K. Ah Yat the greatest UM Quarterback

[HikeGlacier]

I so agree with this point. So many people/fans want to obsess over a bad play or half of football and use that for their argument as to why they are right and you are wrong.

That line of thinking doesn't fit in my life. I always took it one play at a time, when that play was over, immediately garner information, learn from it and reflect. Then quickly forget and move on to the next play.

I reflected on my play in 4 chunks during the season. How did I play overall over the last 3 games and how can I improve on that current data set. One play, one amazing set of stats, one half, one game doesn't make a player good or great. Its consistency over a long period of time that does that.

IMO it takes time to accurately judge talent not instant gratification.

It was a whole season. People just put blinders on because of the legacy. Hopefully, he will learn to read defenses because it was horrible this year. The interception in the endzone at SDSU was bush league. Almost all of his interceptions were thrown directly to a defense player like they were playing catch. The same thing happened at practice all the time.

 

[Dont Kick 2 Bergen]

It didn't happen at practice all the time or I would have caught one.

P.S. Nobody cares about an INT in a game that was already over. But do continue to over look and not comment at the multiple elite throws before that got us into scoring position.

 

[mthoopsfan]

It was a whole season. People just put blinders on because of the legacy. Hopefully, he will learn to read defenses because it was horrible this year. The interception in the endzone at SDSU was bush league. Almost all of his interceptions were thrown directly to a defense player like they were playing catch. The same thing happened at practice all the time.

There were lots of legacies on the team that didn't play. No legacy plays because of his dad.

 

[HikeGlacier]

Some legacies are different.

 

[HikeGlacier]

It didn't happen at practice all the time or I would have caught one.

P.S. Nobody cares about an INT in a game that was already over. But do continue to over look and not comment at the multiple elite throws before that got us into scoring position.

I watched several of them at practice, and the game wasn't over when the interception was thrown into the end zone.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Here's a slightly different take on it: Perhaps KAY was playing as a RS freshman this year not because he's viewed as some Frosh phenom, but simply because the other options on the roster were worse? And I highly doubt that was Bobby's plan all along...just turned out that way.

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner!

 

[mthoopsfan]

I watched several of them at practice, and the game wasn't over when the interception was thrown into the end zone.

You don't go to practice, and you don't go to the Mo Club. You just lie about those things.

 

[AZGrizFan]

So you’re saying Fife was “crap”, KAY was better, and KAY was at least the third best freshman QB The Griz have had?
Yeah, sounds about right. Good job.
Thanks for finally coming around

Lol. You want me to keep doing research? I’ve already moved him down two pegs in about 10 minutes of looking. Is he good for a freshman? Sure. Is he the best in 40 years? Not even close, as I’ve more than proven. You’ve gone from “the greatest UM QB” to “the greatest Freshman” to “arguably the best” to “at least the third best”…talk about coming around…

 

[garizzalies]

Lol. You want me to keep doing research? I’ve already moved him down two pegs in about 10 minutes of looking. Is he good for a freshman? Sure. Is he the best in 40 years? Not even close, as I’ve more than proven. You’ve gone from “the greatest UM QB” to “the greatest Freshman” to “arguably the best” to “at least the third best”…talk about coming around…

Come on my guy, I know you’re smarter than this. First, the title was click bait that continued into the first post. I never said he was the greatest of all and you know that. You are either being obtuse or dense or struggling with reading comprehension. Second, your “research” backfired on you after we pointed out you got it wrong and the only thing you had “proven” was your bias for some narrative against BH. So by all means, let’s see some more of your stellar research.

Finally, you keep missing the point. If I made a post that said red was the best primary color and here’s why ______. Would you even bother arguing with my subjective opinion?

The fact that the color red is my personal favorite primary color should not be the issue. Instead, it’s the fact that red must be pretty good to even be in the argument.

As you like to say, it ain’t rocket science.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Come on my guy, I know you’re smarter than this. First, the title was click bait that continued into the first post. I never said he was the greatest of all and you know that. You are either being obtuse or dense or struggling with reading comprehension. Second, your “research” backfired on you after we pointed out you got it wrong and the only thing you had “proven” was your bias for some narrative against BH. So by all means, let’s see some more of your stellar research.

Finally, you keep missing the point. If I made a post that said red was the best primary color and here’s why ______. Would you even bother arguing with my subjective opinion?

The fact that the color red is my personal favorite primary color should not be the issue. Instead, it’s the fact that red must be pretty good to even be in the argument.

As you like to say, it ain’t rocket science.

OK. Now the title was clickbait.

You’ve completely thrown in the towel.

Apology accepted.

 

[garizzalies]

OK. Now the title was clickbait.

You’ve completely thrown in the towel.

Apology accepted.

I don’t apologize and I never quit. You should know that by now.
Let’s see more of your stellar research.
Maybe you can find Bergquist’s stat line. I couldn’t.
If KAY has as good of a SOPHOMORE year as the one you wrongly touted after your research, won’t you look dumb again, like you did last year when you wanted to fire the coaching staff in the middle of a championship season?

 

[mthoopsfan]

Good point on all the Griz posters who wanted to fire the coach in the middle of the championship season. That made me chuckle. But but but we had lost 1 game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don’t apologize and I never quit. You should know that by now.
Let’s see more of your stellar research.
Maybe you can find Bergquist’s stat line. I couldn’t.
If KAY has as good of a SOPHOMORE year as the one you wrongly touted after your research, won’t you look dumb again, like you did last year when you wanted to fire the coaching staff in the middle of a championship season?

Right. Call it whatever you want. Complete semantics, and again, the refuge of a lost argument:

JJ played in 6 games his true frosh season. 15/20, 44 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 6 rushes 14 yards
His second season? 205/343, 2400 yards, 21 TD’s, 9 INT’s, 89 rushes, 506 yards, 4 TD’s
KAY played in 5 games his true frosh season. 26/38, 271 yards, 1td, 0 INT, 7 rushes, -15 yards
KAY second season? 112/189, 1121 yards, 7 TD’s 6 INT’s, 57 rushes, 159 yards, 7 TD’s

So, KAY was more “seasoned” than JJ by their 2nd year, regardless of what their classification was.

I can only hope KAY duplicates JJ’s “soph” season…

 

[Skookum-Jim]

This 100%. The only way to develop a QB is to play him in real games. And like all other humans, he will learn the most from the mistakes he makes. But only if he’s allowed to keep playing in real games when he makes those mistakes.

The best case scenario is that you have a great team to rise above and still win most games while he is developing. See NDSU.

You always play the QB that gives you the best chance to win. In many cases that is a mistake prone freshman. But Hauck is such a knee jerk authoritarian he doesn't let the QB play loose which is essential for having a really dynamic player.