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Katz - Loving the Griz again...not

...if there was ever a year...
...sneak up on the tournament...
...make some noise win a game or two...
...this is it..griz just need to keep on ballin'...

... :shock: ...
 
Yeah, I don't think there's any way a bsc team gets a 13 this year. If the GRIZ couldn't get higher than a 14 the last two years each with 26 wins, I'd find it very difficult to believe anyone would this season. A 15 is the most likely scenario, a 14 possible.
 
EverettGriz said:
Yeah, I don't think there's any way a bsc team gets a 13 this year. If the GRIZ couldn't get higher than a 14 the last two years each with 26 wins, I'd find it very difficult to believe anyone would this season. A 15 is the most likely scenario, a 14 possible.
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Eastern was a 13 a few years back and didn’t even win the conference. I think the conference has some decent out of conference wins this year, enough to possibly prop up the Griz or EWU to a better seed...northern Colorado has a pretty high bpi too...
 
IF Montana were to get the auto and draw a 16, I would want them to draw a game in Dayton. IMO they are good enough to win a game against another 16. Build on the youth with a tourney win.
 
AZGrizFan said:
We played UW, Stanford, UNM and Arkansas within 5 points for 28-30 minutes (and UNM up until the last 4 minutes). DEPTH is what got us early in the season....once Pridgett went out we had nothing but youth/inexperience on the floor, as Yagi was ineligible and Samuelson was injured. Literally played with a 7-man rotation through almost all of OOC. Yet despite all that, those tough OOC games didn't get away from us until the final 10-12 minutes. Oregon was the only true "blowout" from essentially the opening tip.

This team (right now) doesn't even remotely resemble the team that played those OOC games. DCH, Vazquez, Owens are playing like much more seasoned veterans. TF is finally playing within himself and controlling his emotions. Mack is emerging as a scoring force and defensive force underneath. Samuelson & Yagi are getting quality minutes and providing depth that wasn't available in the early going (injury/ineligibility). And Sayeed is...well....he's just Sayeed. The best player in the conference.

Sadly, even if we do win the BSC tourney the NCAA tourney pickers won't look past the record so its all probably a moot point.
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They played Oregon close until about the last 5 minutes of the first half, even turned Pritchard over a couple times. Then a few turnovers and Oregon hit a few triples and down 12 or so at half and the dam broke. They played real well until then.
 
putter said:
IF Montana were to get the auto and draw a 16, I would want them to draw a game in Dayton. IMO they are good enough to win a game against another 16. Build on the youth with a tourney win.
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Very good point though that would make them 1 of the 4 weakest teams in the field and with the usual upsets in conference tourneys probably won't happen. Would be a great experience for them if it does.
 
putter said:
IF Montana were to get the auto and draw a 16, I would want them to draw a game in Dayton. IMO they are good enough to win a game against another 16. Build on the youth with a tourney win.
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Very good point though that would make them 1 of the 4 weakest teams in the field and with the usual upsets in conference tourneys probably won't happen. Would be a great experience for them if it does. I can recall a couple decent 16 play in games since they went to it and you get some "Giant Killer" pub to boot.
 
Hoops watcher said:
putter said:
IF Montana were to get the auto and draw a 16, I would want them to draw a game in Dayton. IMO they are good enough to win a game against another 16. Build on the youth with a tourney win.
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Very good point though that would make them 1 of the 4 weakest teams in the field and with the usual upsets in conference tourneys probably won't happen. Would be a great experience for them if it does. I can recall a couple decent 16 play in games since they went to it and you get some "Giant Killer" pub to boot.
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I agree. I figure, if you are going to get the pleasure of going up against a #1 why not get a game behind you. Especially one where you can get a win on national TV and some more tournament $$
 
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Does the school and conference get more revenue for a W in a play in game? I have no idea, never seen it addressed.
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I believe the payoff to the conference is basically an "appearance fee," not based on win or lose. However, the winner gets to move on, so they get a fee for that appearance too. So, in a way, a win does mean more revenue. It's different for the "championship round" (the NCAA term), so I assume winning or losing matters at that point ... but I've never seen the formula explained.

BTW: Some of you may recall that the conference decides how to divy up the pot. Generally, teams that make the Big Dance frequently (think Gonzaga) get screwed because perennial bottom-dwellers still get a share.
 
If the Griz run the table and win the BSC tournament, they’ll end up 24-10 (a tough feat, but doable)! That would give them a 15 seed or possibly a 14, depending on the rest of the field! I can’t see them getting a higher seed than that! All in all, it’s still Travls’ best coaching job thus far!
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Hoops watcher said:
Does the school and conference get more revenue for a W in a play in game? I have no idea, never seen it addressed.
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I believe the payoff to the conference is basically an "appearance fee," not based on win or lose. However, the winner gets to move on, so they get a fee for that appearance too. So, in a way, a win does mean more revenue. It's different for the "championship round" (the NCAA term), so I assume winning or losing matters at that point ... but I've never seen the formula explained.

BTW: Some of you may recall that the conference decides how to divy up the pot. Generally, teams that make the Big Dance frequently (think Gonzaga) get screwed because perennial bottom-dwellers still get a share.
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That's about what I was thinking. I believe Gonzaga gets a sweetheart deal re divvying up tourney bucks with the rest of the WCC like Boise State in football and the MWC, never dug into specifics though. A play in does get you good exposure with hoops junkies getting into tournament mode.
 
Hoops watcher said:
IdaGriz01 said:
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BTW: Some of you may recall that the conference decides how to divvy up the pot. Generally, teams that make the Big Dance frequently (think Gonzaga) get screwed because perennial bottom-dwellers still get a share.
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That's about what I was thinking. I believe Gonzaga gets a sweetheart deal re divvying up tourney bucks with the rest of the WCC like Boise State in football and the MWC, never dug into specifics though. A play in does get you good exposure with hoops junkies getting into tournament mode.
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Pretty sure you're right about Gonzaga and the sweetheart deal (concession to keep them in the conference).

Besides, the exposure, the other good thing about a play-in game is that your opponent is (usually) at about the same level. Play well, and you have a chance to win ... and "a win is a win." And, as a matter of fact, since they went to the "first four" format, except for last year, one of the winners then went on to win at least one more game. And back in 2011, Virginia Commonwealth went on to the Final four.
 
Did anyone else notice that the Tournament Committee show last week that gave the initial bracket had Northern Colorado as a 13 seed representing the Big Sky?
 
GrizPony said:
Did anyone else notice that the Tournament Committee show last week that gave the initial bracket had Northern Colorado as a 13 seed representing the Big Sky?
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Probably going by the power ranking system they use. Doubt very much discussion about the Big Sky occurred. :lol:
 
citay said:
Joe Lunardi is a bit more favorable to us.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
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Have only seen Gonzaga dismantle foes on tv.....yikes, if we draw em!

Have seen SDSU up close, a much better match for Griz, still a tough draw but SDSU not a zag team.
 
rainbear14 said:
OK, we go thru this every year and every year I say the same thing...we will not be a 16 seed...we have never been a 16 seed, I don't think. Now , if a dark horse , lower positioned team say Idaho, could win the tourney then possibly get 16th seed but normally the BSC, as low as it is, is above at least 6 other conferences, every year. Look at the MEAC, the MAAC, the Amer East, the Northeast,the Big South,the Southland, the SWAC, all are just lower than the 'SKY...and even then you could argue the Sky is equal or better than the Patriot, the Horizon, & the Summitt...and possibly even the MAC or the OVC. Look at history, just not going to happen!but you still have got to win the damn, over attended, tourney. GO Griz!
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The Griz were a 16 seed in 91 when they played one of the best college teams of all time in UNLV. I think the Big Sky is down from what it was two years ago. They lost to Montana Tech which will be a "bad loss" in the eyes of the selection committee. If this team win the tourney that will be a big deal with all the new faces. They lost 5 players that started at least one game last year. They are really playing well right now the sky is the limit.
 
I stand corrected ...or wrong again! Montana was 16th seed in 91 and lost to UNLV, was also a 16th seed in 97, lost to Kentucky and finally a 16th seed in 05 and lost to Washington. So it could happen again. Go Griz!
 
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