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[MissoulaCanucksFan]

...notified Redshirts...that their Schollies would not be available upon return of their missions... upon return in 2 years.

...returning from his mission shortly...

What's this about 'missions?' A mission to preserve their nation against enemies of the State? To preserve the Constitution of the 'United' States of America against both foreign and domestic enemies that their individual State of Utah ratified? If for some reason those that finagle an extra two years of growth, nourishment and weight-lifting under a metaphysical denouement contra even the basic principles considered Platonic, yet alone Aristotelian, should ever be considered for Division I sports to begin with is no better than injustice veneered under the cloak of a so-called religious bestiality; let them go on to the Division II ranks, or the NAIA, not Division I, in all fairness sake, if they wish to pursue a furthur experience in the gymnastic arena, which includes all sports even before Justinian closed the Academy. 25 year olds playing against 18 and 19 year olds straight out of high school does not equate to a level playing field, regardless of confabulation; for consciences' sake.

I think WSUnPurple is talking about LDS (Mormon) church missions...

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

I think WSUnPurple is talking about LDS (Mormon) church missions...

As I figured. I know someone who had a daughter run Track & Field for Idaho State and also a son that did the same thing for the MSU Bobcats; the parents quite steamed about the whole matter and the same complaint from the athletes as well. Doesn't matter if it's basketball, track & Field or football; unfair advantage hiding behind a cloak of religiosity.
If they wanted to be 'fair' about it all, they can go on their 'missions' when their athletic eligibility is used up. Not forcing other teams to play against opponents that for all intends and purposes would be two or three year pros by that time.

 

[Grizzoola]

If they wanted to be 'fair' about it all, they can go on their 'missions' when their athletic eligibility is used up.

THIS is the best idea I've seen re: the problem. It's kind of like the draft when I was in college. As long as you're in college, you will not be drafted. But, after college, you will be. But, we're dealing with the requirements of a religion, here.

I just think college athletics, esp. football, has to be examined by the Congress & laws laid down re: a variety of things, which I've expressed in other threads on this board. One of those provisions of a possible law would be to prohibit any enrolled college student from participating in intercollegiate athletics beyond the age of 22. This may be reverse age discrimination, but we're looking at, as you suggest, ensuring a level field for all college athletes in all respects, including age.

 

[WSUWALDO]

I think WSUnPurple is talking about LDS (Mormon) church missions...

As I figured. I know someone who had a daughter run Track & Field for Idaho State and also a son that did the same thing for the MSU Bobcats; the parents quite steamed about the whole matter and the same complaint from the athletes as well. Doesn't matter if it's basketball, track & Field or football; unfair advantage hiding behind a cloak of religiosity.
If they wanted to be 'fair' about it all, they can go on their 'missions' when their athletic eligibility is used up. Not forcing other teams to play against opponents that for all intends and purposes would be two or three year pros by that time.

Doesn't Montana have a guy who served an LDS mission on the basketball team? I'm sure there are a couple of football players, or at least a few that went on missions who have played for Montana. I know there are quite a few LDS peoples in Montana and Wyoming. Stop the Hate. I think its rather childish that you are attacking kids who serve others for two years as a bad thing. I'm pretty sure you couldn't hack it.

 

[Growler1]

I think WSUnPurple is talking about LDS (Mormon) church missions...

As I figured. I know someone who had a daughter run Track & Field for Idaho State and also a son that did the same thing for the MSU Bobcats; the parents quite steamed about the whole matter and the same complaint from the athletes as well. Doesn't matter if it's basketball, track & Field or football; unfair advantage hiding behind a cloak of religiosity.
If they wanted to be 'fair' about it all, they can go on their 'missions' when their athletic eligibility is used up. Not forcing other teams to play against opponents that for all intends and purposes would be two or three year pros by that time.

Doesn't Montana have a guy who served an LDS mission on the basketball team? I'm sure there are a couple of football players, or at least a few that went on missions who have played for Montana. I know there are quite a few LDS peoples in Montana and Wyoming. Stop the Hate. I think its rather childish that you are attacking kids who serve others for two years as a bad thing. I'm pretty sure you couldn't hack it.

I would not have a kid on my team who is not smart enough to figure out that he has been brainwashed his entire life by his parents, who belong to that legal multi-level marketing cult which demands 10% payola to stay in "God's Good Graces", and who demands that kids waste two years of their lives trying to brainwash others.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Doesn't Montana have a guy who served an LDS mission on the basketball team? I'm sure there are a couple of football players, or at least a few that went on missions who have played for Montana. I know there are quite a few LDS peoples in Montana and Wyoming. Stop the Hate. I think its rather childish that you are attacking kids who serve others for two years as a bad thing. I'm pretty sure you couldn't hack it.

