Montana's Anderson looking good.

[CDAGRIZ]

Troy is a very intelligent young man. I never saw any indication from him that he thought he was being abused or he was unhappy. If that was the case you would have thought he would have transferred. It is just the opposite. He is always talking about how much he liked being at MSU and being a Bobcat. I agree with Indian-Outlaw, about your stupid post. I hear a lot of the draft experts talking about his success playing multiple positions at MSU as a positive for the draft.

Ya, you gotta remember some of the posters over here are working with a limited gene pool. Anyone remember heading into Cat\griz in Bozo, 2019? TA BEGGED Choate to let him play. Choate just smiled and said I know it's painful but no chance in hell you're taking a snap in this game.

50/50 that Choach knew what player to which he was speaking when/if he said that.

 

[garizzalies]

No physical trait went “unmeasured” with these guys.
So you must mean a mental trait? Like knowing the position better through additional experience and proper training?

adaptability, motivation, even just general interest - not all good football players "love" the game. but, whatever blows your mind, that's ok!

Where have you heard the MT Cowboy is lacking any of that crap? Sounds like you’re just guessing again. By all accounts, the MT Cowboy has all the mental stuff in spades too. At least that’s what all the bubcats would have us believe.
So what is it? Why is the Wyo Cowboy projected higher? If everyone agrees the MT Cowboy is the superior athlete by every metric including playing multiple times on the same field, and they are basically a push when it comes to the mental side, what else is left? If it’s not physical, and it’s not mental, it must be experience/training. Please some bubcat prove otherwise.
Fuck oh dear this isn’t rocket science.
I’m shocked I am getting this much pushback.
Is it really that hard to believe that choach mis-used the kid when it took a new coach to make the move in the kid’s last year. Choach had the poor kid for 4 years and NEVER played him in his spot. Mind. Blown.

 

[bigsky33]

I never saw any indication from him that he thought he was being abused or he was unhappy.

You mean except for getting hurt while playing the wrong position and having to beg the coaches to change him to his natural position?

I’m pretty sure he literally cried the word “uncle”.

Last time I looked, players get hurt playing at all positions in football. You say he got hurt playing the wrong position. He was the Offensive Player of the Year. I would say playing that position was a good thing. Show me any evidence that Troy BEGGED the coaches to change him to LB. Also, show me any evidence that Troy said he was unhappy or abused by the Coach. Do you think it may be that NFL scouts looked at the fact that he EXCELLED on offense and on defense and it raised his draft value? And I think your comparison with Muma is faulty. Muma, excelled at a higher level at LB playing against much stronger FBS teams. I would think that gives him an edge overall with NFL scouts. Did you really graduate from UM?

 

[garizzalies]

Last time I looked, players get hurt playing at all positions in football. Last time I looked, getting hurt playing an unnecessary position equates to an unnecessary injury and is just plain dumb


Show me any evidence that Troy BEGGED the coaches to change him to LB. This is well know; quit playing dumb—you don’t need to pretend. You’re not fooling anyone. You just don’t like the word I used. Ok he “asked”. Same difference. When you are wrong, you resort to arguing form over substance and it’s obvious.


Also, show me any evidence that Troy said he was unhappy or abused by the Coach. see above


Do you think it may be that NFL scouts looked at the fact that he EXCELLED on offense and on defense and it raised his draft value? Do you think scouts looked at the fact he only played the position ONE YEAR and it lowered his draft value?


And I think your comparison with Muma is faulty. Muma, excelled at a higher level at LB playing against much stronger FBS teams. This might be your best argument but you are ignoring the fact that the two shared the same field—twice!—and all accounts say the MT Cowboy was better both times

Face it, choach really underdeveloped your team’s greatest player, and purposefully never played him in the right spot. Never. It’s crazy and I’m like the only one talking about it, which is even crazier. Like it’s taboo or something to point out something so clear.
I think Choach did so to benefit himself and never cared about the best interest of the player.
How is this even controversial? We all know it.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

One thing is for certain: The winningest coach in Bobcat program history (who was fired for being too classy and winning too many games, I guess?) would never.

