Maybe what I like best this year

[Umista]

I love chest thumping my wife after we make a great play. I ran into trouble when I did it with the young well built girl sitting nex to me.
So now I don't do much chest thumping...

 

[AZGrizFan]

Was watching some of the "big time" college games last weekend and (before this thread was even started) was thinking as I watched some of the ridiculous celebrations that "you'd think they just won the fucking Heisman they way they're celebrating"....

Then watched about 5 minutes of NFL this weekend and was just disgusted by what I saw, celebration-wise....EVERY STINKING PLAY. Almost without exception. Seriously, the NFL has become almost unwatchable.

 

[IdaGriz01]

… [We] are from the "act like you've been there" school. Cultures change, but I do think it's important for coaches to teach the value of "delaying gratification." Staying on-point until the fat lady sings keeps the energy and focus available for where & when it's really needed. It's a tough sell because the examples otherwise are everywhere. I think you're right - we can thank a hurry-up mentality for helping to quell the "look @ me" mindset.

Was watching some of the "big time" college games last weekend and (before this thread was even started) was thinking as I watched some of the ridiculous celebrations that "you'd think they just won the f***[*] Heisman they way they're celebrating"....

Then watched about 5 minutes of NFL this weekend and was just disgusted by what I saw, celebration-wise....EVERY STINKING PLAY. Almost without exception. Seriously, the NFL has become almost unwatchable.

Totally agree with the theme of this thread ... which should perhaps be labeled the "Old Fogey's Thread." :?

"Back in the day," you were asking for a fat lip (at least) if you over-celebrated a fairly routine score/play. At bottom, of course, celebration is a form of taunting ... which there are supposedly rules against. But, as bbdog says, cultural norms change and now it's all about "self expressions" and "if you've got it flaunt it" and "live in the moment" etc.

To be fair, it's okay to have fun and enjoy a good play -- as long as you don't overdo it. But the notion of staying focused is the crucial, practical value of not getting carried away. Unless it is the final game-winner -- in which a big celebration is perhaps justified -- you have more work to do. The whole point is to win the contest, not just one play.

Seems to me there's a good rule of thumb to gauge the level of celebration that makes sense. If the opponent is ready to shake your hand in "mature appreciation" for the play, then maybe you've done something special. And that goes for offense or defense. As a defensive back, I hated to get beat, even for a small gain. But if the receiver goes up and makes a circus catch, one-handed grab, etc. ... well, you shake your head in "rueful admiration" and play on. On offense (yes, I played both ways), you respect the shoe-string tackle, the incredible defensive move to thwart a catch, and so on. Those are the plays you can get excited about.

 

[Ringneck]

watched about 5 minutes of NFL this weekend and was just disgusted by what I saw, celebration-wise....EVERY STINKING PLAY. Almost without exception. Seriously, the NFL has become almost unwatchable.

Couldn't agree more. I found it so unwatchable this Sunday that I turned it off and read a book instead. For fun. A book, I tell ya!

 

[Ursa Major]

… [We] are from the "act like you've been there" school. Cultures change, but I do think it's important for coaches to teach the value of "delaying gratification." Staying on-point until the fat lady sings keeps the energy and focus available for where & when it's really needed. It's a tough sell because the examples otherwise are everywhere. I think you're right - we can thank a hurry-up mentality for helping to quell the "look @ me" mindset.

Was watching some of the "big time" college games last weekend and (before this thread was even started) was thinking as I watched some of the ridiculous celebrations that "you'd think they just won the f***[*] Heisman they way they're celebrating"....

Then watched about 5 minutes of NFL this weekend and was just disgusted by what I saw, celebration-wise....EVERY STINKING PLAY. Almost without exception. Seriously, the NFL has become almost unwatchable.

Totally agree with the theme of this thread ... which should perhaps be labeled the "Old Fogey's Thread." :?

"Back in the day," you were asking for a fat lip (at least) if you over-celebrated a fairly routine score/play. At bottom, of course, celebration is a form of taunting ... which there are supposedly rules against. But, as bbdog says, cultural norms change and now it's all about "self expressions" and "if you've got it flaunt it" and "live in the moment" etc.

