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Montana’s Semorian defense: New DC Jason Semore turns heads with style and tactic

UMGriz75 said:
brewskis said:
CSM defense or Montana defense? Because it appears you fail to understand that there is a difference.
I think by specifically referring only to the record at the Colorado School of Mines, in response to the published comment about the record of "domination" in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, there is no doubt that my comment was clear. I am sure if you read my comment again you would also see the difference clearly.

I am not sure how you think the Montana defense played a role in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, nor how it might have allowed "the three" to "dominate" it.

I used to think you had an anti Stitt agenda. I was wrong. I see now that your dislike of anything Stitt is only the vehicle to your true agenda: making sure nobody but PR likes you or your posts. Well done!!! Congrats, your the Official "Yoko Ono" of eGriz.
 
Shares of Levi Strauss & Co. dropped 15% the day after Coach Ron Ash was fired at MSU. Dockers sales were projected to be flat as a pancake.
 
I like some of that logic. I've always supported the thought that something shouldn't always be done a certain way "because that's the way it's always been".
 
brewskis said:
Did you know that CSM has 60% of the football scholarships that the rest of the teams in the RMAC offer? Do you think that adds value to what Stitt did after he took over that team that won 45 games in 15 years prior to his arrival?
I don't think you know what the "rest of the teams" offered. In 2014, the RMAC finally just met the DII limit of 36 scholarships. Before that RMAC had a max of 32 scholarships, and a 28 scholarship limit before that. Mines is one of the three largest of the RMAC schools and likely the wealthiest, indeed, the football program there generates more revenue than the average of NCAA DII teams nationally, and is substantially above the RMAC average. I suspect they award more scholarships than most of the RMAC schools.

By comparison, RMAC member Western State has won more RMAC football championships than any other school with 19, and as recently as 2012 offered just 19 football scholarships, exactly the same 60% that you say only "Mines" awarded. You are wrong on the point of scholarships being a peculiar handicap for just Bob Stitt in the RMAC.

http://www.mountaineermadness.com/about-the-mfaa/
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
UMGriz75 said:
brewskis said:
CSM defense or Montana defense? Because it appears you fail to understand that there is a difference.
I think by specifically referring only to the record at the Colorado School of Mines, in response to the published comment about the record of "domination" in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, there is no doubt that my comment was clear. I am sure if you read my comment again you would also see the difference clearly.

I am not sure how you think the Montana defense played a role in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, nor how it might have allowed "the three" to "dominate" it.
I used to think you had an anti Stitt agenda. I was wrong. I see now that your dislike of anything Stitt is only the vehicle to your true agenda: making sure nobody but PR likes you or your posts. Well done!!! Congrats, your the Official "Yoko Ono" of eGriz.
And thank you for your "usual" contribution to any thread. My post was clear. Why someone might think I did not understand the "difference between the CSM defense and Montana defense" when I specifically referred to the specific published quote about the record at the School of Mines in the RMAC was, to me, an odd remark, another fine egriz example of someone desperately searching for what was not there.

If you can't keep up, maybe its time to stop trying instead of contaminating threads with your personal insults. This one is a good example.

You're not posting to the thread to discuss the thread topic, you're simply stalking individual posters. The classic definition of trolling. Aren't there enough egrizers like you already? Since the Mods have basically confessed that they are part of the problem, and even encourage the problem, there is obviously not a remedy on this forum except to note that people like you are more anxious to vent and whine about other posters than to want to discuss football and that honest posters can only point it out when you do. Wouldn't you be happier in a women's club somewhere? Where you can peck and fuss at the other women all day long? Because, that's what you do here.
 