 

[bigsky33]

Last time I looked, players get hurt playing at all positions in football. Last time I looked, getting hurt playing an unnecessary position equates to an unnecessary injury and is just plain dumb


Show me any evidence that Troy BEGGED the coaches to change him to LB. This is well know; quit playing dumb—you don’t need to pretend. You’re not fooling anyone. You just don’t like the word I used. Ok he “asked”. Same difference. When you are wrong, you resort to arguing form over substance and it’s obvious.


Also, show me any evidence that Troy said he was unhappy or abused by the Coach. see above


Do you think it may be that NFL scouts looked at the fact that he EXCELLED on offense and on defense and it raised his draft value? Do you think scouts looked at the fact he only played the position ONE YEAR and it lowered his draft value?


And I think your comparison with Muma is faulty. Muma, excelled at a higher level at LB playing against much stronger FBS teams. This might be your best argument but you are ignoring the fact that the two shared the same field—twice!—and all accounts say the MT Cowboy was better both times

Face it, choach really underdeveloped your team’s greatest player, and purposefully never played him in the right spot. Never. It’s crazy and I’m like the only one talking about it, which is even crazier. Like it’s taboo or something to point out something so clear.
I think Choach did so to benefit himself and never cared about the best interest of the player.
How is this even controversial? We all know it.

Your responses to my statements are just your opinion and you have no facts to back up your allegations. I know it makes you feel good to stir up controversy about the Cats. I don't know how the NFL scouts evaluated Anderson excelling on both offense and defense. I say it may have raised his draft value. You are not an NFL scout either so you have no idea how they evaluated him. And yes, i will stick by my statement on Muma. His total body of work, excelling at the FBS level at LB during his years at Wyoming, outweigh playing a very limited number of plays in the same one game as Troy, may give him a higher rating.

As far as your always trying to disparage Choate, you have no idea as to what his motivations were. He may have actually improved Troy's value by having him play offense and defense. Again, you keep saying he put him at the wrong position. That makes you look foolish when Troy won Offensive Player of the Year. During the time Choate was here I attended many, many practices and attended all games. I never saw any indication that players were unhappy with him. It always appeared that on the field and in the media, that they like playing for him. That includes Troy.

Did you really graduate from UM?

 

[Mousegriz]

Your responses to my statements are just your opinion and you have no facts to back up your allegations. I know it makes you feel good to stir up controversy about the Cats. I don't know how the NFL scouts evaluated Anderson excelling on both offense and defense. I say it may have raised his draft value. You are not an NFL scout either so you have no idea how they evaluated him. And yes, i will stick by my statement on Muma. His total body of work, excelling at the FBS level at LB during his years at Wyoming, outweigh playing a very limited number of plays in the same one game as Troy, may give him a higher rating.

As far as your always trying to disparage Choate, you have no idea as to what his motivations were. He may have actually improved Troy's value by having him play offense and defense. Again, you keep saying he put him at the wrong position. That makes you look foolish when Troy won Offensive Player of the Year. During the time Choate was here I attended many, many practices and attended all games. I never saw any indication that players were unhappy with him. It always appeared that on the field and in the media, that they like playing for him. That includes Troy.

Did you really graduate from UM?
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So it is Anderson? Huh?

 

[garizzalies]

Exhibit A

A right knee injury at the end of the 2019 season led to surgery in 2020, limiting his participation even in practices during MSU’s coronavirus-canceled 2020-21 season.


Andersen was a running back and linebacker during his Big Sky freshman of the year season in 2017, then became an all-conference first-team quarterback in 2018.


Andersen and his other coaches have been adamant his days on offense and defense are over.


Keeping Andersen healthy is a big reason why, but linebacker is also the position he was recruited for and almost certainly his best position as a pro prospect. He also prefers linebacker.

“It’s more fun to tackle people than to get tackled,” Andersen said.


