Mark another one (more like 2) for Choate

[garizzalies]

Come on guys. Let's take the high road on this one.


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:lol: reminds me of that scene from Me Myself and Irene:
"Take it easy, fellas....she's a mom.
....
BWAHAHA"

 

[SeattleBobcat]

How does it have anything to do with the coach? Is it Choads fault? Certainly not but it is ultimately his responsibility (Same as Stitt, Hauk to or anyone else) to instill in his student athletes noggings this crap isn't acceptable. If it doesn't have anything to do with the coach why might their job be on the line when things like this (and worse) begin to occur more frequently?

With that said, shit happens....yes hard to keep tabs on all the kids but I certainly feel it's the coaching staffs responsibility, and especially the head coach to limit these things.

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

 

[SeattleBobcat]

Choache Choach showing again how he runs a team. Didn't a bunch of the secondary just get sentenced to prison for peddling drugs? Maybe I read it wrong, but the win at all chosts mentality over there is starting to rear its ugly chead.

Really? Well if that's true then they're in serious trouble, especially if Murray does end up being academically ineligible.

What's the story with Murray? I had not heard anything about potential issues

There is no story with Murray other than malicious rumors. Also not sure how this is part of Choate's culture when Lasane is a Ash recruit.

 

[EverettGriz]

Choache Choach showing again how he runs a team. Didn't a bunch of the secondary just get sentenced to prison for peddling drugs? Maybe I read it wrong, but the win at all chosts mentality over there is starting to rear its ugly chead.

Really? Well if that's true then they're in serious trouble, especially if Murray does end up being academically ineligible.

What's the story with Murray? I had not heard anything about potential issues

There is no story with Murray other than malicious rumors. Also not sure how this is part of Choate's culture when Lasane is a Ash recruit.

Not entirely true. Murray does have to pass courses in the summer session to be eligible.

 

[signedbewildered]

How does it have anything to do with the coach? Is it Choads fault? Certainly not but it is ultimately his responsibility (Same as Stitt, Hauk to or anyone else) to instill in his student athletes noggings this crap isn't acceptable. If it doesn't have anything to do with the coach why might their job be on the line when things like this (and worse) begin to occur more frequently?

With that said, shit happens....yes hard to keep tabs on all the kids but I certainly feel it's the coaching staffs responsibility, and especially the head coach to limit these things.

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

I agree. Although there are things a leader can do and it starts with being very selective when you are recruiting student athletes., Weather it be a HS player of a college transfer.

Constant reminders of representing with integrity the brand they stand for couldn't hurt. There is a lot of things a coach can do and I don't mean to imply Choad hasn't done everything within his means to keep his players off of the front page.

If you read again my original post what I was getting at is yes.....these things happen even when the staff is doing everything right. If they begin to happen on a regular basis (and I don't mean to imply they are in Bozemen) it's possible some adjustments to be made on how the coaches keeps tabs on the kids and what I expected of them when they are not suited up.

Most Griz fans main gripe about Hauk? See what I am getting at? At least many here believe he would not be hired again by the UofM for the sole reason his players seemed to have what felt like pretty frequently off the field issues.

Wasn't his responsibility right? Kids will be kids...or young adults I guess.

Furthermore I'm not certain Murray's head is above water 100% quite yet. Looking forward to seeing him tear it up this year.

 

[bigsky33]

How does it have anything to do with the coach? Is it Choads fault? Certainly not but it is ultimately his responsibility (Same as Stitt, Hauk to or anyone else) to instill in his student athletes noggings this crap isn't acceptable. If it doesn't have anything to do with the coach why might their job be on the line when things like this (and worse) begin to occur more frequently?

With that said, shit happens....yes hard to keep tabs on all the kids but I certainly feel it's the coaching staffs responsibility, and especially the head coach to limit these things.

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

I agree. Although there are things a leader can do and it starts with being very selective when you are recruiting student athletes., Weather it be a HS player of a college transfer.

Constant reminders of representing with integrity the brand they stand for couldn't hurt. There is a lot of things a coach can do and I don't mean to imply Choad hasn't done everything within his means to keep his players off of the front page.

If you read again my original post what I was getting at is yes.....these things happen even when the staff is doing everything right. If they begin to happen on a regular basis (and I don't mean to imply they are in Bozemen) it's possible some adjustments to be made on how the coaches keeps tabs on the kids and what I expected of them when they are not suited up.

Most Griz fans main gripe about Hauk? See what I am getting at? At least many here believe he would not be hired again by the UofM for the sole reason his players seemed to have what felt like pretty frequently off the field issues.

