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Montana State Bobcats scouting report

So you think the games between the griz and bobcats weren't big games... good to know.. btw vigens record is the same as haucks 2- 2 in those games
I don’t think anyone with a brain expected the Griz to win those games. They didn’t have depth. 2023 is an example of a big game. BSC on the line and playoff seeds. Both teams were very good. Now maybe go review the games they lost to SDSU and NDSU. Outside of beating SDSU when they were on the road through the playoffs in 2022 - nothing big. All losses. Even at home.
 
Rattle Lamson & everything will fall in place!

Dillon has the correct analysis. Rattle Lamson and the Griz win!

Lamson has never played in Missoula, nor even stood on the sideline during a game there. He has no idea what he is getting into. The closest he has experienced is his game versus the Ducks. He is a good QB but you can see he does get rattled (at Oregon, in their Gold Rush, and even the beginning of this Davis game). Unless the Grizzlies gift him a short field on the opening drive, Lamson will have a very hard time settling in. I see him becoming frustrated. Then hopefully getting pummeled when his happy feet kick in. The cats will score points but they are not going to enjoy the balanced offense they're use to. Book it.

The cats are on their way to 9-3 this Saturday and probably a #6 seed. Go Griz!
 
I don’t think anyone with a brain expected the Griz to win those games. They didn’t have depth. 2023 is an example of a big game. BSC on the line and playoff seeds. Both teams were very good. Now maybe go review the games they lost to SDSU and NDSU. Outside of beating SDSU when they were on the road through the playoffs in 2022 - nothing big. All losses. Even at home.
Really, the semi final game last year to go to the national championship against USD wasn't a big game?...

For the record I think both MSU and the U. Of Montana, both are lucky to have the head coaches they have .. Vigen and Hauck deserve all the credit and accolades they get..
 
A couple things that COULD make a difference.
Cats have not been in a close game on the road all year!
Cats last close game was clear back week two!
The crowd will be loud and disruptive something cats have not had to deal with all year.
8,10,3,6,4,21,7,84
 
Really, the semi final game last year to go to the national championship against USD wasn't a big game?...

For the record I think both MSU and the U. Of Montana, both are lucky to have the head coaches they have .. Vigen and Hauck deserve all the credit and accolades they get..

The same USD team that lost to NDSU 53-17 and who beat Northern Colorado by 7? No. That wasn’t a big game in reality. They weren’t that good. I don’t think MSU is unlucky to have Vegan. Same for Hauck at U of M. I am just pointing out that Vigen hasn’t won the big games, especially close ones. I also want to point out that the FCS is very weak. Only a few teams are threats to win the natty year in and year out. Hauck and Vigen should be having success. They need to wins the big games when the matter.
 
Zero chance your secondary can "run with everyone." Hope your "Texas boys" play man all day. KAY will tear them apart. Cats have zero guys who can cover Griz slot receivers...watch carefully on Saturday.
Track Speeds From Hs (they are likely faster now).

McMillan - 10.45 100m
Ross - 10.75 100m
Boyd - 10.48 100m
C Dowler - 11.22 100m (2022)
Williams - 11.09 100m
Johnson - 23.08 200m
Thomas II - 11.19 100m
(For reference Taco ran 10.92 his senior year, although he is definitely faster)

Griz WR
Davis - 10.86 100m
Bridges - 10.70 100m
Hendrix - 10.43 100m (Freak athlete)

Yes I feel comfortable saying the cats can run with your WRs. Dowler who is likely the slowest plays safety.
 
What does Brott do when he gets to the QB? He has no sacks and 2 TFL. 13 tackles. Did I goof up his stats?
Either your a total idiot, very disingenuous or you don't understand the game of football. Are you trying to say that interior defensive lineman play should be measured in sacks? Gawd you're stupid. How many sacks did Alex Gubner have during his senior year on the interior line at Montana? He must not have been good huh?
 
The same USD team that lost to NDSU 53-17 and who beat Northern Colorado by 7? No. That wasn’t a big game in reality. They weren’t that good. I don’t think MSU is unlucky to have Vegan. Same for Hauck at U of M. I am just pointing out that Vigen hasn’t won the big games, especially close ones. I also want to point out that the FCS is very weak. Only a few teams are threats to win the natty year in and year out. Hauck and Vigen should be having success. They need to wins the big games when the matter.
USD beat SDSU and UND. They were very good
 
Dillon has the correct analysis. Rattle Lamson and the Griz win!

