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69_69

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The UC Davis game was getting so good. If I remember right Mercer had the ball down 6 halfway through the 4th quarter. Then bam, lightning. Called a "no contest" and changed to high school football. Like kissing you sister.

Also, equally as exciting as a no contest is a week 1 bye.... who needs a break week one? C'mon Big Sky Conference. Pucker up, we want Griz football!
 
'68griz said:
I think both teams got screwed. At the worst, the game would have been called with the existing score. A no contest label sucks.
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I don’t agree with calling the game with the score as was. UC Davis hadn’t scored in the second half and Mercer was 1st and 10 at midfield with all the momentum. Given the flooding and natural disaster aspect to the local area I don’t think they could have just finished up the next day. It was the reasonable thing to call the game as they did from a humanitarian standpoint.

However, erasing the stats and where it stood is beyond ridiculous. Label it an incomplete game with the score as was versus a no contest. Telling the players, especially the injured players that they didn’t play for 3 1/2 quarters is asinine. I hope the committee considers this if need be for playoff seeding selection, but it could have far reaching ramifications any way you handle it towards the end of the season. Add in the Ivy finally claiming their auto-bid and this first game becomes even more consequential.

This is also the dangers of neutral site games.
 
Finishing the next day may have been an option. But Davis would have had to incur another night's hotel room expenses, which they may have been unwilling to do.
 
Obviously, bringing teams back the next day to finish would have been the #1/best option. However, if this wasn’t feasible then the game should have been declared a tie with stats counting towards season totals. A no contest ruling is just idiotic and makes no sense. Such an FCS thing to do.
 
BrownBear9501 said:
Obviously, bringing teams back the next day to finish would have been the #1/best option. However, if this wasn’t feasible then the game should have been declared a tie with stats counting towards season totals. A no contest ruling is just idiotic and makes no sense. Such an FCS thing to do.
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Declaring it a tie would make no sense...because it wasn't.
 
69_69 said:
The UC Davis game was getting so good. If I remember right Mercer had the ball down 6 halfway through the 4th quarter. Then bam, lightning. Called a "no contest" and changed to high school football. Like kissing you sister.

Also, equally as exciting as a no contest is a week 1 bye.... who needs a break week one? C'mon Big Sky Conference. Pucker up, we want Griz football!
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It's not on the Big Sky that we don't have a game week 1. We could have tried to play Villanova, for example, they have the same open week and another one on Nov 1. We could have had our open week on Oct 18, but we scheduled Sacred Heart then instead. The conference is only responsible for the conference schedule though and it wasn't up to them who we agreed to play. The conference lets the schools know the dates they have available for scheduling games for a given year to work these things out.
 
BrownBear9501 said:
Obviously, bringing teams back the next day to finish would have been the #1/best option. However, if this wasn’t feasible then the game should have been declared a tie with stats counting towards season totals. A no contest ruling is just idiotic and makes no sense. Such an FCS thing to do.
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This has happened before, it's not an FCS rule though.
It would not have been fair to Mercer to just tell them they should accept a loss when they were still capable of winning the game and it wouldn't have been fair to either of them to declare it a tie.
I fully agree that the stats should count, like I had said on the thread on game day, if a kid gets injured in that game, you can't wipe out the injury, so why take away their work that they legitimately completed.
We can't speculate about what the reasoning was to declare no contest, but think of the issues with getting lodging at that time of night for two school's players, staff, parents and whoever else was traveling with them. Davis flew home afterward, and I am sure Mercer bussed the less than 200 miles.
The outcome may not be preferred for anyone, but you can't declare an outcome on a game with that much time remaining any more than you can stop the weather.
 
To keep the stats, they would have to be able to have that game reflected in each teams overall record for averages, etc. Neither team won, so declaring it a tie is the only other option without finishing the game. Yes, it technically wasn’t a tie when the game was called but no one actually won or lost either.
 
BrownBear9501 said:
To keep the stats, they would have to be able to have that game reflected in each teams overall record for averages, etc. Neither team won, so declaring it a tie is the only other option without finishing the game. Yes, it technically wasn’t a tie when the game was called but no one actually won or lost either.
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No, declaring it a no contest is the only other option to finishing the game apparently.
 
