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Montana hb112

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/craig-telfer-cece-transgender-woman-steals-400-meter-ncaa-championship-competing-against-women/

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/more-sports/debate-rages-as-transgender-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-wins-world-championship-silver-medal/news-story/501ede62c6454a4ba6d31e66992433ba

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https://www.bicycling.com/news/a29578581/rachel-mckinnon-world-championship-masters-win-transgender-sport-debate/

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Yukon said:
EverettGriz said:
Allowed since 2004. Surgery is longer required.

Anyone catch all those trans people winning all those medals??

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473

iu

You clearly didn’t read the article. The findings of the researchers in the article was that there was no significant advantage 😆 and the transgender who won that race had lost to the third place biological female 10 out of 13 times leading up to the race. Try again squirt
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Yukon said:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473

iu

You clearly didn’t read the article. The findings of the researchers in the article was that there was no significant advantage 😆 and the transgender who won that race had lost to the third place biological female 10 out of 13 times leading up to the race. Try again squirt

I'm starting to think you are trans and a little offended. Sorry about that.
 
Yukon said:
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
You clearly didn’t read the article. The findings of the researchers in the article was that there was no significant advantage 😆 and the transgender who won that race had lost to the third place biological female 10 out of 13 times leading up to the race. Try again squirt

I'm starting to think you are trans and a little offended. Sorry about that.

😆 nope not trans. Also not transphobic. The fact that you think that should offend me says a lot about you though.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Yukon said:
I'm starting to think you are trans and a little offended. Sorry about that.

😆 nope not trans. Also not transphobic. The fact that you think that should offend me says a lot about you though.
okay....squirts. :coffee:
 
Buttegrizzle said:
My question is: Was this the best use of Rep. Turner’s time at the MT legislature? Is TG athletics a crisis, rivaling say, the pandemic, or any other problem facing the state right now? I mean, it really comes down to one old homophobe Republican destroying Giz and (theoretically, hey, it could happen) Bobcat playoff football. When boiled down to its essence, are MTGOP anti-football? That’s not a winning platform for MT state politics.

Transphobe, not homophobe. BTW not everyone in the LBGTQ crowd is all in on the oppressed group of the month.
https://news.trust.org/item/20190412100802-6md1q/
 
Yukon said:
https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/craig-telfer-cece-transgender-woman-steals-400-meter-ncaa-championship-competing-against-women/

iu

Thanks to the mods for moving this thinly veiled political bullshit, supposedly a football related thread. :thumb:
A few selected quotes from the article:
"When Craig Telfer took some hormones, changed his name to CeCe, added fake breasts, and put on makeup he did NOT 'become a woman.' To say that he did is a grievous insult to women everywhere. You would have to be an idiot to think that was true, but guess what? We now live in the age of idiots and idiocy when you magically become whatever you want to identify as." ***Take note many of you eGrizzers, you have become identified and labelled.

Referring to the real women he was competing against, the writer continues: "They know it's not fair, he knows its not fair, anyone with a functioning brain would agree with that." ***Functioning brain required.

"We cannot possibly survive as a culture if this type of nonsense is allowed to take root and become the norm, it is sheer lunacy."
 
Interesting to see the sexist “make me a sammich” crowd suddenly becoming women’s rights advocates. The culture wars can sure lead them to some interesting mental gymnastics.
 
Ursa Major said:
Interesting to see the sexist “make me a sammich” crowd suddenly becoming women’s rights advocates. The culture wars can sure lead them to some interesting mental gymnastics.

Some brains resembling Mr. Wetzel’s and Auntie Anne’s most popular offerings. Especially with the trans male wrastler article posted above.
 
Yukon said:
https://www.outsports.com/2017/2/20/14670616/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-texas

iu

I like and respect you, Yukon. But I don’t think this one supports your angle if you read it.
 
Montana had one TG distance runner. As I recall she didn’t set any records nor was she on scholarship. Her own admission was that her post TG times were significantly slower than her per TG times, due undoubtedly to the absence of Testosterone. It’s an interesting discussion but for fucks’ sake, is Montana so threatened by the TG non-issue that we are ready to give up playoff games that bring joy to tens of thousands just to mollify a handful of crusty old fossils who, if truth be told, probably don’t want minorities playing sports either.
 
When I was at UM in the 80s my buddies and I, all with at least some high school basketball, would (unofficially) scrimmage the Lady Griz in the rec annex. We were full on testosterone laden guys and went six foot to 6-3 across the roster. We out rebounded the hell out of Rob’s finest, yes we did!.




But they still kick our asses most of the time.




My point is. Transgendering probably would not have got me on the team. Er, wait sec. I’m not sure that was my point. Either way, college level women athletes are tough.
 
Buttegrizzle said:
Montana had one TG distance runner. As I recall she didn’t set any records nor was she on scholarship. Her own admission was that her post TG times were significantly slower than her per TG times, due undoubtedly to the absence of Testosterone. It’s an interesting discussion but for fucks’ sake, is Montana so threatened by the TG non-issue that we are ready to give up playoff games that bring joy to tens of thousands just to mollify a handful of crusty old fossils who, if truth be told, probably don’t want minorities playing sports either.

Good question! As I believe CDA mentioned above, these cultural war decisions (gay marriage, legalized weed, transgendered bathroom use) make such a small impact on most of our lives once they become the law of the land.

Taking history into account, this country has always moved toward expanding the rights and liberties of groups. We’re not going to take away women’s suffrage, we’re not going to repeal gay marriage or re-segregate schools. Those who think transgendered rights will be restricted rather than expanded in the future are on the wrong side of history.
 
Ursa Major said:
Interesting to see the sexist “make me a sammich” crowd suddenly becoming women’s rights advocates. The culture wars can sure lead them to some interesting mental gymnastics.

And interesting to see the self-proclaimed women’s rights advocates suddenly become......not.

It’s a crazy mixed up world, ain’t it?
 
AZGrizFan said:
Ursa Major said:
Interesting to see the sexist “make me a sammich” crowd suddenly becoming women’s rights advocates. The culture wars can sure lead them to some interesting mental gymnastics.

And interesting to see the self-proclaimed women’s rights advocates suddenly become......not.

It’s a crazy mixed up world, ain’t it?

It sure is, Mr. Salty.

I believe that’s a bonus point for the naval reference.
 
Ursa Major said:
AZGrizFan said:
And interesting to see the self-proclaimed women’s rights advocates suddenly become......not.

It’s a crazy mixed up world, ain’t it?

It sure is, Mr. Salty.

I believe that’s a bonus point for the naval reference.

:lol: :lol:
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Yukon said:
https://www.outsports.com/2017/2/20/14670616/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-texas

iu

I like and respect you, Yukon. But I don’t think this one supports your angle if you read it.
Yes, I do see your point. I was just proving that this new transgender movement was not just an isolated event. Also, thank you for making a good point and being respectful about it. Much appreciated.
 
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