Kemp

[Mousegriz]

Kemp's a decent player. Breunig and Krislovic are better. Neither one of them played last year. Kemp was able to get more minutes playing alongside Andy Martin than alongside Breunig and Krislovic. Breunig and Krislovic are back next year. Of the 3, which one would least affect the team if they went out with season-ending injury? Of the 3, which one would you prefer to be the senior and not coming back next year?

 

[marooncoloredglasses]

Where'd I hear that before," Do you go to games." I said that in my first post here.
I saw you there last night sitting behind the team.

Not living in town and also going to Lady Griz games, games at schools where I taught, and family games I have missed a few games(Frontier Conference).

Kemp was having a decent game last night with one layup and a rebound in three rotations at least until he fouled a three-point shooter with 1.1 left in the game.

The most important point is we do need him as he sits next to the coaches on bench staying into the game mentally. He hustles when gets into the game and has the wide body to keep other posts away from the basket when Breunig and Krslovic are in their usual foul trouble. He has very limited offensive skills. But he also has been foul prone which gets teams closer to the double bonus later in the game.

With the game Weisner played last night along with need to get Jack Lopez more minutes than he got last night, I doubt that minute allotment will vary much from last night. And maybe decrease.

Keep up your support. They will need it tomorrow and then the toughest road trip of the year. Maybe I'll see you taking notes in Cheney.

 

[PlayerRep]

Kemp's a decent player. Breunig and Krislovic are better. Neither one of them played last year. Kemp was able to get more minutes playing alongside Andy Martin than alongside Breunig and Krislovic. Breunig and Krislovic are back next year. Of the 3, which one would least affect the team if they went out with season-ending injury? Of the 3, which one would you prefer to be the senior and not coming back next year?

If Breunig and Krslovic both were out with foul trouble and the opposing team had big post players, who would you like to see guard the opposing posts? If Breunig was out, and the only option to tie the game was to get the ball to a low post player in good position, who would you give the ball to? If you were in a bar brawl, and your choice was Krslovic or Kemp to rescue you, who would you pick?

 

[PlayerRep]

Where'd I hear that before," Do you go to games." I said that in my first post here.
I saw you there last night sitting behind the team.

Not living in town and also going to Lady Griz games, games at schools where I taught, and family games I have missed a few games(Frontier Conference).

Kemp was having a decent game last night with one layup and a rebound in three rotations at least until he fouled a three-point shooter with 1.1 left in the game.

The most important point is we do need him as he sits next to the coaches on bench staying into the game mentally. He hustles when gets into the game and has the wide body to keep other posts away from the basket when Breunig and Krslovic are in their usual foul trouble. He has very limited offensive skills. But he also has been foul prone which gets teams closer to the double bonus later in the game.

With the game Weisner played last night along with need to get Jack Lopez more minutes than he got last night, I doubt that minute allotment will vary much from last night. And maybe decrease.

Keep up your support. They will need it tomorrow and then the toughest road trip of the year. Maybe I'll see you taking notes in Cheney.

You didn't see me behind the team bench, I can assure you. Kemp is actually a good offensive player in the low post position. Good scoring, dunks, pretty good decision-making from the low post. Yes, Kemp fouls, He has had 14 fouls in the last 14 games, I believe, including 4 in one game.

 

[Mousegriz]

Kemp's a decent player. Breunig and Krislovic are better. Neither one of them played last year. Kemp was able to get more minutes playing alongside Andy Martin than alongside Breunig and Krislovic. Breunig and Krislovic are back next year. Of the 3, which one would least affect the team if they went out with season-ending injury? Of the 3, which one would you prefer to be the senior and not coming back next year?

If Breunig and Krslovic both were out with foul trouble and the opposing team had big post players, who would you like to see guard the opposing posts? If Breunig was out, and the only option to tie the game was to get the ball to a low post player in good position, who would you give the ball to? If you were in a bar brawl, and your choice was Krslovic or Kemp to rescue you, who would you pick?

Haven't watched too many games where the "only option to tie" was getting it to a low post player in good position. But that would be a very good "only option" and there's lots of posts I'd get it to if that were the case.

If I had the Griz team this year, Breunig and Krslovic were both in foul trouble, and the other team had big post players (plural) I'd be nervous.... but Kemp would be covering one of them. Can't recall the specific game where this happened but did DeCuire really put Bradshaw and Dunn on big post players this year while Kamp sat?

