GrizBBIsKing said:
Yes, SOS counts for something. But just because you play tough competition doesn't mean you're a good team.
I have a hard time seeing those four teams as more deserving than Montana - you have to understand the logic behind that.
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Yes, SOS counts for something. But just because you play tough competition doesn't mean you're a good team.
I have a hard time seeing those four teams as more deserving than Montana - you have to understand the logic behind that.
GrizBBIsKing
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Montana Gym Rat said:
True, but all four teams listed have so much better SOS ranking and their records are still pretty good, meaning they won some games against some teams more notable than any that the Lady Griz beat.
And I would say SOS ranking counts more than just the RPI ranking.
DePaul: They had some good quality wins, but they also had 3 bad losses. You have to finish better than 19-12 to overcome 3 bad losses.
Oklahoma State: Yes, they squeaked out a few Big 12 conference games, but their non-conf SOS was waaaay worse than the Lady Griz this year. This is the women's version of Syracuse.
UL Lafayette: So just because a team in your conference recruits one of the best players in the nation, you should get in? Take MTSU out of their conference and their SOS drops like a rock. They have a good win similar to Montana, and they have the bad loss similar to Montana. So that's when I turn to the RPI to tell me who did better against their competition. PLUS - the Lady Griz only losing 3 times all year is more impressive than what this team did.
TCU: The worst one of all. Montana beat Wyoming twice, a team that TCU lost to twice. If that isn't a solid indicator of which team is better, than I don't know what else to tell you. I guess the Wyoming member on the committee did earn their school some conference money by getting another MWC team in.
Oklahoma State: Yes, they squeaked out a few Big 12 conference games, but their non-conf SOS was waaaay worse than the Lady Griz this year. This is the women's version of Syracuse.
UL Lafayette: So just because a team in your conference recruits one of the best players in the nation, you should get in? Take MTSU out of their conference and their SOS drops like a rock. They have a good win similar to Montana, and they have the bad loss similar to Montana. So that's when I turn to the RPI to tell me who did better against their competition. PLUS - the Lady Griz only losing 3 times all year is more impressive than what this team did.
TCU: The worst one of all. Montana beat Wyoming twice, a team that TCU lost to twice. If that isn't a solid indicator of which team is better, than I don't know what else to tell you. I guess the Wyoming member on the committee did earn their school some conference money by getting another MWC team in.
All in all after looking at who got in and who didn't, Montana would have been pretty lucky to get an at-large.
There are some teams more worthy than Montana that have some real gripes.
Oh well, hopefully they can turn in some solid performances at the WNIT. Maybe Morales can challenge for the single season scoring title if they win enough games!
There are some teams more worthy than Montana that have some real gripes.
Oh well, hopefully they can turn in some solid performances at the WNIT. Maybe Morales can challenge for the single season scoring title if they win enough games!
Nancy Lieberman provies some good incite:
"I had Montana at 27-3 as a ten seed. And I had them in the Fresno region and I had Wyoming out. It was very close, but I can't answer for the selcation comittee. There must have been something within the body of work where they thought the other teams were more worthy. "
:laugh: uh, good point nancy- they must not have liked something about their profile, i couldn't have figured that out without you
"I had Montana at 27-3 as a ten seed. And I had them in the Fresno region and I had Wyoming out. It was very close, but I can't answer for the selcation comittee. There must have been something within the body of work where they thought the other teams were more worthy. "
:laugh: uh, good point nancy- they must not have liked something about their profile, i couldn't have figured that out without you
GrizBBIsKing
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Montana Gym Rat said:
So, you think Montana should move out of the Big Sky Conference now?
Except WAC isn't the answer. MWC has two teams in the NCAA. Lady Griz should move to the MWC. The men's team should move to the WAC.
There's no move available. It would be nice.
Hell, I think the Lady Griz would have finished as the 3rd best team in the Pac 10 this year.
Hell, I think the Lady Griz would have finished as the 3rd best team in the Pac 10 this year.
Grizbacker1
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GrizBBIsKing said:
Like that is ever going to happen? :werd:
Looking at the WNIT, there are 16 first round games, with 16 byes given - for a total of 48 teams.
I would think that the Lady Griz would have a bye at least. Plus, if they were one of the last four out, they could be one of the top seeds in their WNIT region.
All top seeds host throughout the entire WNIT tourney.
I would think that the Lady Griz would have a bye at least. Plus, if they were one of the last four out, they could be one of the top seeds in their WNIT region.
All top seeds host throughout the entire WNIT tourney.
Just another little jab at UL-Lafayette:
If you got to http://www.womensnit.com/ , they didn't even think ULL would have a chance for an at-large.
If you got to http://www.womensnit.com/ , they didn't even think ULL would have a chance for an at-large.
Grizbacker1
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Montana Gym Rat said:
The NCAA controls the WNIT adn NIT now so they really take a look at attendance which should help the LG get a home bid if some damn rake and hoe show doesn't screw it up. Can't they just give each fan a wooden yardstick and refrigerator magnet as they leave?
GrizBBIsKing
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Montana Gym Rat said:
Yes, but it is likely that Lady Griz won't because Arena being used for a home and garden show.
The Lady Griz should get a bye this weekend.
GrizBBIsKing
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Grizbacker1 said:
Yes it is :werd: , but it certainly adds fuel to CityGriz's theory on the reason if Lady Griz didn't get into the ncaa tournament. Like two words, "Big", and "Sky". You remember that post right?
Total bullshit...Another reason to hate the east coast---
27-3 and to the NIT...total bullshit, I don't care what conference you play in for crying out loud. A road loss to Ohio State, a road loss to Weber State and then the NAU fiasco...27 frickin wins and it isn't enough??? Please./..
27-3 and to the NIT...total bullshit, I don't care what conference you play in for crying out loud. A road loss to Ohio State, a road loss to Weber State and then the NAU fiasco...27 frickin wins and it isn't enough??? Please./..
The Bad -
This is total bullcrap, if just about any team on the mens side lost only 3 games they'd practically be a lock unless they're in one of the 4-5 very worst conferences in bball. This is just another sign that bringing in these awful schools especially in womens sports such as Sac and NCU just drags down the rest of the conference. I'm very upset that they got snubbed, this is an insult.
The Good - (Fortunatley there is a lot more good to this than bad.)
1. With the exception of Sara Gale who wasn't a starter the whole team returns. This is not a one year "super team" they'll be back in force next year.
2. Motivation - if this doesn't put a chip on their shoulder for the WNIT and the next year I really don't know what will.
3. While a sweet 16 team was a big possibility at the NIT level I do believe this team can advance "further" of course I do know that winning many games in the NIT/WNIT hardly even equals 1 win in the tourneys in most people's eyes.
I'm rooting for a WNIT championship, I sure as hell hope the ladies rip it up and prove that the NCAA made yet another mistake.
This is total bullcrap, if just about any team on the mens side lost only 3 games they'd practically be a lock unless they're in one of the 4-5 very worst conferences in bball. This is just another sign that bringing in these awful schools especially in womens sports such as Sac and NCU just drags down the rest of the conference. I'm very upset that they got snubbed, this is an insult.
The Good - (Fortunatley there is a lot more good to this than bad.)
1. With the exception of Sara Gale who wasn't a starter the whole team returns. This is not a one year "super team" they'll be back in force next year.
2. Motivation - if this doesn't put a chip on their shoulder for the WNIT and the next year I really don't know what will.
3. While a sweet 16 team was a big possibility at the NIT level I do believe this team can advance "further" of course I do know that winning many games in the NIT/WNIT hardly even equals 1 win in the tourneys in most people's eyes.
I'm rooting for a WNIT championship, I sure as hell hope the ladies rip it up and prove that the NCAA made yet another mistake.
Grizbacker1
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GrizBBIsKing said:
You are out of your F ing mind of you think the men are going to one conference and the ladies to another. I am sending you to the clinic for a drug test. you gotta be high. :werd: