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Let's talk Fall camp, offense first
- Thread starter BWahlberg
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kemajic said:
JMU couldn’t find their butts with both hands with the ball in the first quarter, ran for over 300, most of that after the half, 9-13 on 3rd down & had the ball for almost 37 minutes. Ochs was on fire no doubt & nobody was a bigger fan of #7 than me, but he also threw the interception that ended the game.
Montana ran for 2,600 yards that season, a solid four yards a carry, with 30 TD’s. My point was that it would be great to have a real rushing game to go along with a good QB. Because if you think Sneed is going to put them on his back like Ochs did down the stretch, without a running game this season, you’re going to be very disappointed.
So, it is possible 2/8 of the offensive linemen listed by BW never see the field this season? The Griz have young o-linemen pushing upperclassmen for playing time despite the belief that more time in a program generates improvement...
The bottom line is the Griz Offense will be as good as the offensive line allows. There is no evidence there will be improvement to the unit this season. None. The unit was under recruited and wrongly recruited for going on 5 seasons or more.
I get the positive attitude...hope and desire for excellence. But, there is a reason the coaches and media picked the Griz where they did...schedule and under skilled and unproven offensive line.
I think the offense will be good enough when paired with the defense, which I do think will be better than last season.
Success to me will be...a chance for the playoffs with a brawl win.
The bottom line is the Griz Offense will be as good as the offensive line allows. There is no evidence there will be improvement to the unit this season. None. The unit was under recruited and wrongly recruited for going on 5 seasons or more.
I get the positive attitude...hope and desire for excellence. But, there is a reason the coaches and media picked the Griz where they did...schedule and under skilled and unproven offensive line.
I think the offense will be good enough when paired with the defense, which I do think will be better than last season.
Success to me will be...a chance for the playoffs with a brawl win.
I am cautiously optimistic about oline due to the fact of the 2 transfers. My gut tells me they will both be playing 1st team by mid season after watching their demeanor and agility on tape. I have more confidence in them than in some returners despite another year in weight room and coaches by the staff. I still see an issue at tackle however unless a redshirt freshman has made the step up during offseason to replace someone who played last year.
RB wise still concerned but feel better with Knight on board.
QB. Good shape 2 deep
WR. Very good shape
TE. Will be serviceable
FB. Don't see them using one again, just sliding a TE in on occasion
RB wise still concerned but feel better with Knight on board.
QB. Good shape 2 deep
WR. Very good shape
TE. Will be serviceable
FB. Don't see them using one again, just sliding a TE in on occasion
mtgrizrule
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SoldierGriz said:
I too was thinking along those lines, then I spoke to Hauck at the Ronan GSA tournament. Hauck sounded much more confident, when discussing the OL, than he sounded last season. Hauck may not tell us a lot, as for a lot of words. It is more in how he addresses things when speaking to fans or the media. I just sensed more confidence in his tone and mannerisms, than I did last year. Maybe Colter can expand on this. He seems to very good at reading between in the lines, when it comes to Hauck.
I am hoping, my read on Hauck's OL will play out to be accurate.
AZGrizFan said:
In Hauck's offence last year I think Bingham caught 12 in 11 games. Rensvold had about a catch a game and the Deming kid went 10 for about 140. Part of that is scheme, they had to stay in to block, and part of that is RPO play books don't wait for TE development plays. Bingham had 24 for 282 and 3 TD's under Stitt. These are all good kids and good players but the idea that they make up some sort of three headed hydra that is going to dominate has yet to be seen.
AZGrizFan said:
LOL, 35-45 catches. The TE position might get 2-3 catches per game, and all 3 will play quite a bit, meaning there is no way one of them gets anywhere close to 35. I am also not even sure Bingham is the best of the 3.
Down 10, it wasn't really the int that ended the game; it was already over. He also threw the would-be first half TD pass, which would have been 4, that Talmadge dropped all alone in the EZ.bgbigdog said:
JMU was bigger and better on both sides of the line of scrimmage. We were better at the skill positions, but the chunks of sod somewhat negated that. As did the bad OB call on the kick return that went to the house. A bigger lead at the half would not have allowed JMU to just pound it down our throat. Like what Sneed dealt with last year, we were unable to run the ball.
That's why it was so fine to go into their house in the '08 Semis and kick their undefeated #1 butt.
WaGriz4life
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All three are studs and would start for nearly every other Big Sky team. All three are ass kickers who can block and catch. Almost as talented as our receivers.AZGrizFan said:
rocklobster
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2. Running back was one position that I just didn't have the "warm fuzzies" with after spring ball. I believe Eastwood will show improvement with experience and I've seen that Knight has a good top gear and brings a good change of pace to the backfield. However I just don't see a "feature back" in this group. Concerned about Eastwood's overall agility/ability to get through the line and into the next level with good frequency and I'm concerned about Knight's ball security. Not meaning to knock these two guys and they're probably going to prove me wrong, haha. I still want to see Graves here, I just loved what he brought to the offense as a running back.
I agree about Graves. Love to see him step up as that power back! Also think Janacaro and Turner will be in the mix. Between the speed backs and the power backs, I think we'll have a great season, if the offensive line is improved. Running back by committee is fine with me. It'll take some pressure off Sneed, and allow us to control the clock more; which in turn will allow the defense some time off the field, and allow us to possibly hold on to some of the leads late in the game. Also will open it up on the outside, pulling the linebackers and safeties up, giving the receivers some single coverage. This could be in an incredible season!
I agree about Graves. Love to see him step up as that power back! Also think Janacaro and Turner will be in the mix. Between the speed backs and the power backs, I think we'll have a great season, if the offensive line is improved. Running back by committee is fine with me. It'll take some pressure off Sneed, and allow us to control the clock more; which in turn will allow the defense some time off the field, and allow us to possibly hold on to some of the leads late in the game. Also will open it up on the outside, pulling the linebackers and safeties up, giving the receivers some single coverage. This could be in an incredible season!
PlayerRep said:
With what they started with, there was only one direction open to them, UP. The season ended with the OL getting blown up, and Eastwood fumbling. That fact alone assures improvement from that point. I doubt the coaches will let anyone forget that moment.