If I were in a bar fight I'd take Kemp......Krslovic too young to be in a bar so Kemp would be my "only option to tie"!!

 

[mtgrizrule]

Thanks to this thread, I paid much more attention to Kemp, Krslovic, Breunig, and Weisner against Idaho State. Here is what I am thinking. It is also posted on the GRIZ/ISU game thread.

The GRIZ better shape up their paint help defense before post season play. As is, playing against the Big Sky teams, they cannot be expose as often. A quick passing team with a few high risers can pose problems for the GRIZ defense. When either Kemp or Krslovic come out to help on the perimeter the defense is often exposed to back doors and/or baseline alley oops. Bolomboy is the one conference player capable of taking advantage of this. The other player capable of it is a GRIZ (Breunig). Davidson and EWU beat our defense in a different way, which was quick precise passing. Yes, Krslovic does get back to position slightly quicker than Kemp. Breunig has the best footwork and defensive quickness of the 3 players. Breunig's defensive versatility has been utilized more. He can comfortably defend the paint, perimeter, and penetration, which is rare for post players in the conference.

I did notice during the ISU game, the GRIZ started to address this defensively too. When Weisner was on the court, Breunig and Krslovic were both in better paint help position much more consistently. Those backside lobs being exposed on the baseline were better defended. The reason is because Weisner moves from the paint to the perimeter much better than Kemp and Krslovic do. It is apparent to me, now that Weisner is healthy, his minutes will continue to be high at the expense of Kemp. Weisner gives the GRIZ a lot of defensive versatility, in addition to spreading the court offensively (which Kemp nor Krslovic can do that). It is no coincidence the improved team play has come with Weisner becoming healthy again. Beyond what we see statistically, Weisner has a lot of great variables. He is the perfect 6th man. I've said that since half way through his sophomore season.

I watched more closely how Kemp, Krslovic, Breunig, and Weisner all were used against ISU because of PR starting the Kemp thread. I will also post this there. I honestly feel Kemp's inconsistent minutes and decreased role is because of all the intangibles Weisner brings to the team. I will continue to pay close attention to how our posts are being used to see if there is a pattern developing. In the Weber State game, I will be looking for how the GRIZ prepare for Bolomboy, and the difference in defensive strategy when Bolomboy is sitting.

I am guessing Kemp and Krslovic will be banging him more and test the officiating more often than the 1st game. I expect Breunig and Weisner to each be used in a variety of defensive roles. I will not be surprised to see gradual increased minutes using the Weisner, Breunig, and Krslovic on the court at the same time, with Kemp getting spot minutes. I really like that combination defensively. Krslovic takes care of the banging and rebounding. Breunig is more of a help paint defender to keep in better rebounding position. Weisner to give the GRIZ more defensive perimeter length. That combination allows for each player to have their defensive strengths most utilized.

Now that you know what I will be looking for, starting with the Weber State game, hope you all will be paying more attention to these things too, and see what we can all come up with.

 

[PlayerRep]

Kemp's a decent player. Breunig and Krislovic are better. Neither one of them played last year. Kemp was able to get more minutes playing alongside Andy Martin than alongside Breunig and Krislovic. Breunig and Krislovic are back next year. Of the 3, which one would least affect the team if they went out with season-ending injury? Of the 3, which one would you prefer to be the senior and not coming back next year?

If Breunig and Krslovic both were out with foul trouble and the opposing team had big post players, who would you like to see guard the opposing posts? If Breunig was out, and the only option to tie the game was to get the ball to a low post player in good position, who would you give the ball to? If you were in a bar brawl, and your choice was Krslovic or Kemp to rescue you, who would you pick?

Haven't watched too many games where the "only option to tie" was getting it to a low post player in good position. But that would be a very good "only option" and there's lots of posts I'd get it to if that were the case.

If I had the Griz team this year, Breunig and Krslovic were both in foul trouble, and the other team had big post players (plural) I'd be nervous.... but Kemp would be covering one of them. Can't recall the specific game where this happened but did DeCuire really put Bradshaw and Dunn on big post players this year while Kamp sat?

If I were in a bar fight I'd take Kemp......Krslovic too young to be in a bar so Kemp would be my "only option to tie"!!

Good post.

