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I doubt if Mayes or Vanderjagt will redshirt. I am not sure what the deal with Mayes is, but just seems like there are and have been some behind the scene things going on. He seems like a good guy. It just seems like he and MT are not a good fit. I believe he is sr now, and they need his scholarship.
As for Vanderjagt, he is a solid recruit for us. If we take good care of him, it opens doors to future Aussie recruits. Recent history is Aussie big men turn out to be well above average collegiate players. Bogut, and now Neville, with Utah too. Vanderjagt certainly has very intriguing tools to work with, and is very skilled. The only way he redshirts is if Tinks can sell him on being in the same class with next year's FR. We all know how good that class should be.
My guess right now is that Cox, Simms, and Groves will RS.
Staudacher's shooting will be a great option off the bench when we need a shooter.
Rundles- looks like the GRIZ want to get him seasoned for Ellis's departure and he is very good defensively.
Spurgettis- he is showing he can do more than anyone expected. He is still a non sholarship player and accepts any role he is given. That acceptance is huge for team chemistry. If he were to RS, with his work ethic being the way it is, he very well could get a scholarship in 08. Redshirt would mean 08 and 09. Doubt if the the GRIZ want to burn a future scholarship, and lose out on a potential recruit.
Other than injury redshirts, to me it would not make sense to RS any other players. Either way, the staffs' toughest decisions will be rotation and who to RS. GOOD LUCK Tinks, those choices will not be easy ones. :thumb:
 
I doubt if Mayes or Vanderjagt will redshirt. I am not sure what the deal with Mayes is, but just seems like there are and have been some behind the scene things going on. He seems like a good guy. It just seems like he and MT are not a good fit. I believe he is sr now, and they need his scholarship.
As for Vanderjagt, he is a solid recruit for us. If we take good care of him, it opens doors to future Aussie recruits. Recent history is Aussie big men turn out to be well above average collegiate players. Bogut, and now Neville, with Utah too. Vanderjagt certainly has very intriguing tools to work with, and is very skilled. The only way he redshirts is if Tinks can sell him on being in the same class with next year's FR. We all know how good that class should be.
My guess right now is that Cox, Simms, and Groves will RS.
Staudacher's shooting will be a great option off the bench when we need a shooter.
Rundles- looks like the GRIZ want to get him seasoned for Ellis's departure and he is very good defensively.
Spurgettis- he is showing he can do more than anyone expected. He is still a non sholarship player and accepts any role he is given. That acceptance is huge for team chemistry. If he were to RS, with his work ethic being the way it is, he very well could get a scholarship in 08. Redshirt would mean 08 and 09. Doubt if the the GRIZ want to burn a future scholarship, and lose out on a potential recruit.
Other than injury redshirts, to me it would not make sense to RS any other players. Either way, the staffs' toughest decisions will be rotation and who to RS. GOOD LUCK Tinks, those choices will not be easy ones. :thumb:
 
A lot of Aussie big guys fail too. MacLeod(or something like that) gave it a go at Gonzaga and failed miserably, eventually losing a schollie. There have been plenty of players in the Big West that did not turn out so hot too.

I think what it comes down to, is how bad does the guy want it. Aussie bigs have lots of skill, but are not immediatly fit to play American ball. However, when they put in the effort and time, they always become ridiculously good. I think Vanderjagt definitely has that potential.
 
The one thing Vanderjagt has going for him is that he is the only center on the whole team. Of course last year we didn't have one as well, but if they want a true center, he's the guy.
 
He is our only true 7 footer. As to if his skills are a true center, only time will tell. He handles the ball and shoots well from 3 (so I have been told). He may be able to play 3 or 4 too in time. 3 very unlikely though being Selvig will be a 3 and 4. I think Qvale may be more of true center, unless Vanderjagt commits himself to bulking up and playing physical. It is nice to have a big guy with potential and tools to have a discussion like this. I do agree, as for this years griz he is the closest we have to a true center.
 
Andrew Strait was an unanimous All-Big Sky selection at the center position. He feasted on other Big Sky centers. He feasted on the 6'11" All American center from Nevada (Fazekas). He is a true center. There is no rule that says a true center has to be 6'10" or bigger. Also, given our considerable depth at the post position, I think it wise to keep Andrew primarily as a 5. I really think Vanderjagt would greatly benefit from a redshirt year. :twocents:
 
GrizWhiz said:
Andrew Strait was an unanimous All-Big Sky selection at the center position. He feasted on other Big Sky centers. He feasted on the 6'11" All American center from Nevada (Fazekas). He is a true center. There is no rule that says a true center has to be 6'10" or bigger. Also, given our considerable depth at the post position, I think it wise to keep Andrew primarily as a 5. I really think Vanderjagt would greatly benefit from a redshirt year. :twocents:
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But he will not play in the NBA as a 4. Irrelavant to this season and next? probably...but I wouldnt call him a true center just yet.
 
Swilly3224 said:
GrizWhiz said:
Andrew Strait was an unanimous All-Big Sky selection at the center position. He feasted on other Big Sky centers. He feasted on the 6'11" All American center from Nevada (Fazekas). He is a true center. There is no rule that says a true center has to be 6'10" or bigger. Also, given our considerable depth at the post position, I think it wise to keep Andrew primarily as a 5. I really think Vanderjagt would greatly benefit from a redshirt year. :twocents:
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But he will not play in the NBA as a 4. Irrelavant to this season and next? probably...but I wouldnt call him a true center just yet.
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What does not playing in the NBA as a 4 have to do with anything?
 
GrizWhiz said:
Swilly3224 said:
GrizWhiz said:
Andrew Strait was an unanimous All-Big Sky selection at the center position. He feasted on other Big Sky centers. He feasted on the 6'11" All American center from Nevada (Fazekas). He is a true center. There is no rule that says a true center has to be 6'10" or bigger. Also, given our considerable depth at the post position, I think it wise to keep Andrew primarily as a 5. I really think Vanderjagt would greatly benefit from a redshirt year. :twocents:
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But he will not play in the NBA as a 5. Irrelavant to this season and next? probably...but I wouldnt call him a true center just yet.
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What does not playing in the NBA as a 4 have to do with anything?
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Im just saying he isnt a TRUE 5. He is going to be great this season but dont call him a true 5
 
Strait is a very good 5 man in the Big Sky. However, he's pretty small when it comes down to bigger conferences, I thought that was pretty apparent against BC. It should be interesting to see us compete in that Florida tourney, we might run into some big and athletic teams (We really need to beat West Virginia and move on to some better teams, we are better than them this year).

It's not so much the lack of height that limits Strait on offense, it's the lack of height that hurts us on defense against good teams. Nevada and BC had a fun time underneath the basket on offense.
 
I remember back in the '80s when the Idaho Vandals were rated at one time #6 in the AP Poll in mens' division one basketball. They didn't have one player over 6'6." I can't recall which year it was exactly; seems like the team that had a Kellerman & Evans though. I think they only averaged playing about six guys a game & had Don Monson as HC.
 
the first fallacy of debate is arguing from specifics. you could also cite john wooden's first ncaa championship team, where fred slaughter at 6'5" was the center on a team that also featured gail goodrich and walt hazzard. these were quick exceptional athletes, as were the idaho kids. i'd doubt you can find many other national championship teams that were that small.

problem was, we beat idaho in missoula that year, and they never did go on to fulfill their #6 ranking. i still say, we need more height and more muscle if we're to cope with the caliber of teams we'll be seeing these next few years, starting with west virginia in orlando on thanksgiving night. they'll have two seven-footers, and i think we're gonna be happy to have vanderjagt to match up against those guys.
 
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