we need to know about you, and it's not good.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
This one post reveals everything we need to know about you, and it's not good.
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Revealed what…that I cared about the safety of my wife and making sure my property was protected?

God…I’m such a terrible person.

Fuck Missoula’s shitty handling of this situation. Go to Bismarck ND or Bozeman MT and try to tell me it is even remotely close to as bad as Missoula.
 
2011BisonAlumni said:
Revealed what…that I cared about the safety of my wife and making sure my property was protected?

God…I’m such a terrible person.

Fuck Missoula’s shitty handling of this situation. Go to Bismarck ND or Bozeman MT and try to tell me it is even remotely close to as bad as Missoula.
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Not that part. The part where you so easily degrade and demean people who have a different system of belief than you do. Very telling.
 
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