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MSN Sports picks Wentz to be No. 2 overall
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2011BisonAlumni
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CDAGRIZ said:
Remember that big game Goff won in college? Neither do I.14-23 record as a starter at Cal. Worst winning percentage ever for a #1 pick. Say he had a bad team all you want, but the guy performed his worst in the biggest games.
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CDAGRIZ said:
I recall Wentz going out as a winner.
You can try to spin it all you want but Goff was a choke artist. Wentz performed his best in the playoffs and in the toughest moments.
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It's still just a guessing game. Remember the experts on "practice squad Tom" as the 2000 draft unfolded?
What did the media say about Tom Brady in 2000?
by CHASE STUART on APRIL 21, 2013
in DRAFT, TOTALLY USELESS
[In case you missed it, earlier this week, I created an NFL Draft Pick Value Calculator and provided wallet-sized and iPhone-style copies of the 2013 NFL Schedule.]
I find old newspaper articles very entertaining, so I decided to see how the Boston Globe documented the selection of Tom Brady in the sixth round of the 2000 Draft.
On April 17th, the day after the draft concluded, the Globe provided a full summary of each player. Here’s how they described the 199th pick:
6, 199 – Tom Brady, QB, Michigan
A pocket passer who will compete for a practice squad spot with the Patriots . . . Drafted as a catcher by the Montreal Expos in 1995 out of Serra (San Mateo, Calif.) HS . . . Completed 62.8 percent of his passes with 20 TDs and six interceptions. Only Elvis Grbac had more TD tosses in a season for the Wolverines . . . Throws a great slant . . . At almost 6-4, 214 pounds, has some mobility . . . Platooned with sophomore Drew Henson . . . Was projected to go in the third round, but dropped quickly.
Another article that day described how Mel Kiper loved two of the Patriots late-round selections:
FOXBOROUGH – Draft guru Mel Kiper thinks the Patriots did a great job with their picks this year, particularly yesterday. He believes fourth-round selection Greg Robinson-Randall, a 320-pound offensive tackle from Michigan State, can be a top-flight player to go with Saturday’s pick of another offensive lineman, Adrian Klemm of the University of Hawaii, in the second round.
“Considering that they didn’t have a first-round pick, they accomplished a lot of things and took players who could really emerge as quality NFL players, including Robinson-Randall and Jeff Marriott [defensive tackle, Missouri, fifth round],” said Kiper.
Oops. That article eventually mention Brady, but made sure to provide comfort to the second- and third-stringers on the quarterback depth chart in Foxboro in doing so:
With a quarterback in mind, the Patriots passed on the athletic Joe Hamilton of Georgia Tech to go for Tom Brady of Michigan with their next pick. Brady, projected as a third-rounder, said he wasn’t upset at slipping. “I don’t think disappointment is the word,” he said. “Whether it’s the second or sixth round, I think everyone starts on the same level.”
Brady’s selection should not affect backup quarterbacks John Friesz or Michael Bishop.
On May 4, 2000, the Globe’s Nick Cafarado wrote an article about the Wonderlic and a certain quarterback with a high score:
FOXBOROUGH – For Bill Belichick, the Wonderlic test results don’t solve any problems.
The Wonderlic is a standardized psychological examination administered at the NFL draft combine in Indianapolis every February. But Belichick has never been able to pinpoint a pattern, or draw any correlations between the test score and the football player. He says he’s had high scorers who can’t understand what to do on the field and he’s had poor scorers who are very smart when it comes to football.
“Sometimes it’s a barometer, but there’s no absolute,” said Belichick.
Belichick probably got a more accurate reading of his 10 draft picks at last week’s minicamp.
Quarterback Tom Brady, who came out of the University of Michigan, scored highest among Patriots picks with a 33 out of 50 points. Brady, a sixth-round pick, showed a strong arm in the minicamp, but will likely end up on the practice squad.
To put his score in perspective, Stanford quarterback Todd Husak (39) did the best at this year’s combine and Iowa State running back Darren Davis (4) did the worst.
The most glowing report I read about Brady came from the Colorado Springs Gazette: “Harbaugh, Grbac, Griese, Brady – another competent if unexciting Wolverine quarterback.” For a more biased source, we can go to Brady’s college coach Lloyd Carr, who said the following immediately after Brady led Michigan to a comeback victory in the Orange Bowl against Alabama:
He’s everything you want in a quarterback…First of all, he’s tough-minded and tough physically. He’s very, very smart and makes good decisions…He’s a lot like Brian Griese. He’ll play in the NFL. There’s a lot of guys out there who doubted Griese, and they’ve lived to see how wrong they could be. And anybody who doubts that Brady can play in the N.F.L., they’ll find themselves in the same situation. The kid just can see things. And the guys around him, they love him. If you knew him, you’d love him, too.
http://www.footballperspective.com/what-did-the-media-say-about-tom-brady-in-2000/
We'll know in 5 years or so.
What did the media say about Tom Brady in 2000?
by CHASE STUART on APRIL 21, 2013
in DRAFT, TOTALLY USELESS
[In case you missed it, earlier this week, I created an NFL Draft Pick Value Calculator and provided wallet-sized and iPhone-style copies of the 2013 NFL Schedule.]
I find old newspaper articles very entertaining, so I decided to see how the Boston Globe documented the selection of Tom Brady in the sixth round of the 2000 Draft.
On April 17th, the day after the draft concluded, the Globe provided a full summary of each player. Here’s how they described the 199th pick:
6, 199 – Tom Brady, QB, Michigan
A pocket passer who will compete for a practice squad spot with the Patriots . . . Drafted as a catcher by the Montreal Expos in 1995 out of Serra (San Mateo, Calif.) HS . . . Completed 62.8 percent of his passes with 20 TDs and six interceptions. Only Elvis Grbac had more TD tosses in a season for the Wolverines . . . Throws a great slant . . . At almost 6-4, 214 pounds, has some mobility . . . Platooned with sophomore Drew Henson . . . Was projected to go in the third round, but dropped quickly.