To be fair, it's okay to have fun and enjoy a good play -- as long as you don't overdo it. But the notion of staying focused is the crucial, practical value of not getting carried away. Unless it is the final game-winner -- in which a big celebration is perhaps justified -- you have more work to do. The whole point is to win the contest, not just one play.

Seems to me there's a good rule of thumb to gauge the level of celebration that makes sense. If the opponent is ready to shake your hand in "mature appreciation" for the play, then maybe you've done something special. And that goes for offense or defense. As a defensive back, I hated to get beat, even for a small gain. But if the receiver goes up and makes a circus catch, one-handed grab, etc. ... well, you shake your head in "rueful admiration" and play on. On offense (yes, I played both ways), you respect the shoe-string tackle, the incredible defensive move to thwart a catch, and so on. Those are the plays you can get excited about.

If you over-celebrate on a routine play . . .

 

[bgbigdog]

I love chest thumping my wife after we make a great play. I ran into trouble when I did it with the young well built girl sitting nex to me.
So now I don't do much chest thumping...

The chest bumping U story I heard had something to do with the ocean-goer, vast quantities of wine, well-built girls overboard, and bodies in international waters. Mrs. U takes an extremely dim view of such things, and rightly so.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I love chest thumping my wife after we make a great play. I ran into trouble when I did it with the young well built girl sitting nex to me.
So now I don't do much chest thumping...

You're not supposed to do it when the Kiss-Cam is on you, U! :lol:

 

[BozAngelesGriz]

But this new attitude conflicts with DOLA!

 

[1972]

Oh! Story time. Saw two occasions that lend to the molding player attitudes like you guys are talking about here.

Spring camp: Shoving match / near fight breaks out between a WR and CB. Stitt stops practice, has the whole team line up on the sideline, chews all of their asses. Had some choice words about discipline and composure and what that means when the game is on the line. Then the whole team runs sprints. No one is spared. It's broadcasted that if one (or a few guys) screw up - the whole team pays the price.

Fall camp: Defense gets a pick-6 in an 11-on-11 drill, get crazy with celebration. One O-line player gets a little too offended by it and shoves a D-lineman, they lock horns, everyone comes together, typical intensity boiling over kind of thing - wouldn't really call it a fight. Again Stitt stops practice, he's pissed. This time instead of vague reminders of discipline and composure - he goes down the list from 2015 when being a hot head/getting a personal foul/losing focus had cost the Griz a win. With probably exception to the NDSU playoff loss he reminded the guys game by game that choice moments of bad decisions and how it might have cost them from winning that game.

There's a big focus on unity but also on personal accountability and steady reminders that one dumb individual action could cost the team the game. These guys have to have it ingrained in their minds by now, because I'll bet they've heard it multiple more times than just the 2 times I saw.

Awesome to hear, I've seen multiple times when players either delivered the hit, or on the receiving end of it, they jumped up, or helped the other player up, tapped their helmet and went on to the next play. I for one, really like to see this, win with class and loose with class, we all know you aren't going to win every time. Good for Stitt, teaching very valuable life lessons to these kids.

 

[PhxGriz]

… [We] are from the "act like you've been there" school. Cultures change, but I do think it's important for coaches to teach the value of "delaying gratification." Staying on-point until the fat lady sings keeps the energy and focus available for where & when it's really needed. It's a tough sell because the examples otherwise are everywhere. I think you're right - we can thank a hurry-up mentality for helping to quell the "look @ me" mindset.

Was watching some of the "big time" college games last weekend and (before this thread was even started) was thinking as I watched some of the ridiculous celebrations that "you'd think they just won the f***[*] Heisman they way they're celebrating"....

Then watched about 5 minutes of NFL this weekend and was just disgusted by what I saw, celebration-wise....EVERY STINKING PLAY. Almost without exception. Seriously, the NFL has become almost unwatchable.

Totally agree with the theme of this thread ... which should perhaps be labeled the "Old Fogey's Thread." :?