BrownBear9501 said:
To keep the stats, they would have to be able to have that game reflected in each teams overall record for averages, etc. Neither team won, so declaring it a tie is the only other option without finishing the game. Yes, it technically wasn’t a tie when the game was called but no one actually won or lost either.
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I would agree with HHB on this. There are no ties any longer, which is why they have the rule that the game is declared no contest. As the governing body, however, the NCAA can make up what they want, and they should keep the INDIVIDUAL stats for the game for the schools' record books.
On the computer polls I follow, it looks like UC Davis moved up and Mercer moved down a place or two each, so I am not convinced the no contest rule is not going to have some (albeit slight) impact down the road.
 
Griz in Texas said:
I would agree with HHB on this. There are no ties any longer, which is why they have the rule that the game is declared no contest. As the governing body, however, the NCAA can make up what they want, and they should keep the INDIVIDUAL stats for the game for the schools' record books.
On the computer polls I follow, it looks like UC Davis moved up and Mercer moved down a place or two each, so I am not convinced the no contest rule is not going to have some (albeit slight) impact down the road.
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Is there new polls after week 0? I don’t think STATS votes again until after week 1. I’m sure opinion based power rankings have strong opinion with the Davis finish and that UIW faceplant.
 
The player played their asses off. The game should have been put on hold til the next day. It is what it is, but what it is, is stupidity.
 
rocklobster said:
The player played their asses off. The game should have been put on hold til the next day. It is what it is, but what it is, is stupidity.
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Again, where does everyone go for the night in that scenario? I gave up on the game resuming when ESPN had a high school game on and it was close to midnight central at that point, which I believe Montgomery is also in the same time zone. UC Davis had the plane ready to go and Mercer was ready to load the bus for their 200 mile drive. Where do you house all the people that go along with those groups? On top of all that, there was a storm that was still in the area and Hank wasn't even standing in his normal spot at midnight in Montgomery.
It was not realistic to hold everything over for one more day. That would have been stupid.
 
Griz in Texas said:
Again, where does everyone go for the night in that scenario? I gave up on the game resuming when ESPN had a high school game on and it was close to midnight central at that point, which I believe Montgomery is also in the same time zone. UC Davis had the plane ready to go and Mercer was ready to load the bus for their 200 mile drive. Where do you house all the people that go along with those groups? On top of all that, there was a storm that was still in the area and Hank wasn't even standing in his normal spot at midnight in Montgomery.
It was not realistic to hold everything over for one more day. That would have been stupid.
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Yeah I’m guessing finding two hotels with 100+ rooms each available that late hour would have been challenging
 
Maybe the takeaway here is just evidence that the "FCS Kickoff Classic" shouldn't be held in a garbage backwater state with shitty weather, especially in August? This game was popular and successful with way higher attendance when it was in Missoula. And Fargo. And even (holding back my vomit) Cheney.

At least we do have the Vegas games to look forward to.
 
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Griz in Texas said:
Again, where does everyone go for the night in that scenario? I gave up on the game resuming when ESPN had a high school game on and it was close to midnight central at that point, which I believe Montgomery is also in the same time zone. UC Davis had the plane ready to go and Mercer was ready to load the bus for their 200 mile drive. Where do you house all the people that go along with those groups? On top of all that, there was a storm that was still in the area and Hank wasn't even standing in his normal spot at midnight in Montgomery.
It was not realistic to hold everything over for one more day. That would have been stupid.
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Ok. Still don't like the decision. I think THAT is stupid. Call it a tie then. That would be just as stupid. I'm thinking strictly about the players. I get your point though. Logistically, it's a nightmare.
 
rocklobster said:
Ok. Still don't like the decision. I think THAT is stupid. Call it a tie then. That would be just as stupid. I'm thinking strictly about the players. I get your point though. Logistically, it's a nightmare.
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What I have heard is that both schools were involved in the decision to declare it a 'no contest'.
 
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