Kent Baer will be hired as Griz defensive coordinator

[PlayerRep]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

I think some Griz fans were hoping for a bit more than he improved a bad D-II school previously got them performing at 60% or so. Okay, good. Now, what else? Do you still think Haslam made the right/best hire 3 years ago? Is 37th in the Stat final season poll after 3 years, what you were hoping for. I think UM finished lower in the poll last fall than the previous fall. Very few first team all-conferences. No all-americans. Very few NFL guys. Losses to Cats and no playoffs for 2 years.

 

[garizzalies]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

Now you’re just trying to cover your tracks. I thought you were done?
And you got it backwards. Comparing lower level experience to a higher level makes no sense. Again.
In your analogy, they both have not-so-impressive results, but one has impressive experience and the other was a good salesman. It’s like comparing Bodnar to Steve Dill.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Now you’re just trying to cover your tracks. I thought you were done?
And you got it backwards. Comparing lower level experience to a higher level makes no sense. Again.
In your analogy, they both have not-so-impressive results, but one has impressive experience and the other was a good salesman. It’s like comparing Bodnar to Steve Dill.

Heyoooo! Shots fired!

 

[EverettGriz]

If one of you “Don’t Dare to Question a Hauck Decision Under Any Circumstance Because It Was Made By Hauck And In Hauck We Trust” types would kindly let the rest of us know what record BH has to have before we can begin to question one of his decisions, it’d probably save all of us a great deal of time on this board.

Thanks in advance.

 

[reinell30]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

I think some Griz fans were hoping for a bit more than he improved a bad D-II school previously got them performing at 60% or so. Okay, good. Now, what else? Do you still think Haslam made the right/best hire 3 years ago? Is 37th in the Stat final season poll after 3 years, what you were hoping for. I think UM finished lower in the poll last fall than the previous fall. Very few first team all-conferences. No all-americans. Very few NFL guys. Losses to Cats and no playoffs for 2 years.

Three years ago I was all aboard with the Stitt hire. My support for the Stitt hire dwindled as the three years progressed however. Was he the best choice at the time? Turns out, NO! Now we all know it wasn't. I admit I was wrong about Stitt being hired.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

If one of you “Don’t Dare to Question a Hauck Decision Under Any Circumstance Because It Was Made By Hauck And In Hauck We Trust” types would kindly let the rest of us know what record BH has to have before we can begin to question one of his decisions, it’d probably save all of us a great deal of time on this board.

Thanks in advance.

7-4. You're welcome.

 

[garizzalies]

If one of you “Don’t Dare to Question a Hauck Decision Under Any Circumstance Because It Was Made By Hauck And In Hauck We Trust” types would kindly let the rest of us know what record BH has to have before we can begin to question one of his decisions, it’d probably save all of us a great deal of time on this board.

Thanks in advance.

I don’t consider myself a BH apologist at all. Far from it, actually. But I don’t think the criticism of Baer is fair at this point. As soon as he fucks up on the field, in the locker room, or on the street, have at it. But again, at this point, what’s the basis for all the negativity?

 

[PlayerRep]

If one of you “Don’t Dare to Question a Hauck Decision Under Any Circumstance Because It Was Made By Hauck And In Hauck We Trust” types would kindly let the rest of us know what record BH has to have before we can begin to question one of his decisions, it’d probably save all of us a great deal of time on this board.

Thanks in advance.

UM was ranked nos. 12 and 8 in the final polls the 2 years before Stitt arrived. UM went down in the final polls each of the next 2 years, finishing no. 37 this past year, I believe. So, at a minimum, Hauck's team should finish better than no. 37 in the final poll next year.

 

[ordigger]

Mining, Stitt is gone, likely selling used cars. Why don’t you go away with him.
Most of us are pleased Bobby replaced him and we are supportive of his decisions regarding new coaches.
Lighten up on Player. He has forgotten more about football than you will ever learn.

Stitt will be fine. I feel bad for the way he and his family have been traeated . They are great people. The fact that their terrible treatment is celebrated by ignorant fans like you and PR speaks volumes. It just proves that class is one thing money can't buy.

Now go get your pat in the head from the PR. If you're lucky he won't tell you a long rambling story about himself.


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How exactly has Stitt been mistreated? His family?

He did not perform at a level commensurate with expectations of the program, and was let go. Period, point blank, end of story. That is the coaching business. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?

Probably need to educate yourself here. The family has been treated unfairly by people away from football. There are a couple incidents, one involving his young son by so called fans. Obviously Mining knows some of the same things.

 

[AZGrizFan]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

I think some Griz fans were hoping for a bit more than he improved a bad D-II school previously got them performing at 60% or so. Okay, good. Now, what else? Do you still think Haslam made the right/best hire 3 years ago? Is 37th in the Stat final season poll after 3 years, what you were hoping for. I think UM finished lower in the poll last fall than the previous fall. Very few first team all-conferences. No all-americans. Very few NFL guys. Losses to Cats and no playoffs for 2 years.

Nope.not happy with 37th. Not happy with Griz performance over last three years. Doesn’t change the fact he was filleted here for his statistics, and Baer is gettin a pass though, does it?

 

[AZGrizFan]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

Now you’re just trying to cover your tracks. I thought you were done?
And you got it backwards. Comparing lower level experience to a higher level makes no sense. Again.
In your analogy, they both have not-so-impressive results, but one has impressive experience and the other was a good salesman. It’s like comparing Bodnar to Steve Dill.