Wasn't his responsibility right? Kids will be kids...or young adults I guess.

Furthermore I'm not certain Murray's head is above water 100% quite yet. Looking forward to seeing him tear it up this year.

LaSane is an Ash recruit. Also, the coaching staffs at both schools work extremely hard pounding away on these young men on not getting into these situations. It only takes one to screw things up.


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[signedbewildered]

Sorry. I know this wasn't the current coaches recruit and I didn't say he wasn't doing everything he could since he has been there to instill a sense of pride and moral values. My original reply was to a comment about how this is out of the coaches hands and not their responsibility when ultimately, I feel they are the ones to be blamed and must at the very least share the responsibility of these things are reoccurring and frequent. I'm talking in general terms.

I think Stitt has done fairly well keeping noses clean. If there were a bunch of issues I'd be the first to be bitching about him doing something wrong in that department....now if he can get the winning thing down.

 

[bigsky33]

Sorry. I know this wasn't the current coaches recruit and I didn't say he wasn't doing everything he could since he has been there to instill a sense of pride and moral values. My original reply was to a comment about how this is out of the coaches hands and not their responsibility when ultimately, I feel they are the ones to be blamed and must at the very least share the responsibility of these things are reoccurring and frequent. I'm talking in general terms.

I think Stitt has done fairly well keeping noses clean. If there were a bunch of issues I'd be the first to be bitching about him doing something wrong in that department....now if he can get the winning thing down.

They are not frequent at either school.


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[Ursa Major]

How does it have anything to do with the coach? Is it Choads fault? Certainly not but it is ultimately his responsibility (Same as Stitt, Hauk to or anyone else) to instill in his student athletes noggings this crap isn't acceptable. If it doesn't have anything to do with the coach why might their job be on the line when things like this (and worse) begin to occur more frequently?

With that said, shit happens....yes hard to keep tabs on all the kids but I certainly feel it's the coaching staffs responsibility, and especially the head coach to limit these things.

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

I agree. Although there are things a leader can do and it starts with being very selective when you are recruiting student athletes., Weather it be a HS player of a college transfer.

Constant reminders of representing with integrity the brand they stand for couldn't hurt. There is a lot of things a coach can do and I don't mean to imply Choad hasn't done everything within his means to keep his players off of the front page.

If you read again my original post what I was getting at is yes.....these things happen even when the staff is doing everything right. If they begin to happen on a regular basis (and I don't mean to imply they are in Bozemen) it's possible some adjustments to be made on how the coaches keeps tabs on the kids and what I expected of them when they are not suited up.

Most Griz fans main gripe about Hauk? See what I am getting at? At least many here believe he would not be hired again by the UofM for the sole reason his players seemed to have what felt like pretty frequently off the field issues.

Wasn't his responsibility right? Kids will be kids...or young adults I guess.

Furthermore I'm not certain Murray's head is above water 100% quite yet. Looking forward to seeing him tear it up this year.

LaSane is an Ash recruit. Also, the coaching staffs at both schools work extremely hard pounding away on these young men on not getting into these situations. It only takes one to screw things up.


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You Judas msu bastards love to try and pin everthing bad on Ron Ash. Is it the magical hair? The stylish triple pleats? The fact that no prophet is ever accepted in his own land?
There is only one thing for sure, You won't have Ron Ash to kick around anymore.

 

[signedbewildered]

Sorry. I know this wasn't the current coaches recruit and I didn't say he wasn't doing everything he could since he has been there to instill a sense of pride and moral values. My original reply was to a comment about how this is out of the coaches hands and not their responsibility when ultimately, I feel they are the ones to be blamed and must at the very least share the responsibility of these things are reoccurring and frequent. I'm talking in general terms.

I think Stitt has done fairly well keeping noses clean. If there were a bunch of issues I'd be the first to be bitching about him doing something wrong in that department....now if he can get the winning thing down.

They are not frequent at either school.


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I agree.

 

[George Ferguson]

How does it have anything to do with the coach? Is it Choads fault? Certainly not but it is ultimately his responsibility (Same as Stitt, Hauk to or anyone else) to instill in his student athletes noggings this crap isn't acceptable. If it doesn't have anything to do with the coach why might their job be on the line when things like this (and worse) begin to occur more frequently?

With that said, shit happens....yes hard to keep tabs on all the kids but I certainly feel it's the coaching staffs responsibility, and especially the head coach to limit these things.

