Let's talk about the game

[Proud Griz Man]

Jack fans - many of them think the game will be over by start of 2nd QTR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQctGxPJBF4

 

[CDAGRIZ]

If you think about it, we wouldn't be in this position if we hadn't scored more points than the teams we've played in the playoffs.

I think one of the coaches may have said directly that

I mean, imagine if we played all those teams in a hockey rink, and they got four downs, and we only got two, and they had Mahomes playing QB, and they had Connor McDavid at WR. We might not have made it this far.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I think one of the coaches may have said directly that

I mean, imagine if we played all those teams in a hockey rink, and they got four downs, and we only got two, and they had Mahomes playing QB, and they had Connor McDavid at WR. We might not have made it this far.

Just imagine if Montana never got to play any games at all in Montana. We may not be 13-1

Hell we’re just lucky we got cake walk programs of Deleware Furman and NDSU.

Imagine if we would have been sent blue bloods like Mercer Villanova and Albany. No way we make it through that power train.

 

[Griz Time]

I hope the entire world keeps piling against our team. Brings back so many memories of the herculean underdogs we were going against Marshall, in '95

#WeBelieve

 

[EverettGriz]

I think one of the coaches may have said directly that

I mean, imagine if we played all those teams in a hockey rink, and they got four downs, and we only got two, and they had Mahomes playing QB, and they had Connor McDavid at WR. We might not have made it this far.

The coaches do have a point, though. I mean, we certainly didn't do anything during the entire season to earn the right to play our games at home, while sdsu had to go on the road to play all those games.


Wait...

 

[EverettGriz]

I mean, imagine if we played all those teams in a hockey rink, and they got four downs, and we only got two, and they had Mahomes playing QB, and they had Connor McDavid at WR. We might not have made it this far.

Just imagine if Montana never got to play any games at all in Montana. We may not be 13-1

Hell we’re just lucky we got cake walk programs of Deleware Furman and NDSU.

Imagine if we would have been sent blue bloods like Mercer Villanova and Albany. No way we make it through that power train.

Seriously. I honestly believed no one in history would get an easier track to the title game than the bubs did. But sdsu has set the bar so high someone would have to play noco 3 times to have an easier path.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Jack fans - many of them think the game will be over by start of 2nd QTR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQctGxPJBF4

Man those guys are dbags.

 

[Jackedforlife]

Jackrabbit fan here looking for friendly banter, intelligent and fact based. Love to answer any questions you may have about the Jacks and provide perspective. I’m a complete homer but can see things objectively, at least I think so.

Each team will need their A game to win it. The biggest advantage the Jacks have in my opinion is depth. Comparing games that happened 3-4 months ago won’t cut it. Both teams are different now. The Griz peaking and persevering. The Jacks turning it up come the playoffs.

 

[EverettGriz]

Jackrabbit fan here looking for friendly banter, intelligent and fact based. Love to answer any questions you may have about the Jacks and provide perspective. I’m a complete homer but can see things objectively, at least I think so.

Each team will need their A game to win it. The biggest advantage the Jacks have in my opinion is depth. Comparing games that happened 3-4 months ago won’t cut it. Both teams are different now. The Griz peaking and persevering. The Jacks turning it up come the playoffs.

Welcome to the board, JFL.

 

[MinnesotaJack]

Defensively, I think we can hold our own. What team has been able to run wild on us this year? NDSU didn't, the cats didn't. Outside of the two busted coverages in the Furman game, they weren't able to really get anything going. I think we will be fine against SDSU's run game. The passing game is what scares me though. Gronowski is easily the best QB we will see this year. He's incredibly accurate down field, and the deep shots have me worried. The Janke twins have me very concerned as they have just been money their entire careers. I do think if we can get pressure on Gronowski, we can slow down the pass game but I still think he's gonna be able to stand in there and complete throws, so our secondary needs to play their best game of the season.

Honestly, this is one thing that I worry about a little bit. Southern Illinois runs a similar defensive scheme as the Griz, and they were able to get pressure pretty much the whole game. Gronowski still had pretty decent numbers, but we were only able to hit one big play for a 49 yard TD early in the 3rd quarter. Add in the fact that there is 3 weeks to prepare, I expect the Griz to dial up some pretty exotic blitzes to try and force some mistakes. Gronowski gets a lot of accolades for a lot of reasons, but one of his greatest assets to me is he is not afraid to throw the ball into the 2nd row instead of forcing something. If there's consistent pressure on him he may not have that luxury though.

