Mature discussion, NCAA investigation.

[Cats2506]

Can someone who speaks gibberish please translate what the hell 2506 is trying to say?

Thank you.

You wouldn't understand it if it was explained using crayons, I guess that is why you guys are the idiots getting investigated by every acronym in the country

 

[EverettGriz]

Can someone who speaks gibberish please translate what the hell 2506 is trying to say?

Thank you.

You wouldn't understand it if it was explained using crayons, I guess that is why you guys are the idiots getting investigated by every acronym in the country

If you wrote it, I wouldn't understand it no matter what the medium.

 

[GrizLA]

Can someone who speaks gibberish please translate what the hell 2506 is trying to say?

Thank you.

Why? Isn't it basically the same thing over and over?

 

[PlayerRep]

Are you saying when the police reported to the coach that no criminal behavior had occurred, that the coach/university should have reported the incident back to the police? Now that's pretty funny. Note that the police had determined that no criminal behavior had occurred, whether a felony or misdemeanor.

A lawyer with the permission of his client can answers questions and provide information to a third party. The lawyer, with the permission of his client who was presumably sitting in the same room, probably gave a preliminary assessment of the facts/case, and said that the case would eventually be dismissed or essentially dismissed. Foley was acting on behalf of the president, and the president was involved in the decisions that were made.

It's funny to see you spout off about the legal system, when you obviously have no clue as to how it works.

pflu knew about the alleged gang rape and didn't report it to his superiors before the police told him that they would not prosecute, that is why they told him, because he was investigating if he needed to suspend them for 1 or 2 quarters of play

if you know there is an allegation of gang rape against your players you have a moral duty (as the NCAA sees it) to do something about it.

Nope, what you said is not true. Pflu was informed by the police when they told him that they weren't going to pursue the matter--not before. The incident occurred after the season had ended (in Dec. 2010; recall the UM didn't make the playoffs that year), so no one had to determine then whether to not allow players to play in games. You are such a liar.

Quotes from the Missoulian in a Florio article:

"The December 2010 allegations are being investigated under the Student Conduct Code. Although the woman — who suspected she was drugged before the alleged assault — went to the hospital and filed a police report immediately after the incident, no charges were filed. Police cited a lack of evidence, and notified Montana football coach Robin Pflugrad when their investigation was complete."

"The Missoula Police Department’s notification of Pflugrad about those allegations was referenced in the report Barz filed Jan. 31:

“Police provided limited information about allegations to a University employee. The situation was addressed with the students allegedly involved. UM does not have guidelines and procedures requiring reporting of information of the nature received in the manner this information was received.”

So you took the bait, you are claiming that a girl filed a report of gang rape by 4-6 football players and the head coach never knew anything of it until some time later when the police told him that they had no evidence of the report and were dropping their investigation, if that is the case then its "loss of institutional control" (ie the inmates are running the jail) and he should have been fired right then for not knowing what many others knew about his players possibly committing a felony.

otherwise you are lying like a lawyer :thumb:

I'm not saying that he knew from the police report, but he knew that some of his players were being investigated for a felony, like I said if he didnt then he is dumber that even I ever suspected and had no business ever being a DI head coach

You don't know what you're talking about (and obviously have zero actual facts) and are a huge liar.

From piecing things together, it looks like the police investigation didn't take long. The other woman at the house didn't support the allegations of the accuser. It looks like the accuser asked her friend to lie for her, but she wouldn't. The players told a completely different story. The apparent video apparently showed the accuser laughing and being into it. No one else knew of the incident. In fact, no one knew of the incident for a full year, as it didn't come to light in the media or rumor mill for a year.

You are an unbelievably dishonest person. You must also be just plain dumb. Feel free to keep making an idiot of yourself.

 

[poiuyter]

Didn't take long for the fighting to start.

But on a more serious note. I did not know about a video. Maybe I should view it and decide for myself.

 

[PlayerRep]

Didn't take long for the fighting to start.

But on a more serious note. I did not know about a video. Maybe I should view it and decide for myself.

From the jezebel.com article:

"She tells it like this: two best girlfriends got drunk with the team and took turns going around in a circle and giving the players blowjobs. One of the girls also had sex with one of the football players that night, and when her boyfriend caught wind of the affair, she said it was non-consensual. He convinced her to file a police report, but the County Attorney's Office decided not to prosecute, citing a lack of evidence. Tori thinks that's because her friend showed them the video, which depicted the girl excited and laughing. "In other words," Tori says, "She was into it."

 

[poiuyter]

I need to go back to college.

 

[Cats2506]

You don't know what you're talking about (and obviously have zero actual facts) and are a huge liar.

From piecing things together, it looks like the police investigation didn't take long. The other woman at the house didn't support the allegations of the accuser. It looks like the accuser asked her friend to lie for her, but she wouldn't. The players told a completely different story. The apparent video apparently showed the accuser laughing and being into it. No one else knew of the incident. In fact, no one knew of the incident for a full year, as it didn't come to light in the media or rumor mill for a year.

You are an unbelievably dishonest person. You must also be just plain dumb. Feel free to keep making an idiot of yourself.

So you are sticking with the defense that Pflu is and was totally incompetent and a bumbling fool, I personally wouldnt have gone with that but if it suits your current spin then have at it. :thumb:

 

[tnt]

It seems PR is getting the gang rapes confused......

 

[Washgrizfan1]

It seems PR is getting the gang rapes confused......

There weren't any gang rapes. The only one alleged was investigated by the police (twice) and university panel, and found not to be sexual assault.

 

[Sportin' Life]

It seems PR is getting the gang rapes confused......

There weren't any gang rapes. The only one alleged was investigated by the police (twice) and university panel, and found not to be sexual assault.

Wasn't there another allegation where the (alleged) victim completely stopped talking? That was the one that got the whole thing going if I remember rightly.

 

[tgreseth]

Can someone who speaks gibberish please translate what the hell 2506 is trying to say? Thank you.

http://www.articleclick.com/Article/How-to-Speak-Gibberish---It-can-be-Fun/1061466

Your welcome.

 

[Washgrizfan1]

It seems PR is getting the gang rapes confused......

There weren't any gang rapes. The only one alleged was investigated by the police (twice) and university panel, and found not to be sexual assault.

Wasn't there another allegation where the (alleged) victim completely stopped talking? That was the one that got the whole thing going if I remember rightly.

Yes, but that was more rumor than allegation, and was not referred to as gang rape. See the Missoulian article, and the Barz report. Nothing has come of these matters.

From the Barz report:

"8. December 2011: Report to UM employee of possible rape of student off campus by one or more students. Alcohol involved and possible drugs. Victim does not want to pursue. Investigation proceeding with limited information.

9. December 2011: Allegation by student of attempt to rape or sexually assault. Student initially came forward, but has since not returned calls or otherwise cooperated with UM’s investigation into the situation. Student reported to Missoula City Police. The investigation continues with limited information."

http://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-police-nd-attack-may-be-linked-to-alleged-sex/article_d261cb6e-2aca-11e1-9033-0019bb2963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[tnt]

There was that one, and I wouldn't bet on it being gone, but I was more thinking of the one here involving the same victims all over again.