Let's talk Fall camp, offense first

[RayWill]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

 

[mtgrizrule]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

Sneed was inconsistent BECAUSE the OL was inconsistent. I agree with your analysis and conclusions. :thumb: I have high expectations for this team.

Yay, a football conversation, finally!!!!

Offensively, I really am not worried at all. The offensive line can only improve from last season. That unit is a lot deeper this season as well. Their performance is the biggest key between the GRIZ having a great offense or elite offense. Even a little improvement, will mean a few more W's.

The WR's are the team's best strength, in terms of talent and depth. They and Sneed help one another. Akem is one of the top WR's in the nation. I feel he is a legitimate FCS All American, with NFL upside. JLM, Sulser, and Flowers are open field playmakers. Toure has been inconsistent. IF he finds consistency in his game, this offense will be even better. TE's are deep and talented. I love the upside of Bingham for his SR season. I hope he can have a healthy SR season.

I too am not really sure what to think of our RB's. I believe their struggles were more on the OL than the RB talent. Also, Eastwood was playing hurt the majority of last season. I really am hoping, Turner will be given an opportunity. I really love what he can bring to the team, if fully recovered from injury. Janacaro is tough as nails, and likely the best blocker of this group. Marcus Knight showed some great signs this spring. When the OL did its job, Knight looked the part of a lead back. He also looks to be the most versatile. I really am not sure of his blocking ability though. Also, I expect the likes of Sulser, JLM, and Flowers to be running the ball on fly sweeps and reverses more often. If it were me, I'd be playing Flowers everywhere on the field.

I saved the best for last. QB, Dalton Sneed. I love everything he brings to this team. He throws a nice ball, he runs well, he is smart, he is tough, and he possess championship caliber leadership. I would go to war with him anytime. I would run through brick wall after brick wall for him, as a teammate. Yes, the 1st half of last season, I got upset with him a few times. However, the 2nd half of last season, I honestly felt he had more confidence in his teammates, and he was just letting the game come to him. He cut down on his mistakes, and emerged as a true QB and leader. I wanted last season to continue, just to see Sneed to continue to grow as a QB and leader. With an improved OL and more time to gel with his WR's, he too can be a legitimate All American candidate.

Overall, I feel it is very realistic to have very high expectations of this offense this season. Will the OL be average to good, or will they be great or better? If it is the latter, GRIZ NATION will be very happy with this offense. #playoffrun

 

[BWahlberg]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

Agreed. The PSU game was probably his “low point” of the season. From both spring and fall camp last year to the season he seemed to be a guy who was continually benefitting from being able to build off errors and keep improving. If that’s the case he should have a stellar senior year (which is what I expect)

 

[Copper Griz]

The Sneed conversation is an interesting one. Given that he transferred in from a JC to a program with no offensive line, he did a very good job. The transfer comment is referring to how much faster the game is when stepping up to D1. Yes, he had experience at UNLV, but his passing stats there were not stellar. I would say last year was a good transition year and allowed him to get comfortable with the system. He had solid stats. My biggest knock on him was the failure to check off to his number 2 or 3 option. Obviously pressure and getting knocked around frequently probably had a lot do with that. My hope is that he gets more time this year and the offense has a balanced attack. Then we can really see how good he and this team are. The Griz receivers are the best in the Big Sky collectively. Speed, size and athleticism are off the charts. I would really like to see them unleash an a$$ kicking on the competition this year.

 

[tourist]

Yay, a football conversation, finally!!!!

As a Griz fan, its been like a long ride, in the trunk of an old car, down a bumpy gravel road. That shit is OVER! I think we are at the dawn of something special.
Many years ago there was an Australian Rules Football coach, who, at one of the events prior to the Grand Final, said(paraphrasing), "There are those who make things happen, those to whom things happen, and those who say 'What happened?'"
Bobby is in the first category. :thumb:

 

[bgbigdog]

The Sneed conversation is an interesting one. Given that he transferred in from a JC to a program with no offensive line, he did a very good job. The transfer comment is referring to how much faster the game is when stepping up to D1. Yes, he had experience at UNLV, but his passing stats there were not stellar. I would say last year was a good transition year and allowed him to get comfortable with the system. He had solid stats. My biggest knock on him was the failure to check off to his number 2 or 3 option. Obviously pressure and getting knocked around frequently probably had a lot do with that. My hope is that he gets more time this year and the offense has a balanced attack. Then we can really see how good he and this team are. The Griz receivers are the best in the Big Sky collectively. Speed, size and athleticism are off the charts. I would really like to see them unleash an a$$ kicking on the competition this year.

