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Motivation: Where does it come from?
- Thread starter Grizzoola
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“Teaching players during practices was what coaching was all about to me.”
“I don’t think I was a fine game coach...I think I was a good practice coach.”
“I seldom was ever off my seat on the bench during the game.”
--John Wooden
“I don’t think I was a fine game coach...I think I was a good practice coach.”
“I seldom was ever off my seat on the bench during the game.”
--John Wooden
UMGriz75 said:
Speaking of Bobby Knight, he actually weighed in on the UM coach hiring. Called a UM supporter whom he know. Recommended a particular coach, who the former Wisconsin coach loved. Nothing came of it, as UM didn't follow and contact the particular coach.
UMGriz75
Well-known member
John Wooden is likely my favorite example of a "coach." In particular, I've had a lot of coaches that I've known or trained become academy-award prospects in public at the competitions. They would be plying the athletes with so much information and stage-direction -- to show they were a good "coach" -- that the athletes more often than not would glaze over -- too much information, too late.AllWeatherFan said:
To me, the successes were won in practice. "On the playing fields of Eton." Game day, it's too late.
UMGriz75 said:
You have incredibly thin skin. Grow a pair. Some of the players are getting increasingly disgusted the hate you spew. They don't share your opinions, and yes, they are simply that...Opinions.
What was your pre season prediction for the 2016 season? Just curious.
UMGriz75
Well-known member
I'm laughing about it. You've got the thin skin. I quote Bob Stitt and people go nuts. You've got an 'ANTI-STITT AGENDA!" No, the problem is that Bob Stitt's worst enemy is Bob Stitt. it's sports, if you are expecting the delicate pinks and hues of a pre-school, perhaps you need to grow the pair. I am sure you could borrow a pair somewhere.signedbewildered said:
I do like the fact that you claim that "some of the players are getting incredibly disgusted by the hate you spew." Which ones? I'll ask them. There's no hate here. There's a record of players with "no Fire."
Not my words. :lol: :lol:
Sam A. Blitz
Well-known member
No. People don't "go nuts" because you quote Stitt. They get bothered that you take a segment of a speech and then write several paragraphs "going nuts" about it and spinning its meaning to support your biased opinion.
It is very clear that you have an agenda and spend a significant amount of time on here trying to push it...
It is very clear that you have an agenda and spend a significant amount of time on here trying to push it...
UMGriz75 said:
No reason to. I already have. If a player or two share your opinion, they should be getting out of Dodge. Waiting for the mass exodus.....Yawn.
UMGriz75
Well-known member
You mean like this one:Sam A. Blitz said:
http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=75192&hilit=stitt+fire
The one where some argued that he "meant" to say "please pass the butter," because he said something different, nearly the opposite, at a different press conference several weeks later?
Many posters looked to "motivation" and why the team seemed to lack it. Wahlberg had posted a nice piece about how Gregorak was a great "motivator" and put "fire" in his players. In response, we got goodies like these:
But finally, it came down to the claim that Stitt didn't actually mean what he said, because he also said something else later. OK.
UMGriz75 said:
Actually no. Still curious what your pre season prediction was for 16? Beat around the bush much? And since your asking for names, it's only fair to give some right? I see how you are.
bewildered, if you have good player contacts, tell us what went wrong with the season. Why did the Griz lose so many games in the second half of season? Why did the Griz lose to UNC and the Cats? Why did Stitt keep saying the team was flat or not fired up, or whatever he said?
What explanations to your player contact have?
I truly don't understand why the season declined and finished the way it did. Seems inexplicable to me.
What explanations to your player contact have?
I truly don't understand why the season declined and finished the way it did. Seems inexplicable to me.
Jeff Choke
Well-known member
It was pretty self explanatory to me and my coaching staff. I do however understand why its vexing to you.
UMGriz75
Well-known member
I identified team behaviors and community conversation. Anyone could see the field behaviors. Those in the Griz community know it. You know if I identified specific players, there would be hell to pay with Stitt. Their risk would be high. Don't be naive, even if you are.signedbewildered said:
You claimed specific players complained about my posts. They would be Stitt favorites, then, right? No risk in naming them. Name them. PM me and I can ask them.
UMGriz75 said:
No need to. Put your listening ears on kid, I already have. It's pretty cowardly to chastise others for making an optimistic pre season prediction when you haven't even done so yourself.
You make it a point to be so vague and touch on all the bases that you think you can come back later, paste some quotes, highlight a few sentences and convince yourself you are actually right about something.
Again, if Delaney had said the same things Stitt did you wouldn't even take the time to address it. Quit embarrassing yourself.
IdaGriz01
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Just to get back to the supposed point of this thread ... no wait, it seems to have been another Stitt-bashing thread, so I guess it has stayed on topic.
But the thread title implies something else, so: Can a coach, or staff, really "pump up" a team with rah-rah histrionics? Apparently, some can. But, by and large, motivation has to be internal. It's possible that that has become more so with today's athletes. Not too long ago, I had occasion to mix with a few younger collegiate players (friends of the son of a friend of mine). Near as I could tell, they went to at least three different schools -- all D-I. Perhaps they were trying to be "cool," but they seemed to agree that over-blown "pep talks" by the coaches were "embarrassing" and "insulting." A very small sample size and -- as I said -- possibly not really an honest reflection, but ... FWIW.
On a side note, bowl games sure tell you who is, or is not motivated. There have already been several "upsets" where it seemed obvious that the difference was motivation, not overall team talent (and the season records proved it). Right now, for example, Arkansas (7-5) is kicking the crap out of Virginia Tech (9-4), 24-0 at halftime. Say what you want about how strong the SEC is (or isn't), V-Tech came within a TD of winning the ACC, while Arkansas had a losing record in the SEC. The Razorback are playing with a purpose, while the Hokies seem to be just going through the motions. Could change at halftime ... but only if the V-Tech players decide to get in the game.
But the thread title implies something else, so: Can a coach, or staff, really "pump up" a team with rah-rah histrionics? Apparently, some can. But, by and large, motivation has to be internal. It's possible that that has become more so with today's athletes. Not too long ago, I had occasion to mix with a few younger collegiate players (friends of the son of a friend of mine). Near as I could tell, they went to at least three different schools -- all D-I. Perhaps they were trying to be "cool," but they seemed to agree that over-blown "pep talks" by the coaches were "embarrassing" and "insulting." A very small sample size and -- as I said -- possibly not really an honest reflection, but ... FWIW.
On a side note, bowl games sure tell you who is, or is not motivated. There have already been several "upsets" where it seemed obvious that the difference was motivation, not overall team talent (and the season records proved it). Right now, for example, Arkansas (7-5) is kicking the crap out of Virginia Tech (9-4), 24-0 at halftime. Say what you want about how strong the SEC is (or isn't), V-Tech came within a TD of winning the ACC, while Arkansas had a losing record in the SEC. The Razorback are playing with a purpose, while the Hokies seem to be just going through the motions. Could change at halftime ... but only if the V-Tech players decide to get in the game.
UMGriz75
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Authentic Frontier Gibberish. That's the point. Delaney DIDN'T make fool comments like Stitt does, as you tacitly acknowledge. And if he did, why WOULDN'T people be entitled to question his comments?signedbewildered said:
On the other hand, since Delaney's players fought hard for him, and wanted to win, we just don't seem to have the same kinds of questions that embarrass you when asked about the limp sail you tied your red wagon to.
As I have said, I surely want some wind in the sail next season instead of in the gasbag, but in assessing the probabilities of it, there has to be compelling reasons to think so, and those reasons have to be assured of seeing substantial changes in the way this staff coaches.
