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Lady Griz make it a sweep of PSU, winning 81 - 59

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Lady Griz beat PSU on the road.

Mandy Morales scored 23 points on 7 - 14 from the field, 1 3 pointer, 8 - 8 from the freethrow line, and 7 rebounds. One uncharacteristically unusual thing was that she turned the ball over 10 times. But, Mandy also got 4 steals.

Tamara Guardipee had her best game of her career. Made 7 of 7 from the field scoring 14 points, 9 rebounds, and 10 blocked shots. She missed the Big Sky record of blocked shots by 1.

Edwards scored 15 points on 5 of 18 shots, 2 of 6 from 3 pt line, and 3 of 4 from freethrow line. Seems she isn't totally out of her slump. But she keeps shooting which is what a shooter is supposed to do, and hopefully she will start hitting them like she did against Sac State.

Dana Conway scored 10 points and got 7 rebounds.

Clossen lead the Lady Griz with 11 rebounds and scored 6 points.

Lady Griz shot 43.5% (30 - 69) from the field, 78.3% (18 - 23) from the freethrow line. Second game in a row Lady Griz shot better than 40% from the field.

Lady Griz outrebounded PSU 58 - 42.

Lady Griz held PSU to 30% from the field.

Lady Griz next travel to EWU to play an afternoon game on Saturday.
 
I was at the game and it was clear that the LG were much bigger and much better. PSU I think practices against themselves too much. Having no one in the middle like Guardipee, so many times their guards drove into the middle and tried to shoot right over her. Most of the time they never even got the ball out of their hands. It really looked silly. Not only did she stuff 10 shots, she probably caused another 10 shots to be altered.

Despite already being pretty good, the LG look young on the court. Mandy makes too many sloppy passes, Sonya Rogers hasn't shown that she deserves to be getting many minutes (and it seems that she is getting more than she earns at the moment). Sara Gale puts out good effort but still seems lost. Conway has a very nice, quick, catch above her head, shot. It is nearly impossible to defend. Overall, there is so much talent but so much youth. They may win the Big Sky but right now one of the big time schools would kill them, mainly due to mistakes.
 
With regard to your comment about Sonya Rogers:

Robin Selvig is in his 28th season as coach of the Lady Griz and his 33rd year of affiliation with the University of Montana overall. A three-year letterwinner for the Grizzly men's basketball team in the early 70s, Selvig was named UM's women's coach June 6, 1978.

The Lady Griz enjoyed another banner year in 2004-05, something that has become commonplace for the program under Selvig's long-time guidance. Last year Montana went 22-8, its 25th winning season in the last 27 years and its 23rd 20-win season over that stretch.

The Lady Griz won their 19th conference championship, going 13-1 in league play, then hosting and winning the Big Sky Conference tournament. UM advanced to its 16th NCAA tournament, earning a No. 12 seed. In a first-round game of the Kansas City Regional, Montana fell to No. 5 seed Vanderbilt, 67-44.

Selvig earned his 16th conference coach of the year award in the process.

Hollie Tyler became Selvig's 10th Big Sky Conference MVP in 2004-05 and Lynsey Monaco became Montana?s third straight honoree of the league's defensive player of the year award.

Success came quickly for the Lady Griz program under Selvig's guidance and has continued with few interruptions for 27 years. That success has placed his name among the woman's game's most recognized figures in coaching today ? Auriemma, Summitt, VanDerveer ? but to be mentioned with Kentucky's Adolph Rupp, UCLA's John Wooden and Kansas's Phog Allen, some of the most hallowed names in NCAA basketball history'

When Montana defeated Portland State last March 6, Selvig reached 600 career wins, doing so in just 772 games. That made the Lady Griz coach the sixth-fastest coach in NCAA history to reach No. 600, in all NCAA divisions, men's or women's, trailing the likes of Rupp (704), Summitt (734) and Wooden (755), but reaching the milestone faster than North Carolina's Dean Smith (773) and KU?s Allen (780).

With a record of 624 wins and just 181 losses, a winning percentage of .775, in the last quarter-plus century of coaching at Montana, Selvig ranks sixth on the list of winningest active Division I women's basketball coaches, placing his name among his peers Pat Summitt of Tennessee (.837), Geno Auriemma of Connecticut (.834) and Tara VanDerveer of Stanford (.787).

Selvig has directed his alma mater to 20 national tournament appearances ? 16 of those being the NCAA tournament ? 19 conference championships and 16 postseason conference championships. Twenty-five of Selvig's 27 years have been winning seasons and 23 times the Lady Griz have reached 20 victories.

The winningest coach in Big Sky Conference history, Selvig has coached one All-American, 10 conference most valuable players, 70 all-conference players and 87 academic all-conference players.

Selvig's quarter-plus century of success has been impressive in its consistency and has been done with similar methods year after year: defense, turning great crowd support into a dominating home-court advantage and remarkable league performance.

Seven different Montana teams have led the nation in a defensive category. The trend started early in Selvig's career, when his fourth team, 1981-82, led the country in points allowed (53.3 ppg). Four more times the Lady Griz led the nation in scoring defense. Twice they have ranked first in field goal percentage defense.

Prior to Selvig's first year, Montana women's basketball games were attended by an average of fewer than 200 fans. The support the Lady Griz enjoy today (Montana's average home attendance of 3,786 ranked 29th in the nation last year) did not happen overnight, but rather was a gradual process.

By 1982-83 UM had cracked the 1,000 mark for average attendance (1,180). Just five years later, 1987-88, the average had jumped to 3,119 fans per game, which ranked sixth in the nation, and the fans have continued coming to Dahlberg Arena.

Montana averaged a program-high 5,235 fans per game in 1994-95.

The Lady Griz have won 90 percent of their home games under Selvig, going 370-41 (.900).

Montana's success in league play (first the Northwest Women's Basketball league, then the Mountain West Conference, now the Big Sky Conference) under Selvig, on the other hand, was far from gradual. He took a team that went 4-19 in league play in '77 and '78 and turned it into a second-place finisher with his first team in 1978-79.

Selvig's first 20 teams would finish either first or second in their respective conferences. To date Selvig's teams have gone 331-57 in league play, a .853 winning percentage. Perhaps more impressive than the Lady Griz' 179-16 (.918) record at home in those games is their 152-41 road record, a .788 winning percentage.

While Selvig is entering his 28th season on the women's basketball sideline, his association with the university goes back to the fall of 1970, when the Outlook, Mont., native matriculated at UM as a student-athlete himself. Selvig was a four-year member of the Grizzly basketball team, earning second team All-Big Sky honors as a senior. In his final year of competition he was also presented the John Eaheart Award as the team's top defensive player and the Grizzly Cup, given to UM's best all-around athlete, scholar and person.

Selvig graduated in the spring of 1974 with a degree in health and physical education and was inducted into the Grizzly Basketball Hall of Fame in February 1983.

After coaching the Montana men's freshman team to a 10-8 record in 1974-75, Selvig took over the girls' basketball program at Plentywood (Mont.) High School, where he totaled a 38-24 record over three seasons.

Selvig was hired by UM athletic director Harley Lewis as Montana's fourth women's basketball coach on June 6, 1978, taking over a team that had gone 7-13 the previous season.

Selvig's first Montana team finished 13-13 and in second place in the NWBL Mountain Division and in a sign of things to come led the league in scoring defense.

Montana's modest improvement to .500 in Selvig's first year blossomed into a stretch of success that rivals any team?s in the country.

After going 19-10 in 1979-80, Montana went 22-8 in 1980-81, winning the program's first league title. Those years started a string of 19 consecutive winning seasons and 18 straight 20-win seasons.

Montana made its first of 20 national tournament appearances in 1981-82, losing a tight 57-52 decision to Wayland Baptist in the opening round of the AIAW national tournament.

After coaching Montana in the NWBL for four seasons, Selvig and the Lady Griz moved to the Mountain West Conference in 1982-83. Montana dominated that league for six seasons, going 78-6, winning five regular-season league titles and four postseason conference championships and earning four NCAA tournament trips.

In 1982-83 Montana made its first trip to the NCAA national tournament, losing at Louisiana-Monroe, 72-53.

In 1983-84 a breakthrough for the program came when the Lady Griz won their first-ever NCAA tournament game, a 56-47 home-court victory over Oregon State.

Starting with the 1987-88 team, Selvig would take Montana to the NCAA tournament 10 of the next 11 seasons.

When the Lady Griz began Big Sky Conference play in 1988-89, the success they had in the NWBL and MWC did not stop. Montana won the first three Big Sky Conference titles with perfect 16-0 marks and has gone 220-36 in league play overall, winning 11 more conference titles.

In February 2001 Selvig was inducted into the Grizzly Sports Hall of Fame.

Selvig has been recognized often for his coaching. He won his first conference coach of the year honor after the 1981-82 season when the NWBL gave Selvig his first honor. Fifteen more league honors followed, with five Mountain West Athletic Conference and 10 Big Sky Conference coach of the year awards. Selvig has also been named the Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA) District VII Coach of the Year nine times.

Following the 1990-91 season, Selvig was one of three finalists for national coach of the year honors.

An influential member of the Missoula community, Selvig has served as the director of the Montana Special Olympics and as a spokesman for Missoula Youth Homes.
 
HUH? What does Selvig's bio have to do with Sonya...? I hope you are not actually implying "how dare I question his judgement regarding SR's playing time?" It is obvious to me that Robin knows he has a young team needs to get the youngsters on the court. Fortunately he can deal with players under-performing and still get a 22 point win on the road. Mark my words that in a close game, she would not see much time right now. SR may be great some day but she is not yet even good.
 
Grisly Fan said:
HUH? What does Selvig's bio have to do with Sonya...? I hope you are not actually implying "how dare I question his judgement regarding SR's playing time?" It is obvious to me that Robin knows he has a young team needs to get the youngsters on the court. Fortunately he can deal with players under-performing and still get a 22 point win on the road. Mark my words that in a close game, she would not see much time right now. SR may be great some day but she is not yet even good.

I have actually watched Sonya play all home games and she deserves all the playing time she is getting. 13 minutes with only 1 turnover is pretty darn good for a backup point guard.

Mark my words, Sonya has played quite well in much closer games than this, and she will get her 13 to 20 minutes of playing time in just about every game she plays in. And the Lady Griz will win.

Sonya is the best 3 pt shooter on the team at this time making over 50% of her 3 pt shots. She has made more 3 pt attempts than most Lady Griz players so that 50+% isn't exactly insignificant.

Start of the season, Sonya was turning the ball over at least 6 to 10 times a game. Now the most she has turned the ball over is 3, with several games with fewer. Sonya has improved quite a bit this year and is still improving.

She may not have the athletic ability of Mandy, but she handles the ball quite well. Sonya's turnovers tend to be her decisions on passing, and at times she dribbles into traps, or I guess I will bring up a tennis term, dribbles into no-mans land kind of between two opponents with no where to go. Also, Sonya tends to pick up her dribble to soon when there are not any other team mate open. But, there has been very very few turnovers from Sonya's ballhandling. But, experience is often a cure.

I do wish Sonya was able to redshirt this year, it would have helped, but there wasn't the depth at the point guard position this year.

So, Grisly Fan, I respect your opinion but your making a judgement on one game.

Lady Griz would have lost to Portland this year if it weren't for Sonya Rogers. Sonya was the leading scorer in that game. Also, Lady Griz would have lost more in the early season if it also wasn't for her play at point guard while Mandy Morales was out while recuperating from knee surgery.

And yes, bringing up Selvig's coaching credenitials is Grizbacker's defense in any criticism of the Lady Griz.
 
I was at the UP game and don't recall Sonya playing that well. Maybe just an off night against PSU?

I don't see that any coach is beyond rapproach (no rhyme intended). Undoubtedly Robin is good, maybe great, but I have yet to find the person who believes he is perfect. OK, maybe now I have. Still, I don't need to read Robin's resume since he has not applied for any job I have and so will not be hiring him any time soon.
 
Grisly Fan said:
I was at the UP game and don't recall Sonya playing that well. Maybe just an off night against PSU?

I don't see that any coach is beyond rapproach (no rhyme intended). Undoubtedly Robin is good, maybe great, but I have yet to find the person who believes he is perfect. OK, maybe now I have. Still, I don't need to read Robin's resume since he has not applied for any job I have and so will not be hiring him any time soon.

Sonya lead the team with 15 points against Portland. Sonya and Guardipee were the only players that shot the ball well in that game.

Coaches do look at players on how they are doing based on their experience and level differently than fans. Sonya does have things she needs to work on, but she is doing some things well enough to get the playing time.

My view for a backup point guard who is a true freshman, is that if the player doesn't turn the ball over to often, which she sure didn't against PSU, she has filled her role very well.

PSU, I believe, leads the league or are near the top in steals or creating turnovers, which really puts an emphasis on ballhandling for the opposing team. Evidently, Mandy had some problems having turned the ball over 10 times, but Sonya only turned it over 1 time. So, she may not have looked pretty doing it, which may lead many fans to believe she isn't playing well. But she has been performing her role as backup to Mandy and Conway quite well despite the fact that she does make some mistakes or not look well doing it.

Anyway, no coach or player is perfect. Lady Griz will always be near or at the top of the Big Sky. Seems to be okay for most fans.
 
Grisly Fan said:
I was at the UP game and don't recall Sonya playing that well. Maybe just an off night against PSU?

I don't see that any coach is beyond rapproach (no rhyme intended). Undoubtedly Robin is good, maybe great, but I have yet to find the person who believes he is perfect. OK, maybe now I have. Still, I don't need to read Robin's resume since he has not applied for any job I have and so will not be hiring him any time soon.

So you can have an opinion and I can't? I seriously doubt you have attended many games and watched Sonya play to say what you did. If you have been in attendance then I submit you know jack about basketball. Selvig has forgotten more than you will ever know.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
Grisly Fan said:
I was at the UP game and don't recall Sonya playing that well. Maybe just an off night against PSU?

I don't see that any coach is beyond rapproach (no rhyme intended). Undoubtedly Robin is good, maybe great, but I have yet to find the person who believes he is perfect. OK, maybe now I have. Still, I don't need to read Robin's resume since he has not applied for any job I have and so will not be hiring him any time soon.

So you can have an opinion and I can't? I seriously doubt you have attended many games and watched Sonya play to say what you did. If you have been in attendance then I submit you know jack about basketball. Selvig has forgotten more than you will ever know.

So, Grisly Fan writes something that you disagree with and you think that Grisly Fan doesn't think you can't have an opinion?

We all have our own opinions. I guess it seems you get offended quite a bit when somebody differs from yours, or one bit critical of a player or coach. It is like they are attacking you, which they aren't.
 
I didn't say anything about him when I posted Robins resume. I didn't attack him at all. I would have left it at that had he not replied as he did. He could have left it alone and chose not to. I thought it was a cheap shot toward Sonya and totally unsupported by any basis in fact. Do you think he has seen her play much with that comment?
 
Given that I live 600 miles away from Missoula, I have seen her as much as I can. Call me an idiot if you choose but I actually attended the game to form my opinion as distarted as it might be, not just read it in the stat sheets. BTW - I went back and looked at ther stats and she has had a few good games then games where she does nothing much. Granted she is a freshman and that is to be expected (and I said as much when I commented on the youth of the team as a whole). My disagreement with your posting Selvig's bio is that it added NOTHING to the conversation. If all we did here is post facts then heck let's see your resume and I'll post mine then we will let everyone else judge who knows more. Better yet, when you disagree with a post why don't you just say that it was an unwarranted cheapshot and supply the evidence to back it up. A guy like me would be inclined to apologize if so persuaded.

I once accused Grizzle of being a shill for Griz athletics. You are filling in nicely in his absence.
 
Grisly Fan said:
Given that I live 600 miles away from Missoula, I have seen her as much as I can. Call me an idiot if you choose but I actually attended the game to form my opinion as distarted as it might be, not just read it in the stat sheets. BTW - I went back and looked at ther stats and she has had a few good games then games where she does nothing much. Granted she is a freshman and that is to be expected (and I said as much when I commented on the youth of the team as a whole). My disagreement with your posting Selvig's bio is that it added NOTHING to the conversation. If all we did here is post facts then heck let's see your resume and I'll post mine then we will let everyone else judge who knows more. Better yet, when you disagree with a post why don't you just say that it was an unwarranted cheapshot and supply the evidence to back it up. A guy like me would be inclined to apologize if so persuaded.

I once accused Grizzle of being a shill for Griz athletics. You are filling in nicely in his absence.

You added so much credibility with that. But it was as I suspected, one game analysis...what a surprise. Sonya could probably score 50 on you. :dance:
 
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