If he isn’t the primary rushing option and gets time to throw, he’ll be better. None of the skill guys will be consistently effective without good to great o-line play.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

Sneed was inconsistent BECAUSE the OL was inconsistent. I agree with your analysis and conclusions. :thumb:I have high expectations for this team.

Me too.

Don’t we all...every year?

 

[horribilisfan8184]

The best D linemen in the NFL routinely complement the all pro O linemen they face in practice for upping their game. Can we expect better D line play if the O line is much improved?

 

[bgbigdog]

Yay, a football conversation, finally!!!!

As a Griz fan, its been like a long ride, in the trunk of an old car, down a bumpy gravel road. That shit is OVER! I think we are at the dawn of something special.
Many years ago there was an Australian Rules Football coach, who, at one of the events prior to the Grand Final, said(paraphrasing), "There are those who make things happen, those to whom things happen, and those who say 'What happened?'"
Bobby is in the first category. :thumb:

Was it an old Cadillac @ least?

 

[tourist]

Hard to say, it was so dark in there....
Back in the day when eGriz started, there was football to talk about for FOUR MONTHS. Along comes Royce and POOF! it became a three month sport, then nine months of bitching/moaning on eGriz. I am looking forward to reading four months of football discussion. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

I don't agree. Didn't happen much.

 

[PlayerRep]

The Sneed conversation is an interesting one. Given that he transferred in from a JC to a program with no offensive line, he did a very good job. The transfer comment is referring to how much faster the game is when stepping up to D1. Yes, he had experience at UNLV, but his passing stats there were not stellar. I would say last year was a good transition year and allowed him to get comfortable with the system. He had solid stats. My biggest knock on him was the failure to check off to his number 2 or 3 option. Obviously pressure and getting knocked around frequently probably had a lot do with that. My hope is that he gets more time this year and the offense has a balanced attack. Then we can really see how good he and this team are. The Griz receivers are the best in the Big Sky collectively. Speed, size and athleticism are off the charts. I would really like to see them unleash an a$$ kicking on the competition this year.

Sneed had good stats. 2d highest completion percentage in conference behind Maier. 3d in conference in passing yards and average. 4th in passing TD's. Down a bit in efficiency, but only a few percentage points below Maier. Only 7 interceptions, tied for lowest among qb's who threw, as well as Anderson. I think I figured out before that he was 2d in fewest interceptions per throw, slightly below someone, maybe Maier. 2d in total offense. Nice running stats and average. All with a modest o-line and mediocre running game.

 

[kemajic]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

I don't agree. Didn't happen much.

It happens occasionally with every great QB; remember Gubrud in the first half against UM in 2017? I agree it didn't happen more often with Sneed than with other great QBs.

 

[bgbigdog]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

Agreed. The PSU game was probably his “low point” of the season. From both spring and fall camp last year to the season he seemed to be a guy who was continually benefitting from being able to build off errors and keep improving. If that’s the case he should have a stellar senior year (which is what I expect)

Sneed’s demeanor would lead me to believe that he can be overly amped at times. I would also point to the body-blows he took and the toll it take’s on his arms - those of you who boxed know what I’m talking about. The rush in his face caused any number of “back foot throws” witness the first pass to the end zone for Toure in the second TD drive in the UNI game. All of those factors will contribute to sailing the ball.

This kid is a competitor. And if they get the growth/performance everyone hopes for from the o-line, they’ll be in every game. Nothing is more important on that side of the ball this season.

 

[AZGrizFan]

lol yes I saw the shots he took, and I agree the guy is tough as hell and I’m damn glad he’s our starting QB. Also saw some games like PSU and the 2nd halves of UCD and MSU where turnovers and inconsistent passing could’ve maaaaybe changed the game. Now it’s not all on him, the guy was playing his heart out with a patchwork OL, however, there were some glaring spots last year where if he would have been more consistent to top level play, the Griz might have had another win or two. And yes, that goes for more players too than just Sneed.

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

I don't agree. Didn't happen much.

It happens occasionally with every great QB; remember Gubrud in the first half against UM in 2017? I agree it didn't happen more often with Sneed than with other great QBs.

No shit. Our D went from looking like world beaters to looking like EWU was playing Drummond in the 2nd half.

 

[PlayerRep]

"4. I want to see more consistency from Sneed. We've beat this dead horse about good Sneed vs bad Sneed from last year, if we can see far more "good Sneed" we'll see a far more efficient offense."

He was really good last year the majority of the time. It is hard to play QB position when you are on your back or under so much pressure. He bailed the Griz offense out with his legs every week. The teams leading rusher not necessarily by design but out of necessity. Besides that he throws a great ball and is tough as nails. Did you see the shots he took last year? He is as good a QB as the Griz have had in quite awhile. The offensive line will be better this year and with that he is going to be a stud this year.