"Back in the day," you were asking for a fat lip (at least) if you over-celebrated a fairly routine score/play. At bottom, of course, celebration is a form of taunting ... which there are supposedly rules against. But, as bbdog says, cultural norms change and now it's all about "self expressions" and "if you've got it flaunt it" and "live in the moment" etc.

To be fair, it's okay to have fun and enjoy a good play -- as long as you don't overdo it. But the notion of staying focused is the crucial, practical value of not getting carried away. Unless it is the final game-winner -- in which a big celebration is perhaps justified -- you have more work to do. The whole point is to win the contest, not just one play.

Seems to me there's a good rule of thumb to gauge the level of celebration that makes sense. If the opponent is ready to shake your hand in "mature appreciation" for the play, then maybe you've done something special. And that goes for offense or defense. As a defensive back, I hated to get beat, even for a small gain. But if the receiver goes up and makes a circus catch, one-handed grab, etc. ... well, you shake your head in "rueful admiration" and play on. On offense (yes, I played both ways), you respect the shoe-string tackle, the incredible defensive move to thwart a catch, and so on. Those are the plays you can get excited about.

If you over-celebrate on a routine play . . .

I loved that episode! Still use that phrase.

 

[stilwtrgrizz]

DAMN I love this thread. My oldest brother was the first one I ever heard say "Act like you have done it before"....and that was way back in the late 50's when he was playing for Washington State. I love good plays, I love good sports, and I love team players, and ALL of them, IMHO, can be enriched WITHOUT ridiculous, overdone celebrations.

 

[GrizGuy]

There is a lot to like this year but re-watching both games I think I like the best is the workman-like effort of the Griz players in the game. There have big plays and reasonable end zone celebrations but during the flow of the game, no chest bumping or extreme gesturing/dancing/gyrating nonsense. Good plays are made then maybe a pat on the helmet and right back at it. Contrast that to watching the OK St game where every tackle or tipped ball led to 2 or 3 players chest bumping and over-reacting (perhaps coincidentally OK St at home lost to an unranked opponent). Keeping perspective is vitally important to keeping your eye on the end goal. I love the demeanor of the team.

How dare you come on this forum and make reasonable observations about the Griz! Don't you know this is a playground for one person?! Maybe three who're all the same person? Now get back in line with your "positivity," and your "upbeat attitude" and your "love." There's no love in football!

Having said that. I agree with you completely.

Go Griz!

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

Some years back a reporter asked Walter Payton what he thought about the end zone celebrations after a TD. After a touchdown Payton would simply hand the ball to a ref and head to the sideline. His response to the reporter is a classic. Act like you have been there before.

 

[Umista]

On the old farts list of items:
Let us hope in our lifetime no Griz player kneels in protest while the fat lady sings our famous song before the game.
I still love the fact our team sings the Griz song after each game.
After Shayne Cochran got the 15 yard unsporstmenship penalty during a kick-off...later during another kick-off he was seen helping an opposing player to his feet along with a pat on the back. Great turn around.
I like this new way of being for our team. Tough but clean!
Even Royce is starting to believe the fact that a good Griz football team helps recruit kids to our school.
Why is the next home game years away?????

 

[stilwtrgrizz]

On the old farts list of items:
Let us hope in our lifetime no Griz player kneels in protest while the fat lady sings our famous song before the game.
I still love the fact our team sings the Griz song after each game.
After Shayne Cochran got the 15 yard unsporstmenship penalty during a kick-off...later during another kick-off he was seen helping an opposing player to his feet along with a pat on the back. Great turn around.
I like this new way of being for our team. Tough but clean!
Even Royce is starting to believe the fact that a good Griz football team helps recruit kids to our school.
Why is the next home game years away?????

I DEFINITELY qualify as both an old fart and an old fogy, so if I may make a slightly more personal observation,comment,request, on this the most civil thread I think I have ever seen on here. Could we please start a fund drive to get the $3000.00 per year needed to put the last name of the players on the back of the jersey's since there seems to be no room in the budget for it? My memory is so far gone, that even if I knew all the names on the roster, I would forget what numbers they all belong to. For my wife's sake, and mine. PLEASE ????