“Now we’ve got our best leader on defense making all the checks and really being the focal point of how we operate,” Banks said. “I don’t think I’ll ever have a better Mike. Just the person and the athlete, it’s going to be rare that you have that combination in my career, so I’m going to take full advantage of it.”

I love the comment by Banks. How was he the first coach at MSC in 5 years to figure out how to properly use the cowboy? Why did it take until the kid’s last year to finally figure it out? The kid was begging to be moved.
The prior coaches were either misusing him or too stupid—one or the other, which is it?
Not a coincidence that Banks only lasted a year there and got the hell out while the getting was good. Dude was way too smart for MSC.

 

[garizzalies]

Exhibit B

JM: You’re red-shirting this year with an injury. How do you plan to spend your time this season?

TA: I’m fairly excited to take this year to get healthy. It’ll give me some time to work on my body. I’m going to spend my time learning the ins and outs of our defense.

JM: What’s your favorite part of playing the linebacker position?

TA: I really enjoy playing in space. It allows me to read-and-react to what’s going on around me. I’ve played offense before and let me tell you, tackling people is a helluva lot more fun than being tackled (laughs).

 

[garizzalies]

Ex. C

Montana State head coach Jeff Choate also hinted at Andersen moving to the defensive side of the ball on Wednesday. “If there’s one position on our defense to keep an eye on, in terms of who the next impact guy is, you know, talk to (linebackers coach Bobby Daly),” said Choate. “He will have it dialed. He’s the happiest guy in this room, he’s got an impact guy in there right now so, he’s got 15 (Andersen) back there with him so he better not screw that one up. Or (offensive coordinator Matt Miller) will just take him back, right Matt?” While high school athletes transition from offense to defense nearly every change of possession, collegiate players rarely switch sides during their games or during the season.

:lol: :lol:

 

[garizzalies]

“The good news is there’s nothing that’s going on with him that’s going to require surgery,” Choate said Friday morning. “He just needs some rest.

Lie

 

[garizzalies]

 

[garizzalies]

Despite his production at quarterback last season, Andersen was battered and bruised at the end of the year. So he jumped at the opportunity to play on the defensive side of the ball this season, even though he’ll still have a role on offense.

“They kind of gave me that choice there a little bit, which I really appreciated,” Andersen said.

“At the end of (last) year I think everybody was a little beat up, and I was certainly in that boat,” he added.

 

[Griz66]

CBS Sports has Anderson being drafted #26 overall by the Titans. That to me is a huge stretch. He is good but not that good, They likely need to watch film of the first minute of the Griz--Cat beatdown before they rate him that high

 

[GrizTexas]

Kiper's latest mock draft out on ESPN+ this morning has him going at #74 overall to Atlanta...

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The best part is that most Bobcat fans don’t even realize they were bamboozled. That actually think the guy had the program’s best interests in mind.

 

[poorgriz]

The best part is that most Bobcat fans don’t even realize they were bamboozled. That actually think the guy had the program’s best interests in mind.

Hey now! Why you got to be a dream stealer? You know that’s a low blow and it hurts our feelers when you talk about how an ex coach mis used our favorite player on our favorite team.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

My Dearest Mods,

This “Anderson” guy (or is it “Andersen?”) seems to have nothing to do with either the Montana Grizzlies or the FCS, since he done graduated and went pro.

Thus, shouldn’t this thread be benched?

Your friend,
Yogi

 

[bigsky33]

My Dearest Mods,

This “Anderson” guy (or is it “Andersen?”) seems to have nothing to do with either the Montana Grizzlies or the FCS, since he done graduated and went pro.

Thus, shouldn’t this thread be benched?

Your friend,
Yogi

Troy and the Bobcats are sure in the heads of Egriz posters! Wow, 23 pages so far of posts. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[poorgriz]

The best part is that most Bobcat fans don’t even realize they were bamboozled. That actually think the guy had the program’s best interests in mind.

Hey now! Why you got to be a dream stealer? You know that’s a low blow and it hurts our feelers when you talk about how an ex coach mis used our favorite player on our favorite team.