Another article that day described how Mel Kiper loved two of the Patriots late-round selections:
FOXBOROUGH – Draft guru Mel Kiper thinks the Patriots did a great job with their picks this year, particularly yesterday. He believes fourth-round selection Greg Robinson-Randall, a 320-pound offensive tackle from Michigan State, can be a top-flight player to go with Saturday’s pick of another offensive lineman, Adrian Klemm of the University of Hawaii, in the second round.
“Considering that they didn’t have a first-round pick, they accomplished a lot of things and took players who could really emerge as quality NFL players, including Robinson-Randall and Jeff Marriott [defensive tackle, Missouri, fifth round],” said Kiper.
Oops. That article eventually mention Brady, but made sure to provide comfort to the second- and third-stringers on the quarterback depth chart in Foxboro in doing so:
With a quarterback in mind, the Patriots passed on the athletic Joe Hamilton of Georgia Tech to go for Tom Brady of Michigan with their next pick. Brady, projected as a third-rounder, said he wasn’t upset at slipping. “I don’t think disappointment is the word,” he said. “Whether it’s the second or sixth round, I think everyone starts on the same level.”
Brady’s selection should not affect backup quarterbacks John Friesz or Michael Bishop.
On May 4, 2000, the Globe’s Nick Cafarado wrote an article about the Wonderlic and a certain quarterback with a high score:
FOXBOROUGH – For Bill Belichick, the Wonderlic test results don’t solve any problems.
The Wonderlic is a standardized psychological examination administered at the NFL draft combine in Indianapolis every February. But Belichick has never been able to pinpoint a pattern, or draw any correlations between the test score and the football player. He says he’s had high scorers who can’t understand what to do on the field and he’s had poor scorers who are very smart when it comes to football.
“Sometimes it’s a barometer, but there’s no absolute,” said Belichick.
Belichick probably got a more accurate reading of his 10 draft picks at last week’s minicamp.
Quarterback Tom Brady, who came out of the University of Michigan, scored highest among Patriots picks with a 33 out of 50 points. Brady, a sixth-round pick, showed a strong arm in the minicamp, but will likely end up on the practice squad.
To put his score in perspective, Stanford quarterback Todd Husak (39) did the best at this year’s combine and Iowa State running back Darren Davis (4) did the worst.
The most glowing report I read about Brady came from the Colorado Springs Gazette: “Harbaugh, Grbac, Griese, Brady – another competent if unexciting Wolverine quarterback.” For a more biased source, we can go to Brady’s college coach Lloyd Carr, who said the following immediately after Brady led Michigan to a comeback victory in the Orange Bowl against Alabama:
He’s everything you want in a quarterback…First of all, he’s tough-minded and tough physically. He’s very, very smart and makes good decisions…He’s a lot like Brian Griese. He’ll play in the NFL. There’s a lot of guys out there who doubted Griese, and they’ve lived to see how wrong they could be. And anybody who doubts that Brady can play in the N.F.L., they’ll find themselves in the same situation. The kid just can see things. And the guys around him, they love him. If you knew him, you’d love him, too.
http://www.footballperspective.com/what-did-the-media-say-about-tom-brady-in-2000/
We'll know in 5 years or so.
2011BisonAlumni said:
I don't think he'll be a bust, but I also don't think he'll be a winning starter at the next level. Too big a leap to make. He's just not as NFL ready as other QBs who have faced better competition. Just the facts. He'll be a pretty good career backup.
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CDAGRIZ said:
Steve McNair. Phill Simms. Joe Flaco. Doug Williams.
This is a list of the other FCS QB's selected in the first round. Each of these guys brought their teams to Super Bowls and was either the league MVP or super bowl MVP.
Guess it makes sense to assume level of competition will be too much when there is literally zero historical context to base that argument off of.
On the other hand, the list of spread offense FBS first round QB picks who completely flamed out is quite lengthy.
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CDAGRIZ said:
Carson is going to get a $26M contract to play a kids game in the NFL and will never have to work a day in his life again. Have fun at your desk job trying to convince yourself how cool you are on an online fan forum. You really amounted to something man.
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AZGrizFan said:
Boy you look like a genius with this prediction lol.
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CDAGRIZ said:
Goff certainly looks really comfortable holding that clipboard. Glad you got your guy.
grizcountry420
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2011BisonAlumni said:
and you look like the biggest fooking douche bag on this board for digging up a post thats 5 months old. Nice work gravy train!
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grizcountry420 said:
Hey 420, not to derail this nice little trip down memory lane, but are you still interviewing your next avatar?
grizcountry420
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SoldierGriz said:
Im still working on finding that one great avatar and i promised Reinell30 that this time it would be a frontal..
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grizcountry420 said:
Man why are you so salty this afternoon? Come on it's fun to read through the 9 pages of Wentz failure predictions and CDA pimping the Goff pick. It's okay to say you were wrong.
grizcountry420
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2011BisonAlumni said:
I never had doubts about Wentz.
grizcountry420 said:
Nor did I.
Carson Wentz is 3-0 and is the first player in NFL history with 100+ attempts, 60+ completions, 5+ TDs & 0 INTs in his first 3 career games.
Even the most head-in-the-sand, jealous, ignoramus of Griz fans have to admit that is damned impressive.
…but yes, it was douchebaggery to drudge up this old thread. He looks good (so far) 2011Bizon. Glad that give you something to crow about over here……
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