One had good numbers at a lower level. One has shitty numbers at a higher level. You’re right. It makes no sense does it...

 

[jcu27]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

Now you’re just trying to cover your tracks. I thought you were done?
And you got it backwards. Comparing lower level experience to a higher level makes no sense. Again.
In your analogy, they both have not-so-impressive results, but one has impressive experience and the other was a good salesman. It’s like comparing Bodnar to Steve Dill.

One had shitty numbers at a lower level. One has shitty numbers at a higher level. You’re right. It makes no sense does it...

FIFY

 

[Raider]

Mining, Stitt is gone, likely selling used cars. Why don’t you go away with him.
Most of us are pleased Bobby replaced him and we are supportive of his decisions regarding new coaches.
Lighten up on Player. He has forgotten more about football than you will ever learn.

Stitt will be fine. I feel bad for the way he and his family have been traeated . They are great people. The fact that their terrible treatment is celebrated by ignorant fans like you and PR speaks volumes. It just proves that class is one thing money can't buy.

Now go get your pat in the head from the PR. If you're lucky he won't tell you a long rambling story about himself.


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How exactly has Stitt been mistreated? His family?

He did not perform at a level commensurate with expectations of the program, and was let go. Period, point blank, end of story. That is the coaching business. Why is that so hard for some of you to understand?

Probably need to educate yourself here. The family has been treated unfairly by people away from football. There are a couple incidents, one involving his young son by so called fans. Obviously Mining knows some of the same things.

Hmmm, no. I am very aware of some of these incidents, including the one with Sam. That is an ugly part of college football and idiots all over. Family members of coaches have to deal with all sort of nonsense.

I was assuming that Mining was referring to his dismissal as a coach. In no way, shape or form was he mistreated in that process at all.

 

[PlayerRep]

BT, that was by far the most logical post in this dumb thread.
Why would any coach who hired someone with infinitely more P5 experience as a coordinator than we’ve ever had get “flamed”? Particularly at this point? Makes no sense to me, especially when the basis for “doubt” is their interpretation of stats from teams that weren’t all that great to begin with. I probably sound like poorcats here but some of you sound down right irrational and spoiled

Maybe because we spent the past 3 years on this board dissecting the statistics of a coach who came from a program that literally DEFINED not "all that great" before he got there, and which he raised to a level of respectability they had literally never before achieved. But that performance wasn't good enough for fans, who used HIS STATS to denigrate him--before he'd even coached a game here.

Kinda thought that was the playbook here. :thumb:

I think some Griz fans were hoping for a bit more than he improved a bad D-II school previously got them performing at 60% or so. Okay, good. Now, what else? Do you still think Haslam made the right/best hire 3 years ago? Is 37th in the Stat final season poll after 3 years, what you were hoping for. I think UM finished lower in the poll last fall than the previous fall. Very few first team all-conferences. No all-americans. Very few NFL guys. Losses to Cats and no playoffs for 2 years.

Nope.not happy with 37th. Not happy with Griz performance over last three years. Doesn’t change the fact he was filleted here for his statistics, and Baer is gettin a pass though, does it?

Stitt was a head coach with D-II experience. He came to UM, from outside Griz Nation, to be the head coach. Head coaches get scrutiny. Baer is a very experienced P5 D-Coordinator. He was incredible experience and has been well-regarded almost everywhere he has been. The D stats where he has been are only marginally relevant to coming to UM. Those stats are fine. HIs UW stats were better than his successor at UW.

What is most comparable is that when Semore was hired as DC, he received virtually no scrutiny and no parsing of his stats as DC or as assistant where he had been, and was heralded as a savior by the bulk of the posters on egriz who spoke up. Many posters, with no basis, said he was a big improvement over TG. He and Stitt were given a complete pass when he was elevated to DC. That's what is more comparable to this situation.

Again, I liked Semore and still do.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Just because Semore was given a pass doesn't mean Baer should as well. He's got a gigantic body of work (the last 7-8 years of which suck balls) to analyze.

 

[Raider]

I know this goes against the e-griz war of attrition approach, but can we just agree that Baer is not the sexist pick on paper, but we have faith that Bobby knows what he is doing and we hope it works out?
Why can’t it just be left at that? GD, I just don’t understand you guys sometimes.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I know this goes against the e-griz war of attrition approach, but can we just agree that Baer is not the sexist pick on paper, but we have faith that Bobby knows what he is doing and we hope it works out?
Why can’t it just be left at that? GD, I just don’t understand you guys sometimes.

Well give us something else to talk about then.

 

[Raider]

Fresh out of ideas, sorry.

Then again, there is a big world out there, besides e-griz, so there is that.............

 

[RobGriz]

I know this goes against the e-griz war of attrition approach, but can we just agree that Baer is not the sexist pick on paper, but we have faith that Bobby knows what he is doing and we hope it works out?
Why can’t it just be left at that? GD, I just don’t understand you guys sometimes.

Because apparently there are those that believe if you express any concerns at all, about anything Griz related, you are a bad fan and should immediately be band (or banned as the case may be) from Wa-Griz for life.

 

[PlayerRep]

Just because Semore was given a pass doesn't mean Baer should as well. He's got a gigantic body of work (the last 7-8 years of which suck balls) to analyze.

Okay, I get it. If the new DC has little or no experience, no one should question the hire. In fact, the DC should be given much praise. If the new DC has an incredible amount of great experience, then everyone should look for little things to criticize and, if some is found, assume the DC is not the right pick for the job.

Sure, makes a lot of sense. Keep digging your hole.