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Judge won't give JJ all of accuser's texts.

"The only question is when did she say WHOA before or after the act?"
"Agreed. That is the only issue."
But, what if WHOA happened during? Would it be half consensual and half rape? 1/3 - 2/3? And when did the act occur? Making out? At removal of first piece of clothing? When moaning began or when it subsided? Hey, I just ask them, You can answer them.
 
Jerry Punch said:
So why are you conflating the two procecesses? You don't seem to understand the difference. The University is the one thing you can do something about, so do it, my friend. The legal process is not. The accuser is not yours to drag through the mud. The accused's attorney can do that just fine.

I will let you see how you can impact this legal proceeding on your own. I expect a response. Remember, as your friend President Obama said, "Yes. You. Can."

I can affect either process and secondly I'm not dragging the accuser through anything you dumbshit.
 
GrizPony said:
Jerry Punch said:
So why are you conflating the two procecesses? You don't seem to understand the difference. The University is the one thing you can do something about, so do it, my friend. The legal process is not. The accuser is not yours to drag through the mud. The accused's attorney can do that just fine.

I will let you see how you can impact this legal proceeding on your own. I expect a response. Remember, as your friend President Obama said, "Yes. You. Can."

I can affect either process and secondly I'm not dragging the accuser through anything you dumbshit.

This might be the most hilarious thing I have read on Egriz. So, you can affect the legal process? How so? Do you represent one of the parties? Are you a judge? Do you hope to be on the jury? Are you a witness? I'm curious to know how you think you can do anything about the legal process. I got a good laugh out of your post though.

By the way, you can disagree with me without calling me a "dumbshit." When you're out of ideas, though, you might not have any more options. I'll be waiting. :D
 
The last few pages of this are truly embarrassing. Pony, I think that it would serve you well to step back and realize that your passionate defense of JJ has gone a little over the top. The only acceptable opinion from any poster on this matter is "I do not know what happened, I am going to let the legal process run its course."
 
harrydoyle1989 said:
The last few pages of this are truly embarrassing. Pony, I think that it would serve you well to step back and realize that your passionate defense of JJ has gone a little over the top. The only acceptable opinion from any poster on this matter is "I do not know what happened, I am going to let the legal process run its course."

This is funny. I don't think I have passionately defended anything or said that I know what happened. I have no direct knowledge as to what happened that night. I do know about many inconsistencies in the prosecution's case. Maybe you could point out where I stated that I knew about what happened that night? I simply contradicted statements made by tnt and Jerry Punch that I know to be wrong. I have seen texts of the accuser, I can influence the legal process in this case, I do know all of the things I posted to be true. If you think it is crap, then don't read my posts I guess.
 
GrizPony said:
harrydoyle1989 said:
The last few pages of this are truly embarrassing. Pony, I think that it would serve you well to step back and realize that your passionate defense of JJ has gone a little over the top. The only acceptable opinion from any poster on this matter is "I do not know what happened, I am going to let the legal process run its course."

This is funny. I don't think I have passionately defended anything or said that I know what happened. I have no direct knowledge as to what happened that night. I do know about many inconsistencies in the prosecution's case. Maybe you could point out where I stated that I knew about what happened that night? I simply contradicted statements made by tnt and Jerry Punch that I know to be wrong. I have seen texts of the accuser, I can influence the legal process in this case, I do know all of the things I posted to be true. If you think it is crap, then don't read my posts I guess.

I"m not questioning the veracity of your posts. I'm asking you how you can affect the legal process.
 
GrizPony said:
harrydoyle1989 said:
The last few pages of this are truly embarrassing. Pony, I think that it would serve you well to step back and realize that your passionate defense of JJ has gone a little over the top. The only acceptable opinion from any poster on this matter is "I do not know what happened, I am going to let the legal process run its course."

This is funny. I don't think I have passionately defended anything or said that I know what happened. I have no direct knowledge as to what happened that night. I do know about many inconsistencies in the prosecution's case. Maybe you could point out where I stated that I knew about what happened that night? I simply contradicted statements made by tnt and Jerry Punch that I know to be wrong. I have seen texts of the accuser, I can influence the legal process in this case, I do know all of the things I posted to be true. If you think it is crap, then don't read my posts I guess.

And wow, did I not say above that I believe JJ got the shaft from the UM? That's what I've been saying all along. I know you believe that inconsistencies exist in the prosecutions' case. The trial will bear that out if it is true and JJ won't be convicted.
 
Pony, first, I apologize as I had a couple of your comments confused with the insane ramblings of grizpaw. Second, I think that it is pretty clear that you think that JJ is innocent, which is fine. I personally think that he will be found not guilty (as opposed to innocent) when the trial runs its course but i have no idea what happened.
 
tnt said:
Be careful how you report that buddy. I was refering to the materials and possible interpretations of them and why the evidence you were saying exhonerated him was also the very same info that was leading to his trial. I was also referring to Jane Does behavior that you said made her a liar was consistent with that of a victim. The fact that there is two sides, an upcoming trial, a lot of expert testimony may be disturbing to some of you BUT the fact remains the prosecution has a case to present and they have a lot more than he said she said, or they wouldn't do it.

Looking for an easy lay after a few drinks , by a guy who wasn't getting where he wanted with the girl he wanted but was willing to take advantage of the girl who was willing hoping for a relationship is predatory (not rape, maybe not illegal) and alcohol fueled.
She never alleged that. You made it up; completely fabricated it to justify your clear bias; indeed, an effort to maliciously contaminate the public opinion.

"Be careful how you report it" yourself; it is actionable and I hope JJ's lawyers get around to people like you after this is all over.
 
that is right i think tnt is NOTHING BUT A f#$king liar! in fact i KNOW she is and so does she! tnt YOU ARE A LIAR! :liar: :sleep: :die:
 
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