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John Stockton

BDizzle

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Doesn't have to do with Griz basketball but I thought this was very interesting. John Stockton signed on to be an assistant coach for the MSU woman's basketball team. I believe his daughter plays for them. Pretty cool. He should've came to the Griz though to learn from a legend. Wonder if that will help recruiting at all?
 
BDizzle said:
Doesn't have to do with Griz basketball but I thought this was very interesting. John Stockton signed on to be an assistant coach for the MSU woman's basketball team. I believe his daughter plays for them. Pretty cool. He should've came to the Griz though to learn from a legend. Wonder if that will help recruiting at all?


John Stockton is a Hall of Fame NBA legend. I think he knows as much if not more about basketball and coaching than just about anyone.
 
Mmont said:
BDizzle said:
Doesn't have to do with Griz basketball but I thought this was very interesting. John Stockton signed on to be an assistant coach for the MSU woman's basketball team. I believe his daughter plays for them. Pretty cool. He should've came to the Griz though to learn from a legend. Wonder if that will help recruiting at all?


John Stockton is a Hall of Fame NBA legend. I think he knows as much if not more about basketball and coaching than just about anyone.

There is a joke here in Utah about why you don't buy a car from Stockton to Malone.
[spoil]You'll never get the title! :mrgreen:[/spoil]

Same can be said for MSU. :D
 
While attending UM, I took "Coaching of Football" from Coach Swarthout. In class, he said "The #1 rule in being a head coach is never hire an assistant that can take your job away from you". Coach Tricia may have violated that rule!
 
maroonandsilver said:
While attending UM, I took "Coaching of Football" from Coach Swarthout. In class, he said "The #1 rule in being a head coach is never hire an assistant that can take your job away from you". Coach Tricia may have violated that rule!

My thoughts, exactly!

Of course, that means that one of Tricia's assistants (Kellee Barney, who announced she was leaving the program to enter private business and be with family in the Seattle area, last week.) has left the program...

Regardless, it looks like an ideal hire for MSU. I'd assume he'd give the Bobcats a pretty good recruiting marquee.
 
grizzlyjournal said:
maroonandsilver said:
While attending UM, I took "Coaching of Football" from Coach Swarthout. In class, he said "The #1 rule in being a head coach is never hire an assistant that can take your job away from you". Coach Tricia may have violated that rule!

First off, no one is safe, everyone can be replaced. I would think the number one rule would be hire people that can make your job easier. Because if you only hire people that are not as smart as you are, you have limited the success of your team by your own knowledge. I don't think this is a long term job for Mr. Stockton, but more of a way to help with his daughters success. In the mean time it surely can't hurt recruiting.
 
MTOutsider said:
grizzlyjournal said:
maroonandsilver said:
While attending UM, I took "Coaching of Football" from Coach Swarthout. In class, he said "The #1 rule in being a head coach is never hire an assistant that can take your job away from you". Coach Tricia may have violated that rule!

First off, no one is safe, everyone can be replaced. I would think the number one rule would be hire people that can make your job easier. Because if you only hire people that are not as smart as you are, you have limited the success of your team by your own knowledge. I don't think this is a long term job for Mr. Stockton, but more of a way to help with his daughters success. In the mean time it surely can't hurt recruiting.
Having been very successful in my own business, my rule of thumb for hiring people was to get the very best. I always looked for people with far more talent, drive, and ambition than I had. The trick was to keep them that way so they would not leave. If you worry about someone replacing you, you should look inward and ask yourself why.
 
GrizLA said:
MTOutsider said:
grizzlyjournal said:
maroonandsilver said:
While attending UM, I took "Coaching of Football" from Coach Swarthout. In class, he said "The #1 rule in being a head coach is never hire an assistant that can take your job away from you". Coach Tricia may have violated that rule!