I thought we were talking about Semore's defense v. Cal Poly, but apparently not. Regardless, I felt the need to post this somewhere..... :

Here is one measuring stick for Semore's first game against CP:

Under Gregorak's defense the last 3 years, the Griz surrendered:

2015 - 386 total yds, 356 rushing, 20 pts. - Loss
2014 - 528 total yds, 421 rushing, 41 pts. - Loss
2013 - 403 total yds, 308 rushing, 14 pts. - Win

Averages: 439 total yds, 352 rushing, 25 pts.
 
grizpack said:
I thought we were talking about Semore's defense v. Cal Poly, but apparently not. Regardless, I felt the need to post this somewhere..... :
That's this thread:
http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74698
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Shares of Levi Strauss & Co. dropped 15% the day after Coach Ron Ash was fired at MSU. Dockers sales were projected to be flat as a pancake.
Do you remember the added attention the BSC received on game days by the tweets from members of the fashion industry? Some of my favorites over the years include:

Warning! You could slice open your god damn finger on the crease of Coach Ron Ash's pants today. Smart look!
Bill Blass

Jesus Christ! Coach Ash is my new favorite 'Rodeo Starcher'. Ride 'em cowboy!! I know I sure would!
Miuccia Prada

There is a man in Montana that is changing the men's fashion world. His name is Ron Ash.
Calvin Klein

I never watched football before I became a fan of Coach Ron Ash. Go Cats!
Ralph Lauren

Coach Ash is sporting a new yellow pullover with a blue MSU logo. It truly is this cat's MEOW!
Anna Wintour
 
I.M.O.#90-C.C. said:
“My role has changed a lot,” Semore said. “[I’m] trying to train these defensive players to understand, not only their job within the defense, but how our defense impacts what we’re trying to do offensively.
In the "coach's show" thread last week, I got in a spat with Ace and Gary because they could not possibly understand how what the defense is doing impacts the O strategy. Well there it is in black&white!
 
garizzalies said:
I.M.O.#90-C.C. said:
“My role has changed a lot,” Semore said. “[I’m] trying to train these defensive players to understand, not only their job within the defense, but how our defense impacts what we’re trying to do offensively.
In the "coach's show" thread last week, I got in a spat with Ace and Gary because they could not possibly understand how what the defense is doing impacts the O strategy. Well there it is in black&white!

Let's see what you were saying then. I'm doubting that what you said now is accurate, but I will wait to see the specifics from you. I am guessing the discussion was about what the defense may or may not have been saying to the offense, which has nothing to do with what Semore said.
 
I knew as sure as Gods got sandles that this shit would jump to another thread when the other one was locked.
SMFH
 
Mavman said:
I knew as sure as Gods got sandles that this shit would jump to another thread when the other one was locked.
SMFH
It's not locked. I checked to see who "could not possibly understand how what the defense is doing impacts the O strategy" since that's the whole point of a defense, but couldn't see any relevant comment on that point at all. And the thread was still there, perhaps it got unlocked.

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=74587&start=100
 
UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
UMGriz75 said:
brewskis said:
CSM defense or Montana defense? Because it appears you fail to understand that there is a difference.
I think by specifically referring only to the record at the Colorado School of Mines, in response to the published comment about the record of "domination" in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, there is no doubt that my comment was clear. I am sure if you read my comment again you would also see the difference clearly.

I am not sure how you think the Montana defense played a role in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, nor how it might have allowed "the three" to "dominate" it.
I used to think you had an anti Stitt agenda. I was wrong. I see now that your dislike of anything Stitt is only the vehicle to your true agenda: making sure nobody but PR likes you or your posts. Well done!!! Congrats, your the Official "Yoko Ono" of eGriz.
And thank you for your "usual" contribution to any thread. My post was clear. Why someone might think I did not understand the "difference between the CSM defense and Montana defense" when I specifically referred to the specific published quote about the record at the School of Mines in the RMAC was, to me, an odd remark, another fine egriz example of someone desperately searching for what was not there.

If you can't keep up, maybe its time to stop trying instead of contaminating threads with your personal insults. This one is a good example.