 

[Long Gone]

I really enjoy this string as it gives an E-Grizzer perspective of what (we think) TDC is trying to accomplish defensively.
Rule, I'd love your observations on how each of the four players predominantly mentioned in this post defend the opponents on-ball screens. TDC has a clear preference for using his posts to hedge the screen allowing the griz defender to go under the screen and then recover. If successful in pushing the dribbler away (toward center court) this aggressive defense helps eliminate dribble penetration- the enemy of good man to man defenses.
TDC occasionally resorts to having the defender go over the screen, which puts more pressure on our guards defensively (and last week we even resorted to switching the screens) but IMO his preference is to use the bigs to make the dribbler passive.
As I watch the games I see this strategy as a critical component to our defensive success. Despite all the preseason hype about how many points we would score this year, our defense is actually much higher rated than our offense.
Your input would be insightful. Thanks.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I really enjoy this string as it gives an E-Grizzer perspective of what (we think) TDC is trying to accomplish defensively.
Rule, I'd love your observations on how each of the four players predominantly mentioned in this post defend the opponents on-ball screens. TDC has a clear preference for using his posts to hedge the screen allowing the griz defender to go under the screen and then recover. If successful in pushing the dribbler away (toward center court) this aggressive defense helps eliminate dribble penetration- the enemy of good man to man defenses.
TDC occasionally resorts to having the defender go over the screen, which puts more pressure on our guards defensively (and last week we even resorted to switching the screens) but IMO his preference is to use the bigs to make the dribbler passive.
As I watch the games I see this strategy as a critical component to our defensive success. Despite all the preseason hype about how many points we would score this year, our defense is actually much higher rated than our offense.
Your input would be insightful. Thanks.

Long, not much I can add to what we both posted. The only wrinkles I feel the GRIZ need to work on are getting more minutes/rotations with Weisner, Breunig, and Krslovic combination on the court at the same time. I feel this is our best rebounding and interior defense combination. I feel the way the bigs usually hedge the screens and help with on the ball defense, this combination could reduce our opponents options better. Offenses that execute and pass well can get a good shot off while Krslovic or Breunig are helping and trying to get back into post position. That takes away rebounding position for whoever is hedging, of late that usually is Krslovic. I feel, Weisner is a little quicker to go from the paint, to the perimeter, and back to the paint than Krslovic. Both are better rebounders than Weisner. Considering the X factors of their combined skills, I feel this combination needs to get their continuity down more. Pretty much all combinations involving Weisner need more court time, being he is now over the injury and back into basketball shape.

Granted our 3 and 4 perimeter lineups are effective. The biggest factor being, the GRIZ have used small line ups so often the last 2 years, they know what to expect of one another. Meanwhile, I feel we have more to learn with a truer 3 man SF/3, PF/4, and C/5 combination. That line up could be much more needed, if the GRIZ are fortunate enough to make a post season tournament. It also will give all opponents more to work on, knowing the GRIZ can be effective with a more conventional line up.

The biggest drawback/negative to the GRIZ trying to implement this more would be the risk of it going away from a quicker small line up that has taken this team far this season. My hope is the GRIZ build some solid leads early, then get more minutes with a bigger line up.

It sure is nice to have Weisner back. He gives the team much needed versatility, and leadership. :thumb:

 

[Sport]

The fun and enjoyment of fan boards is so that we can all have our opinions, likes and dislikes and leave it at that. If all the armchair quarterbacks out there had to live and die with the coaches split second decisions and be second guessing every move we make then we too would have a greater perspective on the game.
Bottom line, if Travis thought Kemp deserved more court time Chris would get more court time. Travis is using his players to the best of their ability to win games.
In the time I have been around Travis I have gotten to know him fairly well, and I'am by no means an expert, but given time and providing we can keep him for more than three years he will mentioned in the same breath as Jud, Mike, Stu, Larry, Blaine and Tinks as one of the great basketball coaches in our program history.

 

[mtgrizrule]

The fun and enjoyment of fan boards is so that we can all have our opinions, likes and dislikes and leave it at that. If all the armchair quarterbacks out there had to live and die with the coaches split second decisions and be second guessing every move we make then we too would have a greater perspective on the game.
Bottom line, if Travis thought Kemp deserved more court time Chris would get more court time. Travis is using his players to the best of their ability to win games.
In the time I have been around Travis I have gotten to know him fairly well, and I'am by no means an expert, but given time and providing we can keep him for more than three years he will mentioned in the same breath as Jud, Mike, Stu, Larry, Blaine and Tinks as one of the great basketball coaches in our program history.

For the record, most of us also think highly of DeCuire. I believe he is a great coach as well. By the looks of this thread. Somehow it went off track away from Kemp. It turned out to be a great basketball discussion. If anything of what posted about the team is coming off as not supporting DeCuire or anything negative, it was not intended that way.