First off, no one is safe, everyone can be replaced. I would think the number one rule would be hire people that can make your job easier. Because if you only hire people that are not as smart as you are, you have limited the success of your team by your own knowledge. I don't think this is a long term job for Mr. Stockton, but more of a way to help with his daughters success. In the mean time it surely can't hurt recruiting.
Having been very successful in my own business, my rule of thumb for hiring people was to get the very best. I always looked for people with far more talent, drive, and ambition than I had. The trick was to keep them that way so they would not leave. If you worry about someone replacing you, you should look inward and ask yourself why.

Well put.

Can't imagine that Stockton aspires to replace Binford anyway. He's just doing it to be around his daughter for the year. Yet all the girls will benefit tremendously from his basketball knowledge.

One of my favorite players of all time, both for his skills and savvy.
 
msu will flounder along as Binford is not that great of a coach. Stockton does not have a clue how to deal with women's basket ball and it will be interesting to watch the two coach together. I might be wrong but this might not work as well as it sounds. Coaching women is way out compared to men/boys. Some coaches can adapt some fail.
 
I agree Umista. Women's teams take a different attitude. You lose two players and suddenly the entire locker room is a joke.
 
Umista said:
msu will flounder along as Binford is not that great of a coach. Stockton does not have a clue how to deal with women's basket ball and it will be interesting to watch the two coach together. I might be wrong but this might not work as well as it sounds. Coaching women is way out compared to men/boys. Some coaches can adapt some fail.

John has been coaching women's basketball for a few years now. Coached his daughter in high school and also coached 3 other girls on a team in AAU. So he is very familiar with a few of the players.
 
My understanding is this will be a 1-year deal. MSU had an assistant leave very recently and everything fell into place for John to step in for the season allowing Binford to delay hiring a new assistant until after the season. It has also been reported that John will not coach when MSU visits Gonzaga, as he has a daughter on both teams and would rather be a dad instead of a coach. Beginning next year, he wants to have the time to attend his younger daughters Gonzaga games.
 
grizindabox said:
My understanding is this will be a 1-year deal. MSU had an assistant leave very recently and everything fell into place for John to step in for the season allowing Binford to delay hiring a new assistant until after the season. It has also been reported that John will not coach when MSU visits Gonzaga, as he has a daughter on both teams and would rather be a dad instead of a coach. Beginning next year, he wants to have the time to attend his younger daughters Gonzaga games.

Word on the street is he'll be coaching his daughter at Gonzaga next year
 
Postby Umista » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:15 pm
msu will flounder along as Binford is not that great of a coach
Binford's 2014-15 season record:

RECORD: OVERALL HOME AWAY NEUTRAL
ALL GAMES........... (15-15) (11-3) (3-11) (1-1)
CONFERENCE.......... (9-9) (7-2) (2-7) (0-0)
NON-CONFERENCE...... (6-6) (4-1) (1-4) (1-1)
MSU proposed that Binford receive a 47.2 percent raise, from a base salary of $91,709 to $135,000. With the approval of Binford’s base salary, the eighth-year Bobcat head coach is the fourth-highest paid collegiate coach in Montana.
In fact, Binford now makes more in base salary than either Division I men’s basketball coaches in the state. MSU head coach Brad Huse got a 2.45-percent raise to $113,824. Huse’s team was 12-16 last season.

UM head coach Wayne Tinkle led the Griz to a school-record 25 wins. Montana won the Big Sky Conference tournament and played in the NCAA tournament last fall. Tinkle got a raise from $124,322 to $127,308.
http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/womens-basketball/montana-state-s-binford-gets-percent-pay-raise-now-makes/article_c8359160-03a1-11e2-901d-0019bb2963f4.html

Because, "equality!"

MSU's Cruzado went to bat for Binford to get that extraordinary, really unprecendented, raise. UM's president did not lift a finger for Wayne Tinkle.

Any wonder Wayne left?
 
Let me start by saying that John is my favorite athlete of all time in any sport. His game definitely translates more to the women's game than the men's game. I can't imagine a lot of young college guys want to focus on what it truly means to have a team first/pass first attitude. I'm sure this is just a temporary stop for John
 
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