In the special teams, I do think Bergen's gonna have to break one off for us to stay in this game. IDK how good their coverage units are (I'm assuming pretty good cause they don't appear to be bad at much) but we gotta have short fields. Their kicker has a big leg so he shouldn't have an issue putting the ball in the back of the endzone, so I don't think we're gonna get a chance in the kicking game, but hopefully there's an opportunity or 2 in the punting game. Pleas god don't let this come down to a field goal kicking contest at the end cause we will lose. SDSU has always had really good kickers, and this year is no exception. He is much better than Ramos and Glasgow. My worse fear is that this game is gonna come down to a game winning field goal and I'm not gonna be able to watch.

We do have pretty good coverage units, especially on punts. For the season opponents have returned 9 punts for 23 yards against us. Still with that said, I don't think anyone wants to see us act all macho and challenge Bergen. I will not complain at all if every punt is 35-38 yards that ends in a fair catch. As far as kickoffs, I wouldn't say Dustman has a "big leg" but it is pretty decent. He can't consistently kick the ball through the end zone, but will get it about 5 yards deep if he wants. He will try to pop kicks up a little to the 5 yard line or so, but much like with punting I'd prefer to see us not fool around with anything other than trying for touchbacks.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Jackrabbit fan here looking for friendly banter, intelligent and fact based. Love to answer any questions you may have about the Jacks and provide perspective. I’m a complete homer but can see things objectively, at least I think so.

Each team will need their A game to win it. The biggest advantage the Jacks have in my opinion is depth. Comparing games that happened 3-4 months ago won’t cut it. Both teams are different now. The Griz peaking and persevering. The Jacks turning it up come the playoffs.

Where do you think you have more depth?

I think we have better coaches. We should have a very good and tailored D scheme. Tim Hauck is special.

How healthy is your team?

We are relentless on D and haven’t worn down in any game, to my knowledge.

Our QB and O-Line need to have their best games. The QB is from Houston and said he came to UM to win a national championship. Said that in his first interview.

Your punt return D has been amazing.

Our blitzes will bother your qb. He could also get good plays called into the soft area of blitz and get big plays. Hope not too many.

 

[Jackedforlife]

Jackrabbit fan here looking for friendly banter, intelligent and fact based. Love to answer any questions you may have about the Jacks and provide perspective. I’m a complete homer but can see things objectively, at least I think so.

Each team will need their A game to win it. The biggest advantage the Jacks have in my opinion is depth. Comparing games that happened 3-4 months ago won’t cut it. Both teams are different now. The Griz peaking and persevering. The Jacks turning it up come the playoffs.

Where do you think you have more depth?

I think we have better coaches. We should have a very good and tailored D scheme. Tim Hauck is special.

How healthy is your team?

We are relentless on D and haven’t worn down in any game, to my knowledge.

Our QB and O-Line need to have their best games. The QB is from Houston and said he came to UM to win a national championship. Said that in his first interview.

Your punt return has been amazing.

Our blitzes will bother your qb. He could also get good plays called into the soft area of blitz and get big plays. Hope not too many.

Depth, mainly on D, 8-9 guys on the DL, 7+ LBs all with starting experience. Safeties play 4-5 guys, CBs could be at 4. Offensively the depth difference, in my opinion is at RB.

I understand your D hasn’t necessarily worn down in any game. I think you poll the previous 14 Jacks opponents and they’ll admit, the OL especially will wear a front 7 down. Not sure I see a lot of full rotations on your front 7. Throw in the Janke’s and TEs blocking it takes a toll.

I’d imagine quite a few plays and shifts set up to identify coverages and blitzes.

Health wise I think everyone should be available. Jaxon Janke didn’t finish the Albany game but that was likely precautionary. Possibly could get back the 3rd CB, Arrell.

McDowell has moxie, I remember reading that tweet. Good find there. Bergen is a threat whether ST or at WR, expect he’ll get a lot of attention. Gilman is special but I would expect more D schemes to limit big pass plays.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Where do you think you have more depth?

I think we have better coaches. We should have a very good and tailored D scheme. Tim Hauck is special.

How healthy is your team?

We are relentless on D and haven’t worn down in any game, to my knowledge.

Our QB and O-Line need to have their best games. The QB is from Houston and said he came to UM to win a national championship. Said that in his first interview.

Your punt return has been amazing.

Our blitzes will bother your qb. He could also get good plays called into the soft area of blitz and get big plays. Hope not too many.

Depth, mainly on D, 8-9 guys on the DL, 7+ LBs all with starting experience. Safeties play 4-5 guys, CBs could be at 4. Offensively the depth difference, in my opinion is at RB.

I understand your D hasn’t necessarily worn down in any game. I think you poll the previous 14 Jacks opponents and they’ll admit, the OL especially will wear a front 7 down. Not sure I see a lot of full rotations on your front 7. Throw in the Janke’s and TEs blocking it takes a toll.

