Krakauer getting defensive?

[GrizPony]

Here. This should do it. From VICE Sports, a very small portion of a lengthy article. I guess everyone saw what unfolded at the end a little differently. Happy 20 and you're welcome!

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/sexual-assault-and-jon-krakauers-missoula-in-missoula


At the end, the audience gave Krakauer a second standing ovation. There wasn't to be a public Q&A, and instead the organizers intended to point the audience to the representatives present for local sexual assault resources, and to thank the special guests in the audience, some of the women who had shared their stories with Krakauer. Before the applause died down, a man came up to the stage and grabbed the microphone that had been in front of Abramson.

"Thomas Dove, D-O-V-E," he said, holding up a stack of papers. They were most likely the 11-page letter that the five-year Missoula resident and retired attorney sent to Doubleday and local news outlets before publication. The letter used quotations from cranky one-star Amazon.com reviews and comparisons of Missoula to Rolling Stone's UVA story to attack Krakauer's accuracy and claim that publication of the book would "be injurious to the University, the town, and the state in which it is set."

Dove, in the way men do at such events, said he had a question, after which he proceeded to talk for a really long time about his own qualifications as audience members heckled him. Krakauer, losing patience, walked over, said "Let me just take that away and just ask me face to face and I'll tell you." He took the mic from Dove and came down from the stage to stand in front of the taller, angrier man.

At this point, his Montana attorney Mike Meloy—he's the father of Decemberists bandleader Colin and author Maile—stood up between the two. Krakauer, tiring of waiting for an actual question, walked away and Dove continued into a tirade, yelling "He writes for money!" The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.

Dove's actions were a surprise to the audience, but he had warned Theroux and Abramson before the event that he intended to ask Krakauer questions. "We knew there was a possibility, the hotel, everybody was alerted. But you know you can't get defensive, that's not what the night was about either," said Theroux. "And you just hope you can react and control anything before it does get out of hand. And quite frankly, it was one person."

Theroux came to the mic to announce that everyone was welcome to speak with the First Step and SARC representatives in the back. By then, everyone was already out of their seats and heading for the exits, one man's declamations having seized the evening's focus. It was over.

That is the most deranged and mythical account of what happened. The author was either blacked out drunk or taking shrooms

This account is completely debunked by the actual video of the occurrence. Is this person that agenda-driven that they can't believe what they see and hear? Wow is all I can say.

 

[UMGriz75]

... but he had warned Theroux and Abramson before the event that he intended to ask Krakauer questions. "We knew there was a possibility, the hotel, everybody was alerted. But you know you can't get defensive, that's not what the night was about either," said Theroux. "And you just hope you can react and control anything before it does get out of hand. And quite frankly, it was one person."

Read that piece of droll apologetics.

Krakauer announces he's going to come to Missoula to "confront his critics." Instead, he insisted on a tightly controlled setting with the Dean of the Journalism school playing the willing stooge for the narrative, asking poofy questions of the caliber and depth of "what is your favorite color?"

A bookstore representative, Theroux, sounding for all the world like a Soviet apparatchik, AGITATED that someone had threatened to ASK A QUESTION.

We knew there was the possibility, the hotel, EVERYBODY WAS ALERTED. ... You just hope you can react and control anything before it gets out of hand.

The People's Republic of Missoula, using the identical words that a totalitarian shill might use anywhere, appalled, aghast that someone had THREATENED TO ASK A QUESTION.

Quite frankly, it was one person!

Quite frankly! It's hard to tell if Theroux was intending to be self-mocking, or she's oblivious. These people lack self-embarrassment genes. Or they are so consumed by their own ideological bias that they don't even get it: They are the problem, the self-appointed censors, the promoters of staged events and controlled presentations of the narrative; all the while the erstwhile defenders of freedom, the Dean of the Journalism school nods his little head in approval, and the seller of books rejects any notion that a public forum might be ... a public forum.

 

[UMGriz75]

Dove, in the way men do at such events ...

An interesting, albeit sexist, acknowledgment that no other "men" were at the event, just emasculated versions of politically correct hollow shells, too far inland to be inhabited by Hermit Crabs and at least do some good for the Earth.

 

[Umista]

Thanks 75 for your words of wit. Loved the "politically correct hollow shells" and way to far inland....

Yes, this thread will hit 21+

 

[statler & waldorf]

:thumb: 31! If the Krak hadn't written his POS, none of this would exist, so we would have to find something ELSE to write about. I don't see Chris bitchin'

 

[super_eagle13]

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[UMGriz75]

The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.

The angry "crowd ...?"

"Breaking the no Q&A rule?"

