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Krakauer getting defensive?

Washgrizfan1 said:
Missoulian getting defensive too. Word getting around that Missoulian is not printing some letters to editors that disagree with the Missoulian's agenda and are also not posting or deleting some comments (to articles) that disagree with their agenda.

Has happened to me on several occasions. Devlin is very protective of Florio. This, I know.
 
tnt said:
In the "notorious gang rape situation," there was clear video evidence that the victim was lying. In fact it could be argued she was the actual rapist taking advantage of several drunk men (boys.) How she managed to become a "victim" again is beyond me. How Krakauer ignored that in his research is beyond me.

The JJ situation is the bugger, Krakauer danced around it in the book. For some reason he decided to retry it at the meetin'

The Jury got it right. That doesn't mean the university "court" got it wrong. There were and should be two different sets of standards when it comes to providing a safe environment for all students. You just don't change standards mid stream

If there was evidence to that claim, wouldn't it be in police custody? Wouldn't the DA office acknowledge that? Sounds iffy to me but would be the holy grail.
 
signedbewildered said:
Washgrizfan1 said:
Missoulian getting defensive too. Word getting around that Missoulian is not printing some letters to editors that disagree with the Missoulian's agenda and are also not posting or deleting some comments (to articles) that disagree with their agenda.

Has happened to me on several occasions. Devlin is very protective of Florio. This, I know.


When it finally all comes out I wonder how long that allegiance will hold.
 
super_eagle13 said:
Washgrizfan1 said:
Missoulian getting defensive too. Word getting around that Missoulian is not printing some letters to editors that disagree with the Missoulian's agenda and are also not posting or deleting some comments (to articles) that disagree with their agenda.
They're only noticing this now because it's the first issue they've cared enough about to pay attention to. Give them another month to realize that it goes all the way to the top and you'll have yourself another Howard Beale.
As Hillary once famously said, inadvertently, "I'm completely transparent." The Missoulian will allow some of the foulest posters, in complete violation of their posting policies, to troll endlessly IF the posters defend a certain type of political belief. If not, "banned" for imperceptible indiscretions.

This is what happens in a "liberal democracy" when the "control of the institutions" becomes civil warfare, in which one side is dedicated to it, and the other side, that works for a living, doesn't even realize there "is" a "war." The Missoulian has become very much a part of it; Florio and Kidston are permitted to write virtual editorials masquerading as "news," dissenting voices are ruthlessly suppressed, and the Journalism Dean bequeaths knighthoods to those who are most effective at promoting "the narrative and the meme."

It has become a captured relic.

It will wonder why its circulation continues to fall.
 
Bobcatmaniac said:
statler & waldorf said:
Patience, poorgriz, puberty is coming.
I think this EXACT same thing every time I read anything here. Have to drop my IQ at least by 100. Go nap now boys
Considering where that IQ must have started at Wombat Nation, double digit negative figures must be physically painful, just walking around. Who were you forced to ask to make your post for you?
 
Bobcatmaniac said:
statler & waldorf said:
Patience, poorgriz, puberty is coming.
I think this EXACT same thing every time I read anything here. Have to drop my IQ at least by 100. Go nap now boys

That would put you at about -40. About the same as the point spread in the Brawl.
 
signedbewildered said:
Washgrizfan1 said:
Missoulian getting defensive too. Word getting around that Missoulian is not printing some letters to editors that disagree with the Missoulian's agenda and are also not posting or deleting some comments (to articles) that disagree with their agenda.

Has happened to me on several occasions. Devlin is very protective of Florio. This, I know.
Yeah, I know that too.
 
super_eagle13 said:
UMGriz75 said:
Florio and Kidston are permitted to write virtual editorials masquerading as "news," dissenting voices are ruthlessly suppressed, and the Journalism Dean bequeaths knighthoods to those who are most effective at promoting "the narrative and the meme."

I never really understood why there is such a thing as "journalism school." Isn't news reporting like most other unskilled trades that one learns by doing? Just pick up a few legal rules-of-thumb, know your i-before-e's and you get your reporter's license, right?