I’d imagine quite a few plays and shifts set up to identify coverages and blitzes.

Health wise I think everyone should be available. Jaxon Janke didn’t finish the Albany game but that was likely precautionary. Possibly could get back the 3rd CB, Arrell.

McDowell has moxie, I remember reading that tweet. Good find there. Bergen is a threat whether ST or at WR, expect he’ll get a lot of attention. Gilman is special but I would expect more D schemes to limit big pass plays.

I know you have a top back, but we are 4 deep there and I would take our top 2 over your top 2.

Eck said your d-line was one of your weaker position groups. Okay, good depth. “ I don't think the individual talent on (SDSU's) d-line is exceptional, but they play really, really hard and they play a lot of guys.”

Our secondary has depth, and our top 2 corners were first team all conference. Our backers are deep and good. 2 have made all-America teams. One has great speed. The other is also fast.

I know your o-line is very good. We will see how smart and adaptable they are.

I like our team and teamwork. You have more top notch players.

How did your team play against the Bobcats. I watched the game.

How good are your young coaches? Obviously, good.

 

[Griz Time]

Depth, mainly on D, 8-9 guys on the DL, 7+ LBs all with starting experience. Safeties play 4-5 guys, CBs could be at 4. Offensively the depth difference, in my opinion is at RB.

I understand your D hasn’t necessarily worn down in any game. I think you poll the previous 14 Jacks opponents and they’ll admit, the OL especially will wear a front 7 down. Not sure I see a lot of full rotations on your front 7. Throw in the Janke’s and TEs blocking it takes a toll.

I’d imagine quite a few plays and shifts set up to identify coverages and blitzes.

Health wise I think everyone should be available. Jaxon Janke didn’t finish the Albany game but that was likely precautionary. Possibly could get back the 3rd CB, Arrell.

McDowell has moxie, I remember reading that tweet. Good find there. Bergen is a threat whether ST or at WR, expect he’ll get a lot of attention. Gilman is special but I would expect more D schemes to limit big pass plays.

I know you have a top back, but we are 4 deep there and I would take our top 2 over your top 2.

Eck said your d-line was one of your weaker position groups. Okay, good depth. “ I don't think the individual talent on (SDSU's) d-line is exceptional, but they play really, really hard and they play a lot of guys.”

Our secondary has depth, and our top 2 corners were first team all conference. Our backers are deep and good. 2 have made all-America teams. One has great speed. The other is also fast.

I know your o-line is very good. We will see how smart and adaptable they are.

I like our team and teamwork. You have more top notch players.

How did your team play against the Bobcats. I watched the game.

How good are your young coaches? Obviously, good.

If I may Hoops, you forgot to add that the RB room is so deep that arguably the highest rb ranked true frosh, hit the portal.

 

[Jackedforlife]

I think when discussing past games and comparing common opppnents it’s a slippery slope. Sure the MSU game was close, but our game against the Bison wasn’t.

Regarding RBs, of course we’d each favor our guys. It’ll cause an uproar with Griz fans with this take…as awesome as Gilman is and has been, in my opinion he might be the 4th RB on the Jacks. That said you guys would likely put the Rabbits 2nd and 3rd RB at 3rd and 5th.


Teams are both tight knit. Strong brotherhoods in each locker room.

Regarding Eck and his comments, I’d suggest he watch some film of the “Chaingang” now that he has time. Definitely won’t agree they are a weak link. They are essentially no name, 7-8 guys all on a very good level. No drop off when rotating.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I think when discussing past games and comparing common opppnents it’s a slippery slope. Sure the MSU game was close, but our game against the Bison wasn’t.

Regarding RBs, of course we’d each favor our guys. It’ll cause an uproar with Griz fans with this take…as awesome as Gilman is and has been, in my opinion he might be the 4th RB on the Jacks. That said you guys would likely put the Rabbits 2nd and 3rd RB at 3rd and 5th.


Teams are both tight knit. Strong brotherhoods in each locker room.

Regarding Eck and his comments, I’d suggest he watch some film of the “Chaingang” now that he has time. Definitely won’t agree they are a weak link. They are essentially no name, 7-8 guys all on a very good level. No drop off when rotating.

I didn't compare any game or the Cat game. I asked how well you played. You played well; you played poorly. How did you play?

Oh BS on your comment on Gillman. That shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Our top 2 backs are better than your top 2 backs, as a group. Jeez, look at how they run. Your second back has hardly played in recent games. 11 carries for 47 yards in the last 2 games.

