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Kudos for Chalich

garizzalies said:
grizindabox said:
garizzalies said:
I agree with Hav.
Everyone is focusing on Brady's performance vs CP and Liberty, which makes sense as he did not look nearly as good. I get that. But people are not focusing on the real issue: if a qb cannot make the dynamic reads in a timely fashion, this offense will never accomplish what it is meant to do, and will be just another pass-happy or one-dimensional BSC offence. Brady can make those reads, and fast. He proved that vs. NDSU. I even witnessed it vs CP; altho he was off, he still at least attempted to make the reads. I'm not sure Chalich can, or can do so fast enough. Maybe he has and I missed it; or maybe they haven't called it, which should tell you something. (I'm not talking about post-snap zone-run-reads. Reading a DE for a handoff and reading a safety for a pass are light-years different). Thus, with Brady, this offense's ceiling is much higher. Again, I'm no expert but it appeared to me that every pass play Chalich has called was a predetermined route and not a dynamic read = playbook cut in half.
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And yet the production by Chalich is comparable to BG over the past 3 games in spite of the offensive playbook...but all people want to base things on is the NDSU game....question is what is more likely from BG, his game 1 performance or his game 2-3 performance...I would say the jury is still very much out on that one
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I don't give a f*** about stats/paper; I only believe what my two eyes show me. And, are you trying to compare NDSU's D to Lib's/CP's? I'm sure you get the difference there.
I agree the jury is still out on Brady because of the small sample size. I'm not trying to sell him as the best qb ever, but I do think he is the best qb we got for THIS offense.
And I don't think a qb running predetermined routes would have beat NDSU. Only someone who can do the dynamic reads could pull that off.
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Looking at how BG played, seems NDSU was not as good....but looks can be deceiving I guess....huh...

And the dynamic reads didn't seem to work so much against those poor Poly and Liberty defenses...at least when comparing to NDSU.....
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
I only believe what my two eyes show me. And, are you trying to compare NDSU's D to Lib's/CP's? I'm sure you get the difference there.
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Then why didn't he shred those two D's?
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Who fucking knows? Maybe he had the shits that day. Also, I heard he may have broken his leg in the other game. The point is either: 1) the coach has enuf confidence in him to at least send in the dynamic read plays, and/or 2) when Brady gets those calls, he at least attempts to make the reads. I'm not seeing either when Chalich is in there but maybe I've missed it or maybe its coming.
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
I haven't been able to watch either the Liberty game or the NAU game...
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I stopped reading after your first sentence.
You sound a lot like D2 in this thread. Come on, you're better than that
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Better than what? I live in Texas. The games haven't been available on any television, OR on gogriz.com's mythical "all access".
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FWIW I was able to watch the Liberty game for free at the stream2watch website.
 
Grisly Fan said:
I have heard what Stitt said and believe I understand why he said it yet I am not so sure that BG is a shoe-in when he becomes healthy. Stitt wants and needs to win (shocker huh?) and I believe he will be very pragmatic about it. It seems to be his style. If Chalich can get this offense rolling and take this team to 5-2 I think BG will have to earn the position back, either in practice or in reps on the field. I doubt Stitt simply flips the switch back in that circumstance. To extend this scenario, imagine that BG lost that first game back; I believe any honeymoon would then officially be over.
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I agree. I know Coach Stitt really likes BG's brain on running this offense, but I also think that if CC has the offense on a roll I'm not sure Stitt can hook CC. Im not sure Stitt even knows right now what he would do in that scenario.
 
Hammer said:
Grisly Fan said:
I have heard what Stitt said and believe I understand why he said it yet I am not so sure that BG is a shoe-in when he becomes healthy. Stitt wants and needs to win (shocker huh?) and I believe he will be very pragmatic about it. It seems to be his style. If Chalich can get this offense rolling and take this team to 5-2 I think BG will have to earn the position back, either in practice or in reps on the field. I doubt Stitt simply flips the switch back in that circumstance. To extend this scenario, imagine that BG lost that first game back; I believe any honeymoon would then officially be over.
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I agree. I know Coach Stitt really likes BG's brain on running this offense, but I also think that if CC has the offense on a roll I'm not sure Stitt can hook CC. Im not sure Stitt even knows right now what he would do in that scenario.
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In addition, when that time comes, CC is going to have twice as much game experience in this offense than Gus will. Let's just hope Gus will be healthy, we're 5-2, and Stitt has to make that decision!
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
I only believe what my two eyes show me. And, are you trying to compare NDSU's D to Lib's/CP's? I'm sure you get the difference there.
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Then why didn't he shred those two D's?
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FWIW, during last wel's coaches show they brought up that the Liberty CB said he knew when BG was throwing to Jones by a look he gave him. Sounds like a tell that Liberty and possibly Cal Poly picked up that would make it difficult to run the plays you want to run successfully, and might explain the drop off in BG's performance for those 2 games. Plus having film to work off of after the NDSU game.
 
Grizbeer said:
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
I only believe what my two eyes show me. And, are you trying to compare NDSU's D to Lib's/CP's? I'm sure you get the difference there.
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Then why didn't he shred those two D's?
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FWIW, during last wel's coaches show they brought up that the Liberty CB said he knew when BG was throwing to Jones by a look he gave him. Sounds like a tell that Liberty and possibly Cal Poly picked up that would make it difficult to run the plays you want to run successfully, and might explain the drop off in BG's performance for those 2 games. Plus having film to work off of after the NDSU game.
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How about the fact that he stared down every receiver he was going to throw to, and never went through his progressions? Seems like he had his mind made up before the ball was every snapped...
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grizbeer said:
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
I only believe what my two eyes show me. And, are you trying to compare NDSU's D to Lib's/CP's? I'm sure you get the difference there.
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Then why didn't he shred those two D's?
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FWIW, during last wel's coaches show they brought up that the Liberty CB said he knew when BG was throwing to Jones by a look he gave him. Sounds like a tell that Liberty and possibly Cal Poly picked up that would make it difficult to run the plays you want to run successfully, and might explain the drop off in BG's performance for those 2 games. Plus having film to work off of after the NDSU game.
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How about the fact that he stared down every receiver he was going to throw to, and never went through his progressions? Seems like he had his mind made up before the ball was every snapped...
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Might have had something to do with the fact that he knew he was going to get (and did get) his clock cleaned if he didn't get the ball off in a few seconds? Chalich is better off in that regard thanks to his pocket mobility and ability to scramble if nothing's there.
 
AZGrizFan said:
AllWeatherFan said:
grizindabox said:
havgrizfan said:
NDSU is the best team in the FCS. PERIOD
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Only the fans of the team that beat them a few games ago, and possibly that team as well. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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After this weekend the SDSU fans and team will dispute it.
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I believe that's a possibility as well. :thumb:
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As do I. I was only able to see the limited game hi-lite package dropped today. Credit where it is due, thanks to GG for providing. Chalich looked better than the week prior, some of that due to a better running game and o-Line outing. Give the kid a chance. Brady had the yips, my opinion, which is why he was missing so many receivers. Guiding the ball more than throwing it. He's a capable guy, but my hope is that Chalich will give Stitt something to ponder before just reverting back.
 
Htowngriz said:
Might have had something to do with the fact that he knew he was going to get (and did get) his clock cleaned if he didn't get the ball off in a few seconds? Chalich is better off in that regard thanks to his pocket mobility and ability to scramble if nothing's there.
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This. Many times a "broken" play is a good play, but it takes a QB able to improvise when the original call breaks down. That's what a scrambling QB can do, esp. on the FCS level.
 
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