I don't see any 2nd guessing or bitching in this thread about DeCuire. As for Kemp, someone was wondering why he is not playing much? During the process, it turned into reasoning as to the possibilities of why Kemp's time is what it is. This is far from 2nd guessing or questioning Coach Decuire. For the most part, the basketball forum is civil and usually great discussions. It does not turn into constant negative derailments like many of the football threads do.

I don't understand where you are coming from with your post.

I wish we could have more threads with solid conversation about GRIZ basketball and football.

 

[UMGriz75]

I think Kemp exemplifies a strategy problem that every team coach confronts. He's a good strong player among good strong players. But "not quite proven." Now, that's a very technical position. In close games, the Coach can't experiment. Montana has managed to have a series of close games. Kemp might well be the best for his position. But, he wasn't "quite" when decisions had to be made.

 

[Sport]

I have been a critic of Chris Kemp in the past but I must give credit where credit is due. I was very happy to see Chris play with a controlled sense of reckless abandon in Saturday's game against Weber St. His attacking defense against Bolomboy had a lot to do with our victory on Saturday. You could see Bolomboy (sp?) pretty much knew after a short time that he was not going to be a factor in the game.
My hat is off to Chris and if he can infect his team mates with the same enthusiasm for our final road games the Griz have an excellent chance of hosting the tournament.
GO GRIZ

 

[Mousegriz]

I wasn't at the game Saturday's but all accounts seem to say Kemp played well and got more minutes than in the past several games. Good for him. I by no means have anything against the guy but do feel he's not as valuable as Breunig and Krslovic. Given the change in make up of most college teams (less true posts and big power forwards) teams can often go with one "big" and smaller "3" and "4" players. As a result Kemp Breunig and Krslovic may never see the floor together and often 3 guards and Wesiner might join Breunig or Krslovic.

Great season going for the Griz. The difference in hype between Griz FB and Griz BB amazes me. We're tied for first!!

 

[GrizLA]

Maybe, Kemp's greatest contribution to the Griz is his presence in practice. He is a no holds barred kinda guy, not easy to push around. To practice against a guy like that every day is a luxury most teams, especially Big Sky level schools do not have. You cannot measure that kind of contribution except to say "thank you, for making Breunig, Krylovic, Gfeller, Weisner and Bradshaw, and the rest, stronger and better players"...

 

[grizfan22]

Playerrep,

Last night was one of those game where I wished Kemp did get more minutes. He only saw three minutes with a two overtime game. A game at which we were out played by a freshman in the post. Bruenig had his worst game of the season and in the overtimes after he fouled out, I don't understand why Chris didn't see the floor. I'm never one to second guess coaches because they know their players better than anyone, but I felt that his presence was much needed last night. I knew his increased time against Weber was due to the Bolomboy match up, but we needed a solid rebounder and strong defender at the end of the game last night. Just my thought, im sure there was a reason though.

 

[PlayerRep]

Kemp. 17 points in 14 minutes. About 4 rebounds. Was in for the first half big 11-0 run (or whatever it was). Contributed to that run too. Glad he performed well again after getting another chance. Congrats to Kemp. His return text a bit ago. "Thanks PR. Happy birthday. Let's get this championship." He has told me for 2 months that he will do anything to get the championship, and he didn't want to leave UM without a championship. Glad the Griz earned the right to host.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Kemp. 17 points in 14 minutes. About 4 rebounds. Was in for the first half big 11-0 run (or whatever it was). Contributed to that run too. Glad he performed well again after getting another chance. Congrats to Kemp. His return text a bit ago. "Thanks PR. Happy birthday. Let's get this championship." He has told me for 2 months that he will do anything to get the championship, and he didn't want to leave UM without a championship. Glad the Griz earned the right to host.

He was given props in the game thread as well. He was huge against the Cats. If the GRIZ get that kind of play from him from here on out, the GRIZ just may surprise people even more. :thumb:

 

[Umista]

Kemp did a great job last night! He was in the right place at the right time. All are happy for the excellent display he put on. Of course more is coming, stay tuned!

 

[marooncoloredglasses]

The game on Thursday should provide more opportunities for Chris particularly if Breunig or Krslovich get in foul trouble again against Bolomboy. Once Kemp becomes part of scouting report of other teams it will become increasing hard to contribute numbers he did against the cats. But it's great to see some depth down low.