You sound like Bobcat posters. "Our backs are all world, and the Griz backs couldn't make the team." "Our backups are better than our starters." "No drop off." Ya, right.

How fast are those 2 brother receivers?

 

[mthoopsfan]

How many SDSU lineman will it take to block Gubner?

"Gubner named AFCA All-American"

https://gogriz.com/news/2023/12/20/football-gubner-named-first-team-all-american-by-afca

 

[Griz Time]

I think when discussing past games and comparing common opppnents it’s a slippery slope. Sure the MSU game was close, but our game against the Bison wasn’t.

Regarding RBs, of course we’d each favor our guys. It’ll cause an uproar with Griz fans with this take…as awesome as Gilman is and has been, in my opinion he might be the 4th RB on the Jacks. That said you guys would likely put the Rabbits 2nd and 3rd RB at 3rd and 5th.


Teams are both tight knit. Strong brotherhoods in each locker room.

Regarding Eck and his comments, I’d suggest he watch some film of the “Chaingang” now that he has time. Definitely won’t agree they are a weak link. They are essentially no name, 7-8 guys all on a very good level. No drop off when rotating.

Welcome aboard Jack.
I sorta cut to the chase with my overview as i dont wish to compare scores, opponents or most stats.
Any teams left a few weeks ago, were viewed as legit.
Griz proved their worth against two top worthy playoff teams.
SD has legit talent across the board.
We have been playing on house money since September.
I love the doubt and the underdog role. Hell, lets make it 21pt dogs to the Griz and keep posting more coach outtakes (nationwide)that sdsu will bury the Griz.
Odds say yes.
Id just say, when playing with house money, i wouldnt rest easy.
Aint no pressure on us, we arent supposed to be here. Picked 6th in preseason conference polls, if we want to look at that.
Pressure is all on you guys, your team coming back to conquer the quest.
Ive seen the favorite role enough times, in the natty.
Glad we aren't there!
Best of luck.

PS, Hoops is correct, you do have the better paper talent but i dont think your staff has the depth of experience. I do find that a curiously odd favor, with some 6th ranked conference bumpkins

 

[Jackedforlife]

I think when discussing past games and comparing common opppnents it’s a slippery slope. Sure the MSU game was close, but our game against the Bison wasn’t.

Regarding RBs, of course we’d each favor our guys. It’ll cause an uproar with Griz fans with this take…as awesome as Gilman is and has been, in my opinion he might be the 4th RB on the Jacks. That said you guys would likely put the Rabbits 2nd and 3rd RB at 3rd and 5th.


Teams are both tight knit. Strong brotherhoods in each locker room.

Regarding Eck and his comments, I’d suggest he watch some film of the “Chaingang” now that he has time. Definitely won’t agree they are a weak link. They are essentially no name, 7-8 guys all on a very good level. No drop off when rotating.

I didn't compare any game or the Cat game. I asked how well you played. You played well; you played poorly. How did you play?

Oh BS on your comment on Gillman. That shows that you don't know what you're talking about. Our top 2 backs are better than your top 2 backs, as a group. Jeez, look at how they run. Your second back has hardly played in recent games. 11 carries for 47 yards in the last 2 games.

You sound like Bobcat posters. "Our backs are all world, and the Griz backs couldn't make the team." "Our backups are better than our starters." "No drop off." Ya, right.

How fast are those 2 brother receivers?

Janke’s if I were to guess have 4.4 -4.5 speed. Big and quick. Rarely tackled with one guy.

Look, I get it’s ruffling feathers that’s why I had the disclaimer. We’d each pick our guys. Look at overall season stats of each teams RBs. I’m not trying to poo poo your guys. But if you think Amar Johnson isn’t going over 1000 if Davis isn’t in the pic, you’re partaking in something that isn’t legal in SD. Limited touches because the guy ahead of him is likely the best RB SDSU has ever had. That’s almost blasphemy with some of the other guys that came through the program. It’ll be a heckuva matchup for both defenses. But look at overall stats, yards as well as averages. Keep in mind the Jacks often had the lead and the defense knew they were running the ball and still had success.

The Bobcat game started out well, an untimely fumble, then everything got mucky. Played meh for 2 qtrs, then turned it on and held on in the end.

 

[Jackedforlife]

How many SDSU lineman will it take to block Gubner?

"Gubner named AFCA All-American"

https://gogriz.com/news/2023/12/20/football-gubner-named-first-team-all-american-by-afca

Gubner is a problem. Miller has been one of the highest rated OC in the FCS this season, LG McCormick and LT Greenfield will hear their names called in the Draft. The right side of the line is a little unheralded but RG Beerntsen is playing some of his best ball all season and RT O’Brian is solid. Gubner will garner plenty of respect.