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Lamson > Ay Yat

Bobcat99 said:
Since all conference awards matter now, I’m glad to see you finally think Paul Brott is very good.

;)
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I’ll help you out since it seems you’re still struggling. When a Griz player receives an accolade like All-BSC, it’s a confirmation that the player is very good. When a Bobplayer receives a similar accolade, it’s primarily driven by political reasons and/or charitable sentiment. This is especially true when a Bob recipient of such an accolade has a surname that sounds like the first part of an escaping fart after a failed hold-in attempt.

This concept is pretty widely known in CFB circles.
 
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Bobcat99 said:
Since all conference awards matter now, I’m glad to see you finally think Paul Brott is very good.

;)
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Brott is the prime example of a political decision and a player from top team getting picked even he wasn't deserving. And Inever said Lamson wasn't very good. I said Ah Yat was better.
 
GrizRealist said:
Not saying Ay Yat isn’t the better QB, but citing an all conference selection as the qualifying evidence is some dumb reasoning. Those selections often hilight players undeservingly and are inherently political.
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Post your evidence that KAY was undeserving, or his selection was political.

You cannot. Of course he deserved the selection...and it wasn't particularly close last season...

Dumb post.
 
SoldierGriz said:
Post your evidence that KAY was undeserving, or his selection was political.

You cannot. Of course he deserved the selection...and it wasn't particularly close last season...

Dumb post.
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Great insight and great post. You are an excellent poster and knowledgeable about the game of football.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
All the stupid arguing and no one has brought up the fact that Ah Yat's name isn't even spelled correctly. And even worse than that, some people have commented on the argument while still continuing to spell his name wrong. 🙄
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That’s totally correct and my bad Mom. Embarrassing.
 
5280Griz said:
The all conference teams are selected by the coaches. You think that the Big Sky coaches are dumb at evaluating the players in their conference compared to the average poster on egriz?
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Not sure how it is at all programs, but I have had one head coach tell me he never voted for anything...he had someone in the athletic program do all of his ballots. He thought they were a waste of time.
 
SoldierGriz said:
Post your evidence that KAY was undeserving, or his selection was political.

You cannot. Of course he deserved the selection...and it wasn't particularly close last season...

Dumb post.
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I never said he was undeserving as I said in my actual post. I was making a general comment about these all conference selections that said it was generally a bad method for determining who is actually the better player. Retard.
 
mthoopsfan said:
“2. Pure Arm Talent and Passing Projectability
This is where Ah Yat separates himself in the eyes of NFL personnel.

  • Ah Yat: He is a natural, fluid pocket passer with advanced processing skills. He possesses a quick, effortless release and highly impressive intermediate-to-deep ball accuracy. NFL offenses are built on a quarterback's ability to handle high-volume dropbacks, read full-field progressions, and anticipate windows. Ah Yat proved he can carry an entire offense with his arm, delivering high-level touch and velocity on a high volume of throws.
  • Lamson: While Lamson’s deep-ball efficiency numbers were staggering, it was heavily aided by Montana State’s dominant, run-heavy option system that freezes safeties and creates massive windows. Lamson has a strong arm, but his mechanics can occasionally get rigid, and he hasn't been asked to carry a high-volume, pass-first pro-style offense the way Ah Yat has.
  • Advantage: Ah Yat

3. Modern Mobility and Improvisation​

  • Ah Yat: Ah Yat has fantastic pocket presence. He isn't just a runner; he uses his legs to manipulate the pocket, evade the rush, and extend plays while keeping his eyes strictly downfield. This "off-platform" improvisational playmaking is exactly what modern NFL offenses look for.
  • Lamson: Lamson is a highly effective, powerful runner on designed plays, but his mobility is more linear and physical.
  • Advantage: Ah Yat

The Final Scouting Verdict​

  • Keali'i Ah Yat projects as a traditional, high-upside developmental NFL quarterback. He has the pedigree (his father Brian was a legendary Griz QB), the natural arm talent, and the processing ceiling that makes scouts believe he can operate a standard NFL passing game. If he continues to bulk up and cuts down on a few of his sophomore risk-taking interceptions, his ceiling is that of a draftable, multi-year NFL backup with starting potential.
  • Justin Lamson projects more as an athletic, versatile weapon. NFL teams love having a backup quarterback who brings a completely different element to the game—think of a Taysom Hill or a Jacoby Brissett type. Lamson’s elite ball security (zero picks in conference play) and short-yardage rushing power make him an intriguing candidate for a team looking for a highly efficient, tough-as-nails depth piece who can execute a specialized package.
If a franchise is looking for a pure quarterback to develop into a future passer, Ah Yat is the guy they turn the tape on first.”

Gemini.
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You’re one of those “well ai says” boomers aren’t you?
 
SoldierGriz said:
Post your evidence that KAY was undeserving, or his selection was political.

You cannot. Of course he deserved the selection...and it wasn't particularly close last season...

Dumb post.
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Evidence? These selections are pretty much always subjective and political. As for this selection not being close, that's total BS. An argument can easily be made for Lamson considering his numbers and results.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Evidence? These selections are pretty much always subjective and political. As for this selection not being close, that's total BS. An argument can easily be made for Lamson considering his numbers and results.
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Im pretty sure Lamson broke the conference season completion percentage record by a couple percentage points.
 
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