Microcosm of the season

[bgbigdog]

C’mon BS33. If you’re going to post here you need to keep up. Unless argh is posting & then you can just make up whatever you want. It’s sarcasm. & please learn to use the quotes function. This kind of crap may work on BN, but you’re not posting there.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

BS33, please, let the adults talk here. There are many other threads in which you can be the way that you are.

 

[SoldierGriz]

C’mon BS33. If you’re going to post here you need to keep up. Unless argh is posting & then you can just make up whatever you want. It’s sarcasm. & please learn to use the quotes function. This kind of crap may work on BN, but you’re not posting there.

Ha ha...

 

[Ursa Major]

BS33, please, let the adults talk here. There are many other threads in which you can be the way that you are.

This. Mods, can we get a coloring forum or a simple 'find the treasure chest' maze for our guests?

 

[sdk.catfish]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

If it’s all about academic opportunities how, pray tell, does EWU do it then?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

If it’s all about academic opportunities how, pray tell, does EWU do it then?

By winning and having an electric offense.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

I get your point but I think Bobby has done a good job recruiting so far.

 

[sdk.catfish]

by cmtgrizzly » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:32 pm

I get your point but I think Bobby has done a good job recruiting so far.

Maybe but he didn't get great accolades for last year's recruiting class which was understandable based on when he was hired. He has gotten verbals from some of the perceived best seniors in Montana which I acknowledge and congratulate him for but I'm not one who is convinced that you can build a national champion, or even a BSC champion, based on in-state recruits. But getting the best of the best out of state recruits will be difficult with a 6 -5 record and no playoffs. Not saying that it can't be done but the "convincing" of top notch recruits becomes more difficult when they have access to a whole lot of information that wasn't available to them ten years ago.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

It was a very Bob Stitt like year.

It was, maybe next year they can exceed that level.

Doubtful

 

[GrizLA]

I know I am a minority here, but MSU game didn't mean as much to me as the Idaho game, and it was great this year. MSU was just the other Montana school. My brother went there and he still foams at the mouth thinking of UM while I mention Idaho is THE game.

 

[behappp]

Andrew Houghton
@AndrewH202
The Griz outscored opponents by 44 points in first quarters this year, 42 in the second quarter, 35 in the third quarter — and then were outscored by 62 combined points in fourth quarters. I dare anyone to find me another team with that distribution this season

I've been sitting here, drunk as shit, trying to do this math. Hopefully, when I sober up, I will do a good job of doing the math of what we did in the 4th qtr against teams with winning records (and that includes DRake).
I know it ain't going to be pretty.

 

[behappp]

Maybe if the fans would get back in their seats at the beginning of the 4Q, we'd be looking at a playoff game. I mean, it has to be something other than opposing coaches figuring it out as the game goes on, and ours not doing so. That cannot be the case.

I know, right, since the Griz have the best FCS talent this side of UNDSU, the coaching has to be the weak link.

Apparently we do, for three quarters, per your post of Houghton's tweet. Everyone just stops knowing how to play football in the 4Q, right?

Lack of depth and youth...imo.

In game adjustments by the coaches have a lot to do with it IMHO. We won't know until 2019 unfortunately. But I honestly believe that Stitt's loyalty to Semore cost him his job. I know what Bobhy can do as a head coach, but until proven otherwise, I will be wary of his assistants. Griz alums or not.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

by cmtgrizzly » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:32 pm

I get your point but I think Bobby has done a good job recruiting so far.

Maybe but he didn't get great accolades for last year's recruiting class which was understandable based on when he was hired. He has gotten verbals from some of the perceived best seniors in Montana which I acknowledge and congratulate him for but I'm not one who is convinced that you can build a national champion, or even a BSC champion, based on in-state recruits. But getting the best of the best out of state recruits will be difficult with a 6 -5 record and no playoffs. Not saying that it can't be done but the "convincing" of top notch recruits becomes more difficult when they have access to a whole lot of information that wasn't available to them ten years ago.

Which coach had more time to recruit his first class...our current coach or the last guy?

I consulted my Magic 8-Ball about Bobby’s recruiting, and it said, “I guess we will find out.”

 

[PlayerRep]

With the new early signing day, Stitt had more time, as he didn't have to deal with that.

 

[Ursus1]

Maybe other teams offenses adjust to the Griz defense at half like good coaches do, and FBS superstar Baer can't counter move during the second half, and Rosy can't counter move opponents halftime adjustments so can keep the ball away AND score more points. If not for some huge 3rd down conversions with some very lucky completions the offense would have been stymied a lot in the second half. Sadly MSU outcoached and outplayed the Griz in the second half. Chokes timeout on thegoalline was huge....they got there guys ready for the same play that was run and didn't count, and sold out on it running again which the Griz did. Game over

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

If it’s all about academic opportunities how, pray tell, does EWU do it then?

By winning and having an electric offense.

They use electricity? Cheaters!

 

[fanofzoo]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

I get your point but I think Bobby has done a good job recruiting so far.

Eastwood?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Probably a bigger microcosm of the season could be established by the direction both universities have taken. MSU now has almost 5000 more students. Many of those students are seeking degrees in engineering and other STEM relate programs that at least are perceived from a pay perspective to better than those at UM. When that happens then it becomes much more difficult to rebuild football programs because student athletes are more in tune with what their future is after football. I know the sugar-coaters believe that the championship center, big crowds at WGS and tradition will overcome less than stellar academic programs, financial difficulties and mediocre records but that may not be the case anymore. Even if you are Bobby Hauck it becomes more difficult to recruit the type of athletes that can turn programs around. I give Choate credit but he has the MSU academic program to back him up - how he got Infanse is not easily understood unless he wants to become an engineer. UM, with a 6-5 record, and no playoff appearances in 3 years is going to become an increasingly difficult place to recruit the players that will turn things around. Drop-downs and top high school seniors will look for other places to play. Even though I know that many of you hold unrealistic expectations just ask yourself if you are a 3-star recruit not getting FBS action would you rather check out NDSU, EWU, Cal Davis, MSU or UM. Just trying to point out how difficult a rebuild for Hauck is going to be, and it may never happen, even if there is always hope that it can.

If it’s all about academic opportunities how, pray tell, does EWU do it then?

By winning and having an electric offense.

They use electricity? Cheaters!

And enemas and blood infusions...but those are hush hush

 

[AZGrizFan]

If it’s all about academic opportunities how, pray tell, does EWU do it then?

By winning and having an electric offense.

They use electricity? Cheaters!

And enemas and blood infusions...but those are hush hush

I KNEW it!!!! :twisted: :twisted: