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[citygriz]

GrizLA: When I wrote, "I THINK I understand some of your references," I was alluding to those issues raised by you and citay. I believe coach Schweyen will broaden the scope of this program significantly... though It probably will not be visible for another couple of years.

Citay: Don't forget Rudolph, "Zip" Rhoades, who was my hero back in 1952-53 when he dazzled on court... before both Ray and Naseby played... though Naseby's and Zip's careers overlapped a bit, if my memory serves me correctly.

Oh, jeez. How could I have forgotten Zip, and the Fabulous Frosh! Those candy-striped shorts! And don't forget his classmate, Ray Howard, from my hometown of Helena. Ray suffered a knee injury that today would have put him on the shelf for about six months, but back then was career-ending. How sad.

As I think back on it, it is absolutely incredible that two such terrific African-American players would both come out of Montana in exactly the same year. Both had offers from out-of-state, but both agreed they would stay in Montana if--and only if-- the other stayed as well. So Jiggs Dahlberg, who recruited them, was constantly going back and forth, suppressing rumors, and re-assuring each that the other was coming to Missoula, which they finally did. I believe that was the same year they opened the Field House too, an incredible edifice in its day, when the (then) Runnin' Redskins from Utah were playing in a stuffy smelly bandbox of a gym extravagantly called Einer Nielsen Fieldhouse.

Naesby well preceded Ray Lucien as an athlete, but of course remained on as athletic trainer for so many years. Ray once described a fight that broke out among the players when the Griz were playing a road game, whereupon Nase waded in, grabbed a couple of their players, and that was that, the fight was over before it started. Great guy Rinehart.

http://www.mtmemory.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16013coll27/id/1452


My grandfather told me all this....

 

[GrizLA]

GrizLA: When I wrote, "I THINK I understand some of your references," I was alluding to those issues raised by you and citay. I believe coach Schweyen will broaden the scope of this program significantly... though It probably will not be visible for another couple of years.

Citay: Don't forget Rudolph, "Zip" Rhoades, who was my hero back in 1952-53 when he dazzled on court... before both Ray and Naseby played... though Naseby's and Zip's careers overlapped a bit, if my memory serves me correctly.

Oh, jeez. How could I have forgotten Zip, and the Fabulous Frosh! Those candy-striped shorts! And don't forget his classmate, Ray Howard, from my hometown of Helena. Ray suffered a knee injury that today would have put him on the shelf for about six months, but back then was career-ending. How sad.

As I think back on it, it is absolutely incredible that two such terrific African-American players would both come out of Montana in exactly the same year. Both had offers from out-of-state, but both agreed they would stay in Montana if--and only if-- the other stayed as well. So Jiggs Dahlberg, who recruited them, was constantly going back and forth, suppressing rumors, and re-assuring each that the other was coming to Missoula, which they finally did. I believe that was the same year they opened the Field House too, an incredible edifice in its day, when the (then) Runnin' Redskins from Utah were playing in a stuffy smelly bandbox of a gym extravagantly called Einer Nielsen Fieldhouse.

Naesby well preceded Ray Lucien as an athlete, but of course remained on as athletic trainer for so many years. Ray once described a fight that broke out among the players when the Griz were playing a road game, whereupon Nase waded in, grabbed a couple of their players, and that was that, the fight was over before it started. Great guy Rinehart.

http://www.mtmemory.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16013coll27/id/1452


My grandfather told me all this....

Naesby was a campus legend and good friend when I was at UM. I almost left Montana but he offered some sound advice to encourage me. I haven't thought of that for years. But, I went on to have a very good life from that point. Can't remember, for the life of me, just what it was, but whatever, it worked. He never settled for being average.

 

[GrizLA]

Look!!! lala is spewing negativity about a Griz BB program. Why, that's completely different....

NEXT YEAR! All those freshmen will be sophomores with lots of game experience. Valley and Sims will be back, and hopefully 100%. Two highly thought-of freshman (Stiles and Anderson) will be on the team. It will be the year of redemption and revenge!

....and lala might "tune in" during the BSC Tourney with no idea how the season has gone. And will then make comments on e-Griz, but only if he has something negative to spew.

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

LA, with all due respect, you cannot find one person posting in the BB section claim that LG team doesn't need improvement. Hell, plenty of weaknesses and areas of opportunity have been outlined in this very thread.

The point is that while we can be objective in a negative manner but also recognize upside, you seem to consistently struggle with the latter.

Shouldn't you be on the picket line in front of the Big Sky Offices?

 

[GrizLA]

"GrizLA wrote:

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

The problem, La De Da, is that you're just not very good.
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So, I can only assume you were sitting behind the Lady Griz bench proving your true dedication and support. Good for you.

 

[GrizLA]

Hey LAGriz! If you think the Lady Griz should widen their recruiting area, improve their quickness and shooting ability, and aim for a goal more lofty than simply a Big Sky championship, come sit next to me!

That would be ok...lots to talk about.

 

[EverettGriz]

NEXT YEAR! All those freshmen will be sophomores with lots of game experience. Valley and Sims will be back, and hopefully 100%. Two highly thought-of freshman (Stiles and Anderson) will be on the team. It will be the year of redemption and revenge!

....and lala might "tune in" during the BSC Tourney with no idea how the season has gone. And will then make comments on e-Griz, but only if he has something negative to spew.

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

LA, with all due respect, you cannot find one person posting in the BB section claim that LG team doesn't need improvement. Hell, plenty of weaknesses and areas of opportunity have been outlined in this very thread.

The point is that while we can be objective in a negative manner but also recognize upside, you seem to consistently struggle with the latter.

Shouldn't you be on the picket line in front of the Big Sky Offices?

So, you're effectively saying you have no reasonable reply to my post, because you recognize it's spot on. It's nice we agree for a change.

 

[GrizLA]

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

LA, with all due respect, you cannot find one person posting in the BB section claim that LG team doesn't need improvement. Hell, plenty of weaknesses and areas of opportunity have been outlined in this very thread.

The point is that while we can be objective in a negative manner but also recognize upside, you seem to consistently struggle with the latter.

Shouldn't you be on the picket line in front of the Big Sky Offices?

So, you're effectively saying you have no reasonable reply to my post, because you recognize it's spot on. It's nice we agree for a change.

Nice try to deflect, but your reading comprehension skills seem limited. I like the Big Sky Conf. and think Montana is a perfect fit.

 

[TrueGriz]

Well, there has been one change already that may or should have an effect in the future. No longer is the coaching staff consisting of all Former Lady Griz players.
I am thinking Petrino would still have good connections to good basketball players in Colorado where he last coached.
also, Shannon is going to have to make another coaching hire after this season or after next season as Eric Hays was hired on to coach one season, maybe 2.
I am just hoping the assistant coach that will be replacing Eric Hays will bring added diversity to the coaching staff. Like a black Coach who can entice some good black players to come here. But that will likely be further down the road as Eric Hays has not retired yet

And, Citay, there were 3 African-Americans that played for the Lady Griz. Vicki Austin, Tiana Ware, and Shaunte-nance Johnson. I am betting you forgot about Tiana Ware. And, really, only one of those black players really fit into the Lady Griz system, although I am sure someone may argue differently on the other two.

 

[Plainsman]

Too bad the Lady Griz didn't land Jill Barta, formerly of Fairfield. Does anyone know if MSU or UM or both offered her? She went off for 37 points (as a Sophomore) to help the Lady Zags win the WCC tourney today. An absolutely phenomenal performance.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Too bad the Lady Griz didn't land Jill Barta, formerly of Fairfield. Does anyone know if MSU or UM or both offered her? She went off for 37 points (as a Sophomore) to help the Lady Zags win the WCC tourney today. An absolutely phenomenal performance.

UM and MSU both recruited her, but she pretty much verballed to Gonzaga her Sophomore year and didn't really consider anyone else.

 

[grizzlyjournal]

GrizLA: When I wrote, "I THINK I understand some of your references," I was alluding to those issues raised by you and citay. I believe coach Schweyen will broaden the scope of this program significantly... though It probably will not be visible for another couple of years.

Citay: Don't forget Rudolph, "Zip" Rhoades, who was my hero back in 1952-53 when he dazzled on court... before both Ray and Naseby played... though Naseby's and Zip's careers overlapped a bit, if my memory serves me correctly.

Oh, jeez. How could I have forgotten Zip, and the Fabulous Frosh! Those candy-striped shorts! And don't forget his classmate, Ray Howard, from my hometown of Helena. Ray suffered a knee injury that today would have put him on the shelf for about six months, but back then was career-ending. How sad.

As I think back on it, it is absolutely incredible that two such terrific African-American players would both come out of Montana in exactly the same year. Both had offers from out-of-state, but both agreed they would stay in Montana if--and only if-- the other stayed as well. So Jiggs Dahlberg, who recruited them, was constantly going back and forth, suppressing rumors, and re-assuring each that the other was coming to Missoula, which they finally did. I believe that was the same year they opened the Field House too, an incredible edifice in its day, when the (then) Runnin' Redskins from Utah were playing in a stuffy smelly bandbox of a gym extravagantly called Einer Nielsen Fieldhouse.

Naesby well preceded Ray Lucien as an athlete, but of course remained on as athletic trainer for so many years. Ray once described a fight that broke out among the players when the Griz were playing a road game, whereupon Nase waded in, grabbed a couple of their players, and that was that, the fight was over before it started. Great guy Rinehart.

http://www.mtmemory.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16013coll27/id/1452


My grandfather told me all this....

Naesby was a campus legend and good friend when I was at UM. I almost left Montana but he offered some sound advice to encourage me. I haven't thought of that for years. But, I went on to have a very good life from that point. Can't remember, for the life of me, just what it was, but whatever, it worked. He never settled for being average.

I took Jud Heathcote's "Coaching Basketball" course in 1972 or 73, which was a blast... but a very tough class. Part of the class was a mini-section of 3-4 hours where Naseby taught how to wrap ankles, and gave instruction on shoulder taping to prevent overextension. Our test was to successfully (and neatly) wrap an ankle. Fun, but everyone in the course was completely intimidated by Naseby. There was absolutely no loss of focus while he was lecturing. Scared me far more than my TI in basic training did. BTW: I think I could still coach Jud's classic Hi-Lo offense.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I like the Big Sky Conf. and think Montana is a perfect fit.

Yet you take every chance to complain about and criticize both.

 

[GrizLA]

I like the Big Sky Conf. and think Montana is a perfect fit.

Yet you take every chance to complain about and criticize both.

not really. You choose to think so. But, I think the Big Sky and Montana are a perfect fit...is that good or bad...you decide. But, I also note that you seem overly critical of a lot of things....

 

[griz71]

I like the Big Sky Conf. and think Montana is a perfect fit.

Yet you take every chance to complain about and criticize both.

not really. You choose to think so. But, I think the Big Sky and Montana are a perfect fit...is that good or bad...you decide. But, I also note that you seem overly critical of a lot of things....

So from these typically negative posts of LA and similar contrarian prose from grizinthebox (from Spokane) one might suspect those lads could be brothers from a different mother! :lol:

 

[fanofzoo]

How much better would the BSC be if half the teams weren't in it.

 

[fanofzoo]

How much better would the BSC be if half the teams weren't in it.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I like the Big Sky Conf. and think Montana is a perfect fit.

Yet you take every chance to complain about and criticize both.

not really. You choose to think so. But, I think the Big Sky and Montana are a perfect fit...is that good or bad...you decide. But, I also note that you seem overly critical of a lot of things....

So from these typically negative posts of LA and similar contrarian prose from grizinthebox (from Spokane) one might suspect those lads could be brothers from a different mother! :lol:

Sweet post bro....

 

[Fat Bruno]

Well, it's clear to me that without some inner city posters, this site will never be worth a damn.

City? You got that right. But grew up in Helena. And where I live is hardly "inner." Actually, rhymes with "snob."

No … I’m talking about guys who can rap … shake up this plodding team of slow posters and ground bound punsters with some lightning prose and high flying verbal dunks.

 

[Fat Bruno]

"GrizLA wrote:

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

The problem, La De Da, is that you're just not very good.

So, I can only assume you were sitting behind the Lady Griz bench proving your true dedication and support. Good for you.

Oh, that's lame. Another white boy who can't jump.

 

[GrizLA]

"GrizLA wrote:

Oh, I forgot, this is Egriz where UM is always absolutely the tops in everything and no improvement is needed and all must think alike. No negativity on this board, for sure. All I read from the same tired people is either move up, the Big Sky sucks, we are in a death spiral, etc.....yes, I will look in again next year. But, I don't get the part where such highly "supportive" fans were not sitting behind the women's team in Reno cheering them on over all odds.

The problem, La De Da, is that you're just not very good.

So, I can only assume you were sitting behind the Lady Griz bench proving your true dedication and support. Good for you.

Oh, that's lame. Another white boy who can't jump.

Nor would I want to. So, you were in Reno and supporting the GRIZ! Good for you.