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

Absolutely agree with every word you said. As long is it ALWAYS apllies to Griz coaches when players get in trouble, and, as long as it also applies to the notion that at both schools, the mandatory punishment is NO LONGER in the coaches hands. Yes, we're all aware that coaches can go above and beyond, but when Strahm serves his suspension for the Valpo game, and I believe another quarter of the Washington game, MSU fans (because they're already saying it on BN) will say the Griz serve suspensions against Cupcakes. And, if you believe what you typed above, then you know that is total B-----SIIT. Every Griz player I've ever seen serve a suspension was the NEXT game or games following the infraction. Because that's how it's SUPPOSED TO BE.

 

[VimSince03]

You do realize there are periods where the coaching staff can't interact with players at all, it makes it kind of tough to keep tabs on them. Plus all these kids are now adults and responsible for they're own asses.

I agree. Although there are things a leader can do and it starts with being very selective when you are recruiting student athletes., Weather it be a HS player of a college transfer.

Constant reminders of representing with integrity the brand they stand for couldn't hurt. There is a lot of things a coach can do and I don't mean to imply Choad hasn't done everything within his means to keep his players off of the front page.

If you read again my original post what I was getting at is yes.....these things happen even when the staff is doing everything right. If they begin to happen on a regular basis (and I don't mean to imply they are in Bozemen) it's possible some adjustments to be made on how the coaches keeps tabs on the kids and what I expected of them when they are not suited up.

Most Griz fans main gripe about Hauk? See what I am getting at? At least many here believe he would not be hired again by the UofM for the sole reason his players seemed to have what felt like pretty frequently off the field issues.

Wasn't his responsibility right? Kids will be kids...or young adults I guess.

Furthermore I'm not certain Murray's head is above water 100% quite yet. Looking forward to seeing him tear it up this year.

LaSane is an Ash recruit. Also, the coaching staffs at both schools work extremely hard pounding away on these young men on not getting into these situations. It only takes one to screw things up.


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You Judas msu bastards love to try and pin everthing bad on Ron Ash. Is it the magical hair? The stylish triple pleats? The fact that no prophet is ever accepted in his own land?
There is only one thing for sure, You won't have Ron Ash to kick around anymore.

Nick LaSane is a Rob Ash recruit with an extremely clean record up until this summer. Again, you can't expect a 5th-year senior to make these stupid mistakes, especially if they are going to be one of the leaders of the team. Saying Nick is a "bad-apple" because he's a Rob Ash recruit is complete bogus. Let's not make this more than what it is guys. Nick will serve his suspension and then try to move back up the depth chart when he returns. Like Strahm, he made a mistake, will face the consequences, and try to make an impact his final year of college ball.

 

[tgreseth]

I agree. Although there are things a leader can do and it starts with being very selective when you are recruiting student athletes., Weather it be a HS player of a college transfer.

Constant reminders of representing with integrity the brand they stand for couldn't hurt. There is a lot of things a coach can do and I don't mean to imply Choad hasn't done everything within his means to keep his players off of the front page.

If you read again my original post what I was getting at is yes.....these things happen even when the staff is doing everything right. If they begin to happen on a regular basis (and I don't mean to imply they are in Bozemen) it's possible some adjustments to be made on how the coaches keeps tabs on the kids and what I expected of them when they are not suited up.

Most Griz fans main gripe about Hauk? See what I am getting at? At least many here believe he would not be hired again by the UofM for the sole reason his players seemed to have what felt like pretty frequently off the field issues.

Wasn't his responsibility right? Kids will be kids...or young adults I guess.

Furthermore I'm not certain Murray's head is above water 100% quite yet. Looking forward to seeing him tear it up this year.

LaSane is an Ash recruit. Also, the coaching staffs at both schools work extremely hard pounding away on these young men on not getting into these situations. It only takes one to screw things up.


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You Judas msu bastards love to try and pin everthing bad on Ron Ash. Is it the magical hair? The stylish triple pleats? The fact that no prophet is ever accepted in his own land?
There is only one thing for sure, You won't have Ron Ash to kick around anymore.

Nick LaSane is a Rob Ash recruit with an extremely clean record up until this summer. Again, you can't expect a 5th-year senior to make these stupid mistakes, especially if they are going to be one of the leaders of the team. Saying Nick is a "bad-apple" because he's a Rob Ash recruit is complete bogus. Let's not make this more than what it is guys. Nick will serve his suspension and then try to move back up the depth chart when he returns. Like Strahm, he made a mistake, will face the consequences, and try to make an impact his final year of college ball.

*Ron

 

[Ursa Major]

LaSane is an Ash recruit. Also, the coaching staffs at both schools work extremely hard pounding away on these young men on not getting into these situations. It only takes one to screw things up.


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You Judas msu bastards love to try and pin everthing bad on Ron Ash. Is it the magical hair? The stylish triple pleats? The fact that no prophet is ever accepted in his own land?
There is only one thing for sure, You won't have Ron Ash to kick around anymore.

Nick LaSane is a Rob Ash recruit with an extremely clean record up until this summer. Again, you can't expect a 5th-year senior to make these stupid mistakes, especially if they are going to be one of the leaders of the team. Saying Nick is a "bad-apple" because he's a Rob Ash recruit is complete bogus. Let's not make this more than what it is guys. Nick will serve his suspension and then try to move back up the depth chart when he returns. Like Strahm, he made a mistake, will face the consequences, and try to make an impact his final year of college ball.

*Ron

:lol:

 

[bigsky33]

You Judas msu bastards love to try and pin everthing bad on Ron Ash. Is it the magical hair? The stylish triple pleats? The fact that no prophet is ever accepted in his own land?
There is only one thing for sure, You won't have Ron Ash to kick around anymore.

Nick LaSane is a Rob Ash recruit with an extremely clean record up until this summer. Again, you can't expect a 5th-year senior to make these stupid mistakes, especially if they are going to be one of the leaders of the team. Saying Nick is a "bad-apple" because he's a Rob Ash recruit is complete bogus. Let's not make this more than what it is guys. Nick will serve his suspension and then try to move back up the depth chart when he returns. Like Strahm, he made a mistake, will face the consequences, and try to make an impact his final year of college ball.

*Ron

:lol:

It was only mentioned that he was an Ash recruit because someone else inferred he was a Choate recruit. It was no shot at Ash. LaSane has had no previous violations. He has always been a hard worker and good recruit up until this happened. I agree with your post Bjorn.


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[CDAGRIZ]

You guys are crazy. Just because Ron Ash recruited him doesn't make this any less Choachoate's fault. Notice that this kid had no issues when Ron was steering the ship. Hmmm. Choachoate has changed the culture of that program and I, for one, am glad Ron isn't around to have to see it. RIP in peace.

 

[SeattleBobcat]

You guys are crazy. Just because Ron Ash recruited him doesn't make this any less Choachoate's fault. Notice that this kid had no issues when Ron was steering the ship. Hmmm. Choachoate has changed the culture of that program and I, for one, am glad Ron isn't around to have to see it. RIP in peace.

I'm just glad Ron never existed.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You guys are crazy. Just because Ron Ash recruited him doesn't make this any less Choachoate's fault. Notice that this kid had no issues when Ron was steering the ship. Hmmm. Choachoate has changed the culture of that program and I, for one, am glad Ron isn't around to have to see it. RIP in peace.

I'm just glad Ron never existed.

Ha! I hear that. A good friend of mine is a cat fan and he has said more than once that he wants to forget Ash's entire tenure in Bozeman. I guess if you deny that he ever was, maybe he wasn't ever. I didn't mind him. He seemed nice enough, but I don't think I'd really trust him. He kinda had that weird vibe about him, like the one uncle who never married and has too many guitars and knows a lot about Thailand.

 

[snap]

You guys are crazy. Just because Ron Ash recruited him doesn't make this any less Choachoate's fault. Notice that this kid had no issues when Ron was steering the ship. Hmmm. Choachoate has changed the culture of that program and I, for one, am glad Ron isn't around to have to see it. RIP in peace.

I'm just glad Ron never existed.

Ha! I hear that. A good friend of mine is a cat fan and he has said more than once that he wants to forget Ash's entire tenure in Bozeman. I guess if you deny that he ever was, maybe he wasn't ever. I didn't mind him. He seemed nice enough, but I don't think I'd really trust him. He kinda had that weird vibe about him, like the one uncle who never married and has too many guitars and knows a lot about Thailand.

:lol: CDA is already in mid-season form.

 

[Allezchat]

Every Griz player I've ever seen serve a suspension was the NEXT game or games following the infraction. Because that's how it's SUPPOSED TO BE.

You are absolutely right, as of late. However, there have been past instances under previous coaches where the cupcake game was 3/4's of the way through the season and that is the one the player sat for after he got in trouble before the season started. I don't remember the player or the team the griz played. I want to say a little Oregon school.

I realize that I can't argue that point if I choose to say that Lasane was an Ash recruit, so I hope you realize I'm not arguing about something that a previous coach did when Stitt is your current head coach. I'm just pointing out that not every griz player has served a suspension the very next game in the last decade. Under Stitt, yes, its been the next game.