Who do these people think Krakauer is? Hillary Clinton?

A Missoula "crowd" advocates outright censorship; shutting down discussion, an opportunity for debate?

The thin line between "crowd" and "mob" was easily crossed with that bunch.

 

[MrTitleist]

They weren't there to hear an opinion different than what they'd already made up in their heads.

 

[Allezchat]

They weren't there to hear an opinion different than what they'd already made up in their heads.

The same can be said about egrizzers, by and large, coming to this thread.....

 

[AZGrizFan]

The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.

The angry "crowd ...?"

"Breaking the no Q&A rule?"

Who do these people think Krakauer is? Hillary Clinton?

A Missoula "crowd" advocates outright censorship; shutting down discussion, an opportunity for debate?

The thin line between "crowd" and "mob" was easily crossed with that bunch.

Hadn't he (Crackwhore) ostensibly come to Missoula SPECIFICALLY to answer questions? :roll: :roll:

 

[UMGriz75]

Krakauer previously said he wasn't planning a tour or any other public appearances to promote the book, but he wanted to give critics in Missoula the chance to confront him.

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/05/jon-krakauer-semi-exposes-himself-to.html

So Krakauer purported to offer his critics in Missoula a chance to confront him, and he got a comfortable event to be staged somehow, through the auspices of the University of Montana, which has a big interest in shoring up its reputation. (The book is about things that happened to the university's students.)

Epic fail as an exercise in rehabilitation. The man writes a book about how the fix is in and then tries to burnish his reputation by participating in an event where the fix is clearly in.

Who was his press consultant, Hillary Clinton?

 

[Allezchat]

The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.

The angry "crowd ...?"

"Breaking the no Q&A rule?"

Who do these people think Krakauer is? Hillary Clinton?

A Missoula "crowd" advocates outright censorship; shutting down discussion, an opportunity for debate?

The thin line between "crowd" and "mob" was easily crossed with that bunch.

Hadn't he (Crackwhore) ostensibly come to Missoula SPECIFICALLY to answer questions? :roll: :roll:

Didn't he?......previously submitted questions by email, but he did answer questions. People are acting like he lied about it. He fooled all of us. We assumed he would answer live questions.

 

[Fahque]

 

[AZGrizFan]

The crowd began to boo, angry that Dove was breaking the no Q&A rule; a hotel employee used the PA to make an announcement that they could please move to the exits, bringing an end to the evening.

The angry "crowd ...?"

"Breaking the no Q&A rule?"

Who do these people think Krakauer is? Hillary Clinton?

A Missoula "crowd" advocates outright censorship; shutting down discussion, an opportunity for debate?

The thin line between "crowd" and "mob" was easily crossed with that bunch.

Hadn't he (Crackwhore) ostensibly come to Missoula SPECIFICALLY to answer questions? :roll: :roll:

Didn't he?......previously submitted questions by email, but he did answer questions. People are acting like he lied about it. He fooled all of us. We assumed he would answer live questions.

Where did the attorney get the microphone? It appeared it was handed to him. Was the event not set up for questions from the attendees?

 

[PlayerRep]

The dean handed the mic to the lawyer. The lawyer told the dean before the event that he wanted to ask some questions. The lawyer seemed respectful on the video. It was some in the crowd and Krakauer who were not respectful to the lawyer.

 

[GrizPony]

It was a staged event clearly. The one "critic" got two admissions from the hack then got his mic taken away while idiots yelled and booed. The "journalism" Dean seems to lack any idea of what journalist's are supposed to do. Sad.

 

[poorgriz]

But don't forget, he had zero obligation to travel to Missoula, he just decided to do it. Whether it was all for publicity or what, who knows - but he really has no obligation to answer some lawyer's questions at all.

 

[AZGrizFan]

But don't forget, he had zero obligation to travel to Missoula, he just decided to do it. Whether it was all for publicity or what, who knows - but he really has no obligation to answer some lawyer's questions at all.

I'm surprised he didn't prescreen all the "questions" to ensure they were ones he wanted to answer and that fit his agenda. :roll: :roll:

 

[EverettGriz]

Who cares? The book is a bomb (it's 9 places behind a book about Joan Rivers. JOAN effing RIVERS!!!). It's not even near Amazon's Top 100. Let it die the same death as the career of the assistant publisher that thought the book concept was a good one.

 

[firmgriz]

Who cares? The book is a bomb (it's 9 places behind a book about Joan Rivers. JOAN effing RIVERS!!!). It's not even near Amazon's Top 100. Let it die the same death as the career of the assistant publisher that thought the book concept was a good one.

Yes, just let it die.