Many journalists write so poorly. I wonder why people pay them to write.
A journalist might write the above: Many journalists write so poorly that I wonder why they are paid by people to write.
 
fanofzoo said:
tnt said:
In the "notorious gang rape situation," there was clear video evidence that the victim was lying. In fact it could be argued she was the actual rapist taking advantage of several drunk men (boys.) How she managed to become a "victim" again is beyond me. How Krakauer ignored that in his research is beyond me.
If there was evidence to that claim, wouldn't it be in police custody? Wouldn't the DA office acknowledge that? Sounds iffy to me but would be the holy grail.
It was. That is why, twice, the "DA" refused to press any charges. This was an outrageous charge from the get-go. The "woman" had apparently decided that she was going to have some "fun" downed, in rapid succession, a number of "shots," got into bed with her roommate and to the astonishment of the male guests, "did stuff," after which she invited the males to participate which she initiated by unzipping pants and "proceeding," laughing and taunting the entire time. She was not unconscious, she was not slurring her words, she was not passive.

She was, in fact, "in charge" and appeared to be having a "great time," and intended to. THEN, as the "shots" got into her system, she grew obviously tired and the "party ended."

The next day, she was in her "OMG what did I do?" mode, and the embarrassment gene finally kicked in. The angry boyfriend had something to do with it as enough people had witnessed the "evening events" that it had become "the talk of the town." As she notably has recently tried to do to Pabst, she reframed her own behavior as "their fault." "I must have been drunk!" "I could not give consent." Although, because of the roommate and the video, she also acknowledged that the guys likely "did not know she was not consenting." Not under those circumstances and not when she is physically grabbing the equipment and guiding them to their destinations.

Of course, Pabst, rightly so, was not in the mindset to pursue the angry needs of a vindictive and angry woman who wanted badly to punish everyone for her own conscious behavior. Likely, after everyone involved in the investigations reviewed the "evidence," said woman was treated "skeptically."

Well, "woman scorned," then makes it a public crusade. "I was mocked!" That was worse than rape.

Despite the overwhelming evidence, the males involved were in fact all punished, under that portion of the University Student Conduct Code that says that "you can't have sex in front of your friends at a party with a happy young lady. You are required to say "No," even if she says "yes," because at the University of Montana, "yes means you need to say no." You have to have any sex in private, just the two of you, with the door closed, and with your clothes on. And, there can be no videotaping because that complicates the narratives that we must follow no matter how stupid, and it will be considered a "gang rape" if more than one male is in the room because here at UM, we love incendiary language designed to convict without the bother of due process."
 
super_eagle13 said:
I never really understood why there is such a thing as "journalism school." Isn't news reporting like most other unskilled trades that one learns by doing? Just pick up a few legal rules-of-thumb, know your i-before-e's and you get your reporter's license, right?

Well, stupid me: Apparently journalism is much more like occupations that require demonstrable expertise like, you know, law, engineering, medicine and such. You can't just be hiring hacks off the street! They need to have some proxy for intelligence and professionalism in this accelerating meritocracy. So you make up an official collegiate area of study called Journalism.
Formerly, there was quite a bit to it -- being a "trained journalist."

Now, it is more of a glorified trade school with its primary function to create like-thinking, networked, agenda-carrying people whose primary function, now, is to ensure that the "media" is properly representing the "narrative."
 
UMGriz75 said:
super_eagle13 said:
I never really understood why there is such a thing as "journalism school." Isn't news reporting like most other unskilled trades that one learns by doing? Just pick up a few legal rules-of-thumb, know your i-before-e's and you get your reporter's license, right?

Well, stupid me: Apparently journalism is much more like occupations that require demonstrable expertise like, you know, law, engineering, medicine and such. You can't just be hiring hacks off the street! They need to have some proxy for intelligence and professionalism in this accelerating meritocracy. So you make up an official collegiate area of study called Journalism.
Formerly, there was quite a bit to it -- being a "trained journalist."

Now, it is more of a glorified trade school with its primary function to create like-thinking, networked, agenda-carrying people whose primary function, now, is to ensure that the "media" is properly representing the "narrative."

says the guy who gets his panties in a wad when he thinks someone is disagreeing with him about an issue, whether they really are or not. you would have been a good commie, um75.
 
UMGriz75 back his posts with facts and great writing. Argh! uses one line bromides and hot air, a natural talent much in demand at the Albuquerque Balloon Festival. :lol:
 
statler & waldorf said:
UMGriz75 back his posts with facts and great writing. Argh! uses one line bromides and hot air, a natural talent much in demand at the Albuquerque Balloon Festival. :lol:

disconnected 'facts' and fiction writing don't count. my cat is silver, therefore the victim was out to get him, using a strategy of histrionic purring.
 
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