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Lady Griz - PSU Game

TrueGriz said:
grizindabox said:
So the post could lose track of the inbounder just like what happened? I get it, but they should have fouled and not even allowed a 3 point shot.

2 seconds left, the shooter is going to be shooting pretty quickly. Time a foul wrong as you never know when a ref is actually going to call it and the shooter may also be very aware that she is going to be fouled and put up a shot as soon as she is going to be fouled giving her 3 free throws. All the player has to do is throw the ball toward the basket as soon as contact is made. Larry Bird was very good at this.

Lady Griz should have won that game.

GFeller was an 86% freethrow shooter. She hits 2 of 6 this game. Very uncharacteristic on her part. Hit one and the game is over in regulation.

Marxen hit 2 free throws just prior to the 3 point shot that tied it. This gave PSU a chance to inbound it at half court giving them a halfway decent chance at a 3 point shot which they made.
Better odds would have Marxen missing the second shot and with only 2 seconds left, the best PSU would have gotten was a 3/4 court shot which the odds of making that shot is significantly less than half court shot. Not many women can pass the ball that accurately from 3/4 court or further out, and the shot would have been more in desperation than the shot the player made in this game. It would take more than 2 seconds to pass the ball after rebounding it and finding an open player down court to get a similar shot the player that made the shot yesterday.

Anyway, with 2 of the 3 players missing that were in the regular rotation (Albrect hardly played), hurt the Lady Griz hard at the end in my opinion.
Tough game against Sac St saturday and if Haley and Keeli can't make, Lady Griz may have an impossible task in winning the game against a team that just beat the Bobcats yesterday.

I thought this too but I then realized if Marxen misses the second free throw on purpose the Vikes have called a pre-emptory timeout with the refs on the rebound before a foul can occur and get to move it to half court, where then a 3 pointer beats you in regulation.
 
Super weird ending in regulation. Women's game is more similar with the WNBA than college mens hoops is with the NBA in this regard and that played a role in how they handled the FT's and the foul.

They were in a bit of damned if you do, don't situation regarding the foul at the end. With only two seconds the risk was getting the shooter in motion and the location on the floor. Had it been anywhere else where it wasn't a catch and shoot type situation, I feel pretty confident that we would've seen a foul there. That being said UM did well to defend it and the PSU player threw up trash and sometimes it goes in.

The PSU play was able to get the ball in cleanly and return that pass. Seemed like it took an eternity for two seconds to click off there.

Overtime was a mess. I think we see why in this game where we really are missing Stiles this year on both ends of the floor. Konig and Stump really, really struggled offensively and had their hands full defensively. LG had their chances but couldn't contain Morales in the OT session.
 
mtgriz said:
TrueGriz said:
2 seconds left, the shooter is going to be shooting pretty quickly. Time a foul wrong as you never know when a ref is actually going to call it and the shooter may also be very aware that she is going to be fouled and put up a shot as soon as she is going to be fouled giving her 3 free throws. All the player has to do is throw the ball toward the basket as soon as contact is made. Larry Bird was very good at this.

Lady Griz should have won that game.

GFeller was an 86% freethrow shooter. She hits 2 of 6 this game. Very uncharacteristic on her part. Hit one and the game is over in regulation.

Marxen hit 2 free throws just prior to the 3 point shot that tied it. This gave PSU a chance to inbound it at half court giving them a halfway decent chance at a 3 point shot which they made.
Better odds would have Marxen missing the second shot and with only 2 seconds left, the best PSU would have gotten was a 3/4 court shot which the odds of making that shot is significantly less than half court shot. Not many women can pass the ball that accurately from 3/4 court or further out, and the shot would have been more in desperation than the shot the player made in this game. It would take more than 2 seconds to pass the ball after rebounding it and finding an open player down court to get a similar shot the player that made the shot yesterday.

Anyway, with 2 of the 3 players missing that were in the regular rotation (Albrect hardly played), hurt the Lady Griz hard at the end in my opinion.
Tough game against Sac St saturday and if Haley and Keeli can't make, Lady Griz may have an impossible task in winning the game against a team that just beat the Bobcats yesterday.

I thought this too but I then realized if Marxen misses the second free throw on purpose the Vikes have called a pre-emptory timeout with the refs on the rebound before a foul can occur and get to move it to half court, where then a 3 pointer beats you in regulation.

Forgot about them calling a time out on rebound. In hind sight, the result would have been the same, just a period earlier. Both based on a lot of luck.

I still would go with Gfeller hitting at least 50% of her free throws. For someone that hits 86% of her free throws on average that should be easy, but I guess not yesterday.
 
TrueGriz said:
grizindabox said:
So the post could lose track of the inbounder just like what happened? I get it, but they should have fouled and not even allowed a 3 point shot.

2 seconds left, the shooter is going to be shooting pretty quickly. Time a foul wrong as you never know when a ref is actually going to call it and the shooter may also be very aware that she is going to be fouled and put up a shot as soon as she is going to be fouled giving her 3 free throws. All the player has to do is throw the ball toward the basket as soon as contact is made. Larry Bird was very good at this.

Lady Griz should have won that game.

GFeller was an 86% freethrow shooter. She hits 2 of 6 this game. Very uncharacteristic on her part. Hit one and the game is over in regulation.

Marxen hit 2 free throws just prior to the 3 point shot that tied it. This gave PSU a chance to inbound it at half court giving them a halfway decent chance at a 3 point shot which they made.
Better odds would have Marxen missing the second shot and with only 2 seconds left, the best PSU would have gotten was a 3/4 court shot which the odds of making that shot is significantly less than half court shot. Not many women can pass the ball that accurately from 3/4 court or further out, and the shot would have been more in desperation than the shot the player made in this game. It would take more than 2 seconds to pass the ball after rebounding it and finding an open player down court to get a similar shot the player that made the shot yesterday.

Anyway, with 2 of the 3 players missing that were in the regular rotation (Albrect hardly played), hurt the Lady Griz hard at the end in my opinion.
Tough game against Sac St saturday and if Haley and Keeli can't make, Lady Griz may have an impossible task in winning the game against a team that just beat the Bobcats yesterday.

You go for the steal and foul on the inbounds pass. It is about playing the probabilities.
 
This game should never have been lost. Inconsistent play is killing us. The talent is there without question and I said in another post this week that this team could win the conference tourney but they will not playing inconsistently. No doubt down two key players and travel nightmares had an effect on the outcome but you just don't lose a game up with 2-3 seconds left. Three games this season (ISU, Northern Colorado and now PSU) are perfect examples of games that the Lady Griz should never lose and if we had won all three we would be tied for first with the hated Cats.. I still have confidence that we can do well in the tourney but we have to be consistent
 
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