Lamson has never played in Missoula, nor even stood on the sideline during a game there. He has no idea what he is getting into. The closest he has experienced is his game versus the Ducks. He is a good QB but you can see he does get rattled (at Oregon, in their Gold Rush, and even the beginning of this Davis game). Unless the Grizzlies gift him a short field on the opening drive, Lamson will have a very hard time settling in. I see him becoming frustrated. Then hopefully getting pummeled when his happy feet kick in. The cats will score points but they are not going to enjoy the balanced offense they're use to. Book it.

The cats are on their way to 9-3 this Saturday and probably a #6 seed. Go Griz!
He played QB at Stanford… this is probably the only player the cats have had for a while that has experienced noise like this. Matter of fact our Week One game was likely louder than Wa-Griz will be.
 
Dillon has the correct analysis. Rattle Lamson and the Griz win!

Lamson has never played in Missoula, nor even stood on the sideline during a game there. He has no idea what he is getting into. The closest he has experienced is his game versus the Ducks. He is a good QB but you can see he does get rattled (at Oregon, in their Gold Rush, and even the beginning of this Davis game). Unless the Grizzlies gift him a short field on the opening drive, Lamson will have a very hard time settling in. I see him becoming frustrated. Then hopefully getting pummeled when his happy feet kick in. The cats will score points but they are not going to enjoy the balanced offense they're use to. Book it.

The cats are on their way to 9-3 this Saturday and probably a #6 seed. Go Griz!
The same thing was said about Lulay, and that didn't end very well.
 
The same USD team that lost to NDSU 53-17 and who beat Northern Colorado by 7? No. That wasn’t a big game in reality. They weren’t that good. I don’t think MSU is unlucky to have Vegan. Same for Hauck at U of M. I am just pointing out that Vigen hasn’t won the big games, especially close ones. I also want to point out that the FCS is very weak. Only a few teams are threats to win the natty year in and year out. Hauck and Vigen should be having success. They need to wins the big games when the matter.
I was clearly talking about last years USD team which is clearly superior to this year's coyote team..

Last years USD teams compared to this year's team are night and day different from each other in talent and it's not even close.
 
Look at his record and it proves my point. Overtime games, Dakota’s and opponents at full strength win against MSU. They just do. I posted in another thread about his record. The Cats had a soft path to the natty’s both times. That would include against Griz teams that weren’t that good. Sorry, but they did. When matched against a good opponent he cannot get it done. Bobby? Well, he hasn’t won a natty but he sure wins big games that are close. Many many times he has done that. He could be knocked for his national championship record for sure.
What do you mean good teams?? In the FCS that’s very subjective. Cats have only lost to NDSU, UM, SDSU… literally three teams in the entire FCS division have shown they can beat MSU. If that’s your measuring stick is everyone else a bad team??
 
He played QB at Stanford… this is probably the only player the cats have had for a while that has experienced noise like this. Matter of fact our Week One game was likely louder than Wa-Griz will be.

Which loud game? Are you referring to the game the cats lost by 46 points? That loud game? The one where 1/3 of Lamson's yards were gained in the final minutes versus the Oregon third string freshman? It appears he responded well by scoring at the end so they didn't lose by 53 points. Yes, that game may possibly have been louder than this coming Saturday's game, though not necessarily.

I can guarantee any game Lamson experienced with Stanford definitely wasn't as loud as bobcat stadium was last weekend. I can also guarantee Wa-Griz will be louder than any game he experienced in Bozeman. Keep in mind Stanford fans are not known for their passion. The Cardinals have 'wine and cheese' fans, not beer snake ones. Lamson will get to experience a real road game this weekend. Go Griz! (:
 
The same USD team that lost to NDSU 53-17 and who beat Northern Colorado by 7? No. That wasn’t a big game in reality. They weren’t that good. I don’t think MSU is unlucky to have Vegan. Same for Hauck at U of M. I am just pointing out that Vigen hasn’t won the big games, especially close ones. I also want to point out that the FCS is very weak. Only a few teams are threats to win the natty year in and year out. Hauck and Vigen should be having success. They need to wins the big games when the matter.
I’m confused. USD beat NDSU last year…
 
Maybe you should be addressing that to MoneyMoney, then? He was the one that said " the fast and athletic secondary should be able to play man and run with everyone (the Texas boys are quick and young)." SoldierGriz just responded to that direct statement.
Fair. Missed that part. Cats definitely do not play much man.
 
