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Just Nguyen Baby

PlayerRep said:
One more thing. Some people complain about him losing yards, and not running north/south. In the past half dozen games, he has lost 4 yards, total. That was in the MSU game.

Yep. I made that comment earlier in the Calhoun thread. Nguyen has gotten MUCH MUCH better about sticking his foot in the ground and going N/S.
 
Nguyen's longest runs in each game, starting with last Saturday. 20, 41, 5, 22, 6, 21, 16, 10, 28, 43, 48, 25.

Nguyen has lost 23 yards in 172 carries this season. Calhoun has lost 20 in 96 carries.
 
PlayerRep said:
Nguyen's longest runs in each game, starting with last Saturday. 20, 41, 5, 22, 6, 21, 16, 10, 28, 43, 48, 25.

Nguyen has lost 23 yards in 172 carries this season. Calhoun has lost 20 in 96 carries.

I respect these numbers however, I believe that if Calhoun was given the ball 172 times his numbers would be much more impressive then the longest runs of John.
Next year will hold the truth. Nguyen a senior and Calhoun a full year at starting.
I just believe John is too small to deliver the hits that are needed with this type of offense, however, he is getting yards...God love him and hope he keeps on fighting!
 
I think where he is most valuable to this offense is in his pass blocking. Very good at finding blitzing linebackers and then uses that low center of gravity and strength to stop them in their tracks. Always get nervous when he's not in the game and Brady drops back.
 
If John had "top end speed" he wouldn't be playing for Montana or in the FCS. Taiwan Jones was an anomaly in terms of speed at this level.

I respect the hell out of him. The Griz are better when he plays.
 
PlayerRep said:
...I'm always amazed at how small he is. He's been coming on and having a nice year.

I am also always amazed at how small he is, and yet he still goes out and runs quick and very hard! Tough kid. He is really looking good...

When they break the huddle and he stands next to Gus, it's comical, the size difference! I guess that's why you can't measure heart. :clap:
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
Nguyen is quick, shifty and has very good acceleration. He is not a step slow. He doesn't have big top end speed. He's not a burner. His running style allows him to find the holes and seems. He hides behind his lineman.

"We knew we had to make a play and then we blitzed right into the gap and that kid danced around us and went about 15 yards. And credit to him; he’s a good football player." SDS coach.

"Their offensive line does a really good job of sorting things out. They don’t fire off the ball, they just kind of pitter-patter and find out who’s in their gap."

Nguyen, too, credited the big guys up front with his success.

"Our offensive line is doing a great job being consistent, doing it
every single play," Nguyen said. "That’s the main reason why our rushing game’s been going."

And Nguyen is actually able to use his small stature to his advantage.

"The defensive players don’t know where I am," Nguyen said. "They kind of sit there, then I kind of hit the front door or wherever it is and shock them."

Patience is also a virtue for most any running back.

"Hitting it front side was where I was hitting it most of the time, but being patient with it and making sure my O-line worked up to their guys and then hitting the hole," Nguyen said of his thought process after taking a handoff. "That really opened up a lot of holes when I was patient back there."

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/meseroll-that-s-nguyen-as-in-win/article_a7e3fa2a-9132-52f4-977e-2addd964692c.html

I didnt say hes a step too slow..I said hes a 1/2 step too slow...and often times thats the difference between a 3 yard gain..and a 25 yarder.

I still don't agree. He is very quick, has very good acceleration, and is shifty. Those things are much more important in terms of making a 3-yard game into a better run.


I too like his shiftiness..and quickness. But can you explain to me why he seams to get caught from behind all the time? I'm not trying to bash the kid as hes been stellar this past month...but I'm trying to understand your constant defending this one simple fact.

I think a lot of the time he is getting caught by the backside D end who is not worrying about Brady running the ball on the read option. He is not losing yards on those plays, but they are not big gainers and there is not much he can do about that since the D end is generally unblocked on that play.
 
IntuitiveGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
...I'm always amazed at how small he is. He's been coming on and having a nice year.

I am also always amazed at how small he is, and yet he still goes out and runs quick and very hard! Tough kid. He is really looking good...