You're not posting to the thread to discuss the thread topic, you're simply stalking individual posters. The classic definition of trolling. Aren't there enough egrizers like you already? Since the Mods have basically confessed that they are part of the problem, and even encourage the problem, there is obviously not a remedy on this forum except to note that people like you are more anxious to vent and whine about other posters than to want to discuss football and that honest posters can only point it out when you do. Wouldn't you be happier in a women's club somewhere? Where you can peck and fuss at the other women all day long? Because, that's what you do here.

Okay I have a minute or two to spare so I will pay my token and spin the wheel. The above underlined seems to state that you believe that some posters are only here to troll while others are here to discuss football. Can I assume that you place yourself in the latter category? If so what is it about this defensive football thread that you wish to discuss?

From what I read in your initial post you wanted to point out that the over-zealous writing of some young kid from a university newspaper relayed some information in their opening that was factually questionable. Whether or was or wasn't doesn't add anything to a discussion about Coach Semore's defense which is the topic of the thread. You post also doesn't ask any questions about Coach Semore's defense so I don't see how that would lead to a discussion. So here is your chance, fire away, ask a discussion provoking question or make an astute observation about Montana's Semorian defense: New DC Jason Semore turns heads with style and tactic.

I will happily and honestly throw my cold, loud, pedestrian thoughts into any football discussion.
 
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grizpack said:
I thought we were talking about Semore's defense v. Cal Poly, but apparently not. Regardless, I felt the need to post this somewhere..... :

Here is one measuring stick for Semore's first game against CP:

Under Gregorak's defense the last 3 years, the Griz surrendered:

2015 - 386 total yds, 356 rushing, 20 pts. - Loss
2014 - 528 total yds, 421 rushing, 41 pts. - Loss
2013 - 403 total yds, 308 rushing, 14 pts. - Win

Averages: 439 total yds, 352 rushing, 25 pts.
That 2014 game is going to hold about 10% responsibility for my future need of a liver replacement.


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SaskGriz said:
If so what is it about this defensive football thread that you wish to discuss?

From what I read in your initial post you wanted to point out that the over-zealous writing of some young kid from a university newspaper relayed some information in their opening that was factually questionable. Whether or was or wasn't doesn't add anything to a discussion about Coach Semore's defense which is the topic of the thread.
At the risk of explaining the obvious, I was responding directly to the opening post. Indeed, the very first paragraph of it.

It says this:
The Men from Mines is a three-part series profiling three Montana coaches who came from the Colorado School of Mines in Golden, Colorado: Defensive coordinator Jason Semore, pass game coordinator Nolan Swett and head coach Bob Stitt. The three dominated the Division II Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference and now shape the crucial aspects of Montana football that makes it so successful.
See that part about the "Men from Mines?" That's the meme of the thread.

In terms of the defense brought to UM, if it is indeed based on the performance and record gained at "Mines," it might be useful to determine first the accuracy of the claims made about the "dominance" of the RMAC by "Mines" as the result of the contributions of the three named coaches. Coach Semore, and presumably his "defense," was counted as one of the reasons for the "dominance." And, it was claimed, the experience at "Mines" "now shapes the crucial aspects of Montana football that makes it so successful."

That's a big claim to make as the basis for Semore "turning heads" because of that experience. I'd give his much longer previous experience the bulk of the credit, frankly. But, the poster did not go there, so neither did I. I limited my comments to his actual post.

Since it was the first paragraph, and was posted on egriz, I took the opportunity to look at the record at "Mines" and specifically included the references to Semore's contributions.

The original poster apparently thought it was relevant -- so much so that he drew a direct connection to the "Mines" record as proof of his contentions -- so perhaps you should take up your objection with him, since I was simply responding to the direct remark.

I can understand your surprise on egriz about someone responding directly to specific claims made in an opening post. Why you might object is the interesting part.

Yes, as you note, it was factually questionable. I questioned it and provided the factual basis as to why it was "questionable." Whether or not it was the "over-zealous writing of some young kid" is your call. Unlike you, I made no personal comments about the writer. But someone decided it needed to be posted here and this is, in its rapidly disappearing function, still a place to discuss football.
 
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