"Stop the Hate." A typical run of the mill response from the typical just born yesterday mentality; typical for the everyday media enhanced propaganda that implies that all forms of disagreement is a form of hatred. No sense of thinking that both sides may be right about anything,..something? Insofar as attacking mere little kiddies, isn't that just another typical just born yesterday response as well; hiding behind the 'little ones' now and then calling someone out as an assailant as being childish. A circular line of reasoning is counter-productive dude, you do know that, don't you? So it be childish to defend equal and unbiased determinations good for one and all, so mote it be; too bad you put forth no better than a demagogical (making use of popular prejudices and false claims in order to gain power; a winning of an argument on an Internet Forum no less) harangue (a bombastic ranting speech or writing) in your so-called serving of others; what's up with that?...a John D. Lee to the rescue? Maybe you ought to do some more cover-up.


I've met some of those so-called 'mission' expounders; to tell you the truth, I never met one with a backbone no better than a jellyfish. It's like talking with someone that knows they don't know what they're talking about. And you can forgo the allusion of other teams' as well (specifically, not in the past forty or so years that I know of); besides, just because you ain't as evil as what someone else did, doesn't mean you ain't evil in something else besides. There's a lot of misdirection that takes advantage of someone else's ignorance in this world, and in the doing so is an evil in and of itself.

 

[WSUWALDO]

Well stated sir, you are a prime example of "said" ignorance. Oh you forgot about addressing my primary argument, that UM uses LDS athelets who have served missions; once again, something you couldn't hack.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Would someone mind naming our LDS athletes? Seriously, not trying to start anything, but do want to know. Not saying we have not had any, but if we have, it has been few and far between.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

And you can forgo the allusion of other teams' as well (specifically, not in the past forty or so years that I know of);

...you forgot about addressing my primary argument, that UM uses LDS athelets who have served missions; once again, something you couldn't hack.

Which was not forgotten whatsoever; indeed, that was what the 'specifically' alluded to. Not in the past forty or so years that I know of. Name one.

Besides, if you care to notice, my statements alluded to a fair playing ground for all athletes straight across the board. A policy misdirectedly applied by the NCAA wherein certain institutions take advantage of at all others' expense, in their allowance for a two-year 'mission.' As was stated previously: at many times 18 to 19 year old individuals straight out of high school having to go up against 25, and sometimes older 'kids,' in a supposed equal playing field playing by the same rules.

Your diversion tactics implemented to belay an appreication of the dilemma denotes an ulterior motive. Perhaps you yourself gain unwarranted benefits from such an unannounced system to the general public; but of course, there are more important things for them to concern themselves with, now isn't there? So milk it for what it's worth until you get caught, huh? At least, until someone comes to their senses and gets honest with themselves, as well as with all others.

 

[BelierPeaux]

Would someone mind naming naming our LDS athletes? Seriously, not trying to start anything, but do want to know. Not saying we have not had any, but if we have, it has been few and far between.

I do believe Jordan Wood went on a mission. That's the only one I can think of.

 

[WSUnPurple]

With Jordan Wood, Montana has more Returned Missionaries on their roster than Weber State does, last season and the same for next as well.

The last Return missionary Weber had was Nick Hansen in 2009-2010.

Darin Mahoney is LDS, but did not go on a mission.

Josh Fuller won't be suiting up for 2 more seasons.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

One of those provisions of a possible law would be to prohibit any enrolled college student from participating in intercollegiate athletics beyond the age of 22. This may be reverse age discrimination, but we're looking at, as you suggest, ensuring a level field for all college athletes in all respects, including age.

I'd say, all things considered equal, fours years plus a redshirt, up to the age of 23. One year proviso is also recognized by the NCAA for medical reasons, if necessary for a curtailment of athletic activity due to injury, etc., making a sixth-year senior; but beyond that no way.

Jordan Wood is the first and only athlete to play for the University of Montana in over forty years that I've been following, whether basketball or football or any other sport; not like the twenty or so for an un-named football team from Utah just two years ago that were nearing the age and above the age of 25.

Of a pretty good case of reverse discrimination from a while back there was a Karyn Rideway in the eighties that spent two years at Northern Colorado studying music and transferred into the UofM and went out for basketball with the Lady Griz. She could only play three years (1985-88) having to lose one year of eligibility because of a two year hiatus; a male athlete does not lose a year eligibility while on a so-called mission while other career enhancement courses towards a degree do deprive others of the same eligibilty. It's still an unfair practice none the less and I for one, if part of a university administration, wouldn't allow it into any univeristy that I was part of. They either get it right for all concerned or not have it at all, plain and simple.