When they break the huddle and he stands next to Gus, it's comical, the size difference! I guess that's why you can't measure heart. :clap:

Heart is described in the football dictionary as:

1) a 5'8" running back blocking for a much bigger 6'8" quarterback,

2) a 5'8" running back running with the ball towards 300lb defensive tackles and 250lb linebackers, and/or a 200lb safety screaming up with a head of steam and with bad intentions. :shock:

John is one bad dude! :clap:
 
reinell30 said:
PlayerRep said:
Nguyen's longest runs in each game, starting with last Saturday. 20, 41, 5, 22, 6, 21, 16, 10, 28, 43, 48, 25.

Nguyen has lost 23 yards in 172 carries this season. Calhoun has lost 20 in 96 carries.

I respect these numbers however, I believe that if Calhoun was given the ball 172 times his numbers would be much more impressive then the longest runs of John.
Next year will hold the truth. Nguyen a senior and Calhoun a full year at starting.
I just believe John is too small to deliver the hits that are needed with this type of offense, however, he is getting yards...God love him and hope he keeps on fighting!

Perhaps, but Calhoun has 96 carries this year. His longs in the games he's played are: 8. 6, 6, 24, 27, 5, 11 and 7. Against ISU, EWU and MSU, he carried 21, 18 and 17 times. Only 10 against SDS. He's a good back and has the potential to be a great back. Glad we have him. Don't think he has the hands of Nguyen yet either. I'm sure he'll improve. Agree that he was nice top end speed, and will eventually get some long runs.
 
reinell, you think Calhoun will be the starting running back over Nyguen next year? Did I read that right? Ummm no. Nyguen is the clear cut starter.
 
reinell30 said:
I just believe John is too small to deliver the hits that are needed with this type of offense, however, he is getting yards...God love him and hope he keeps on fighting!
I am simply amazed that someone that small is used, essentially, as a carrier pigeon in a heavy shrapnel environment. More amazing is that he has not been hurt. Maybe that is the sign of a true athlete: performing beyond apparent limitations and getting the job done. I think he has done an extraordinary job this season.
 
I'm just shocked that John has not been crushed yet this year. He ends up on the bottom of a very big pile on every carry.
 
havgrizfan said:
reinell, you think Calhoun will be the starting running back over Nyguen next year? Did I read that right? Ummm no. Nyguen is the clear cut starter.

I do believe this. I believe he will get the majority of the carries. I also believe Logwood will contribute a lot if healthy next year. As for Joey Counts, he needs to give his scholarship to someone who can play. His injuries are ridiculous....
 
Well, I am not one to usually one to silence opinions. But, in this case, Reinell, you couldn't be more wrong. Nyugen is the No. 1 RB in 2016, but I guess, if you need proof of that, you;ll see when the depth chart comes out for the opening game.
 
Calhoun needs to work on his pass pro and pass catching to see more significant playing time. Now, he may do that over the summer, but he's not there yet.
 
havgrizfan said:
Well, I am not one to usually one to silence opinions. But, in this case, Reinell, you couldn't be more wrong. Nyugen is the No. 1 RB in 2016, but I guess, if you need proof of that, you;ll see when the depth chart comes out for the opening game.


No worries, it is all good. I guess when we get to this time next year, we will be able to see who had the most carries....Just so it is the best we have...
 
reinell30 said:
havgrizfan said:
reinell, you think Calhoun will be the starting running back over Nyguen next year? Did I read that right? Ummm no. Nyguen is the clear cut starter.

I do believe this. I believe he will get the majority of the carries. I also believe Logwood will contribute a lot if healthy next year. As for Joey Counts, he needs to give his scholarship to someone who can play. His injuries are ridiculous....

Uncalled for. It's not like he's injuring himself climbing ladders...
 
We can agree to disagree but I think we all agree that hopefully he keeps killing it. He is def in the top 7 players for this teams success
 
havgrizfan said:
Well, I am not one to usually one to silence opinions. But, in this case, Reinell, you couldn't be more wrong. Nyugen is the No. 1 RB in 2016, but I guess, if you need proof of that, you;ll see when the depth chart comes out for the opening game.

I think it's WAYYYYYYY to early to be predicting the opening game depth chart for 2016. Not even Stitt knows for sure. I also think Calhoun will get as many or more carries than Nguyen. Doesn't mean that Calhoun will be the "starter" tho.
 
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