Sneed was inconsistent BECAUSE the OL was inconsistent. I agree with your analysis and conclusions. :thumb: I have high expectations for this team.

Yay, a football conversation, finally!!!!

Offensively, I really am not worried at all. The offensive line can only improve from last season. That unit is a lot deeper this season as well. Their performance is the biggest key between the GRIZ having a great offense or elite offense. Even a little improvement, will mean a few more W's.

The WR's are the team's best strength, in terms of talent and depth. They and Sneed help one another. Akem is one of the top WR's in the nation. I feel he is a legitimate FCS All American, with NFL upside. JLM, Sulser, and Flowers are open field playmakers. Toure has been inconsistent. IF he finds consistency in his game, this offense will be even better. TE's are deep and talented. I love the upside of Bingham for his SR season. I hope he can have a healthy SR season.

I too am not really sure what to think of our RB's. I believe their struggles were more on the OL than the RB talent. Also, Eastwood was playing hurt the majority of last season. I really am hoping, Turner will be given an opportunity. I really love what he can bring to the team, if fully recovered from injury. Janacaro is tough as nails, and likely the best blocker of this group. Marcus Knight showed some great signs this spring. When the OL did its job, Knight looked the part of a lead back. He also looks to be the most versatile. I really am not sure of his blocking ability though. Also, I expect the likes of Sulser, JLM, and Flowers to be running the ball on fly sweeps and reverses more often. If it were me, I'd be playing Flowers everywhere on the field.

I saved the best for last. QB, Dalton Sneed. I love everything he brings to this team. He throws a nice ball, he runs well, he is smart, he is tough, and he possess championship caliber leadership. I would go to war with him anytime. I would run through brick wall after brick wall for him, as a teammate. Yes, the 1st half of last season, I got upset with him a few times. However, the 2nd half of last season, I honestly felt he had more confidence in his teammates, and he was just letting the game come to him. He cut down on his mistakes, and emerged as a true QB and leader. I wanted last season to continue, just to see Sneed to continue to grow as a QB and leader. With an improved OL and more time to gel with his WR's, he too can be a legitimate All American candidate.

Overall, I feel it is very realistic to have very high expectations of this offense this season. Will the OL be average to good, or will they be great or better? If it is the latter, GRIZ NATION will be very happy with this offense. #playoffrun

Nice post and analysis. I agree. I hope your analysis is correct.

 

[uofmman1122]

There were plenty of times too even when the O line did there job and he had wide open receivers he would just sail them. Although that seemed to improve as the season went some.

I don't agree. Didn't happen much.

It happens occasionally with every great QB; remember Gubrud in the first half against UM in 2017? I agree it didn't happen more often with Sneed than with other great QBs.

No shit. Our D went from looking like world beaters to looking like EWU was playing Drummond in the 2nd half.

If I never have to think about that game again, it’ll be too soon.

 

[Copper Griz]

The Sneed conversation is an interesting one. Given that he transferred in from a JC to a program with no offensive line, he did a very good job. The transfer comment is referring to how much faster the game is when stepping up to D1. Yes, he had experience at UNLV, but his passing stats there were not stellar. I would say last year was a good transition year and allowed him to get comfortable with the system. He had solid stats. My biggest knock on him was the failure to check off to his number 2 or 3 option. Obviously pressure and getting knocked around frequently probably had a lot do with that. My hope is that he gets more time this year and the offense has a balanced attack. Then we can really see how good he and this team are. The Griz receivers are the best in the Big Sky collectively. Speed, size and athleticism are off the charts. I would really like to see them unleash an a$$ kicking on the competition this year.

Sneed had good stats. 2d highest completion percentage in conference behind Maier. 3d in conference in passing yards and average. 4th in passing TD's. Down a bit in efficiency, but only a few percentage points below Maier. Only 7 interceptions, tied for lowest among qb's who threw, as well as Anderson. I think I figured out before that he was 2d in fewest interceptions per throw, slightly below someone, maybe Maier. 2d in total offense. Nice running stats and average. All with a modest o-line and mediocre running game.

Yep, he had to shoulder quite a load and did so as a true leader would. Kept upbeat and positive. I am excited for this year and hopefully he gets some protection. I think his stats could be even better if he goes to a second or third option at times. He also has one heck of a crew to throw to. Going to be fun to watch.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I am much more upbeat about the prospects of a more consistent offensive output NOW than I was six months ago. I like how BH has rebuilt the O-line and plugged other holes. I’m excited for the season to start and think we’re going to surprise a few people.

 

[first11]

I believe that this team will be very competitive. Other than our date with the ducks I see the Griz holding their own with balance of schedule. With BH at lead I believe a 9-3 season and home playoff games is on our reach. Davis and ewu will be battles we have a decent shot to win.