Insofar as 'serving' others as alluded to about someone on a 'mission' I still recognise the Hampton Court ruling of 1604 and specifically the second chapter of the Book of James: "in respects of other persons don't exercise your faith." Besides which, after more than eight years in the military I feel confident that I can handle your patty-cake so-called missions. So forgo your personal references insinuating what I can't "hack" in order to patronize your vanity, I'm quite certain that I don't need someone else's tired meat besides; your nefarious insults deemed as shallow to begin with.

 

[Growler1]

One of those provisions of a possible law would be to prohibit any enrolled college student from participating in intercollegiate athletics beyond the age of 22. This may be reverse age discrimination, but we're looking at, as you suggest, ensuring a level field for all college athletes in all respects, including age.

I'd say, all things considered equal, fours years plus a redshirt, up to the age of 23. One year proviso is also recognized by the NCAA for medical reasons, if necessary for a curtailment of athletic activity due to injury, etc., making a sixth-year senior; but beyond that no way.

Jordan Wood is the first and only athlete to play for the University of Montana in over forty years that I've been following, whether basketball or football or any other sport; not like the twenty or so for an un-named football team from Utah just two years ago that were nearing the age and above the age of 25.

Of a pretty good case of reverse discrimination from a while back there was a Karyn Rideway in the eighties that spent two years at Northern Colorado studying music and transferred into the UofM and went out for basketball with the Lady Griz. She could only play three years (1985-88) having to lose one year of eligibility because of a two year hiatus; a male athlete does not lose a year eligibility while on a so-called mission while other career enhancement courses towards a degree do deprive others of the same eligibilty. It's still an unfair practice none the less and I for one, if part of a university administration, wouldn't allow it into any univeristy that I was part of. They either get it right for all concerned or not have it at all, plain and simple.

Insofar as 'serving' others as alluded to about someone on a 'mission' I still recognise the Hampton Court ruling of 1604 and specifically the second chapter of the Book of James: "in respects of other persons don't exercise your faith." Besides which, after more than eight years in the military I feel confident that I can handle your patty-cake so-called missions. So forgo your personal references insinuating what I can't "hack" in order to patronize your vanity, I'm quite certain that I don't need someone else's tired meat besides; your nefarious insults deemed as shallow to begin with.

The "mission" these kids go on is really just recruiting to keep the multi-level marketing of that "religion" going. You know, where everyone is ordered to give 10% into a black hole with no accountability as to where the money goes. Somebody, or some group of individuals has become very wealthy with this MLM scheme. I sure wish I had had that dream!

 

[fanofzoo]

I think WSUnPurple is talking about LDS (Mormon) church missions...

As I figured. I know someone who had a daughter run Track & Field for Idaho State and also a son that did the same thing for the MSU Bobcats; the parents quite steamed about the whole matter and the same complaint from the athletes as well. Doesn't matter if it's basketball, track & Field or football; unfair advantage hiding behind a cloak of religiosity.
If they wanted to be 'fair' about it all, they can go on their 'missions' when their athletic eligibility is used up. Not forcing other teams to play against opponents that for all intends and purposes would be two or three year pros by that time.

Doesn't Montana have a guy who served an LDS mission on the basketball team? I'm sure there are a couple of football players, or at least a few that went on missions who have played for Montana. I know there are quite a few LDS peoples in Montana and Wyoming. Stop the Hate. I think its rather childish that you are attacking kids who serve others for two years as a bad thing. I'm pretty sure you couldn't hack it.

I am quite sure that I would never make a fool of myself trying to talk to people about the whole way that cult started, you know the lizard thing and LOSING the gold tablets. You got to be out of your mind!

 

[Gaeilge1]

Getting back on track, I think you will find, (the next), Coach K to be very disciplined with his players and his system. He is very defense oriented, which as I recall will be a drastic change for Utah this year. You may not see a turn around immediately but you will see much stronger defense being played immediately and the Utes should be in virtually every game. The offense will also be more disciplined, but where you will see the biggest change will be defensively.

I think you are going to be very very pleased with this hire. It would be anyone's guess as to how long he will be there. I would think however that with his stint as an NBA HC in Milwaukee it would take an offer from a contending NBA team to get him to move.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I think LK can get the job done, My only concern is will Utah give him the time he needs to GET the job done.

 

[DuCharme]

wow... so much hate in Utah

 

[grizindabox]

Utah will be absolutely dreadful for at least 3 years..

Utes suck, Crisco sucks...

They have signed 5 or 6 JC's that nobody else recruited, Glen Dean, and LSU transfer have to sit out a year.. Utah might be 0-29 next season..

Wonder what WSUnPurple currently thinks?

 

[signedbewildered]

Must be something in the sweet grass.

 

[cclarkblues]