The same USD team that lost to NDSU 53-17 and who beat Northern Colorado by 7? No. That wasn’t a big game in reality. They weren’t that good. I don’t think MSU is unlucky to have Vegan. Same for Hauck at U of M. I am just pointing out that Vigen hasn’t won the big games, especially close ones. I also want to point out that the FCS is very weak. Only a few teams are threats to win the natty year in and year out. Hauck and Vigen should be having success. They need to wins the big games when the matter.
What? Usd beat ndsu last season.
 
I am REALLY hoping I lose the bet I made with my son. He took the Griz, I took the Cats.

If I am wrong, I REALLY want y'all to troll me on Saturday night and for the rest of the year.

I am now going to explain in my completely amateur, know-nothing, couch coach, lack of knowledge as to why I think the Griz will lose:

I base this on the fact that the Griz are 117th in the nation against the pass and 36th against the run; nationally. The Puds are/were 38th against the pass and 10th against the run last week.

Zac Crews. I can't say what I think is going through his head, but if I had the chance to impact the immediate and future results of the UM and at worst I get ejected for it? Oh well.

I would say the offenses are a push. I would give the edge to UM based on the TE's and RBs.

I don't know if UM's OLine can keep the Puds defense in check. they have been playing pretty well lately though, so maybe.

The Puds defense is far far better coached than UM's. I think talent-wise it's a push.

I haven't hid the fact that I have zero use for Tim Hauck's defense, and coaching style. I think he is great Secondary coach. I think he is a crap DC.

Lamson has a better completion percentage and doesn't make the really bad occasional decisions that KAY makes.

KAY has the potential to be an elite, legendary QB at UM. He has improved significantly, but he makes DUMB decisions and tries to force the ball when it shouldn't be forced. He has had dozens of opportunities to pick up first downs with short passes, but elects to throw the deep ball, and he has not been overly successful with those. I predict he will throw at least two totally preventable interceptions on Saturday.

Now I will explain in my completely amateur, know-nothing, couch coach, lack of knowledge as to Why I think the Griz will win:

I think Bobby and company are going to come out a totally different team on Saturday. I really do. There is something in the back of my head that just screams they are going to come out saying "Hold my beer and watch this".

I think there are a lot of plays that have been practiced that WE will see for the first time, but they will have been practicing the entire year for this game.

I think the Griz have nastier attitudes. I think losing six of the last ten is their fuel. I also know Bobby HATES the Puds. I think losing last year has stuck in his craw and I believe the Griz are gonna come in slugging. I think it's going to be a physical game and I wouldn't be surprised to see Unsportsmanlike penalties called on both entire teams.

I really hope we a more balanced approach and different schemes on defense. I believe we are going to see different defensive schemes simply for this game.

I don't think homefield will play much into this one. Well, not true, Wa-Griz gets loud, emotions are going to be high, I can see three or four false starts.

Everyone is talking about Taco Dowler and Julius Davis. Well. Okay. Last year the Griz didn't have Michael Wortham. They are NOT going to be able to shut him down. If they concentrate on MW, then they are going to get a dose of EG. if they concentrate on those two it opens up Gale, Davis, and Deck.

The Puds can't shut down UM's offense. they'll be lucky just to slow them down.

I hope KAY has his break out, all-America, Payton Award winning game on Saturday, and doesn't try to force passes, drop balls, OR get injured.

If the Griz play their absolute best , most complete, mistake free game of the year they will win.

Buuuut all that being said, I bet on the Puds. Money is money, and loyalty has no business in gambling. But I also bet on the Griz, just in case.
 
Which loud game? Are you referring to the game the cats lost by 46 points? That loud game? The one where 1/3 of Lamson's yards were gained in the final minutes versus the Oregon third string freshman? It appears he responded well by scoring at the end so they didn't lose by 53 points. Yes, that game may possibly have been louder than this coming Saturday's game, though not necessarily.

I can guarantee any game Lamson experienced with Stanford definitely wasn't as loud as bobcat stadium was last weekend. I can also guarantee Wa-Griz will be louder than any game he experienced in Bozeman. Keep in mind Stanford fans are not known for their passion. The Cardinals have 'wine and cheese' fans, not beer snake ones. Lamson will get to experience a real road game this weekend. Go Griz! (:
Lamson’s played at Clemson, Notre Dame, and Oregon

Wa Griz is going to be very loud but those are two of the top 10 loudest stadiums in the country.
 
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