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JJ Trial

Special K said:
Jerry Punch said:
I admit that I improperly ascribed a desire to expose the victim to you. That's all on Special K.

Being able to admit you were wrong on Egriz should be considered a super power over here.

She should be exposed. JJ's name has been trampled on all over the st :o ate, as well as nationally, yet this wacko chick get impunity from being identified? I can not wait until JJ is acquitted and this tramp's name is then plastered all over the media, like she deserves. It is time for men to be counted, and to stop being victimized by unstable jock-chasers who want revenge because the dude never called back after his blue-veined trouser mouse was firmly implanted in her wanton love box.
Is it band or is it banned? :o regardless seeya asshole
 
GrizPony said:
Jerry Punch said:
GrizPony said:
Special K said:
What are you gonna do when this trial is over, and you are exposed for the dumbass that we all knew you were? You can always try for a part in a reality TV show. :twisted:

Luckily, we don't have to wait for the trial to be over before Donkey Punch is exposed as a dumbass, as that has already been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Coming from two class acts who wanted the alleged victim exposed on Egriz, I'm not surprised by your vitriol towards me. The internet tough guy act is easy to pull off.

By the way, I have NEVER said that JJ would be convicted or was automatically guilty. I said he would likely be acquitted. Pay attention.

You better hope I never find out who you are. I NEVER said I wanted the accuser exposed and challenge you to find that post or apologize immediately. You can stir the pot like an idiot, but don't ascribe bullshit like that to me again. And I'm not being "an internet tough guy", I am saying you are an idiot based upon all your past, completely proven wrong, assertions.

hey buckarro ('your team' baby horse), you need to jack down a few notches. it is a message board.
 
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Special K said:
Jerry Punch said:
I admit that I improperly ascribed a desire to expose the victim to you. That's all on Special K.

Being able to admit you were wrong on Egriz should be considered a super power over here.

She should be exposed. JJ's name has been trampled on all over the st :o ate, as well as nationally, yet this wacko chick get impunity from being identified? I can not wait until JJ is acquitted and this tramp's name is then plastered all over the media, like she deserves. It is time for men to be counted, and to stop being victimized by unstable jock-chasers who want revenge because the dude never called back after his blue-veined trouser mouse was firmly implanted in her wanton love box.
Is it band or is it banned? :o regardless seeya asshole
While I may not agree with him, I don't see a reason for him to be banned (or band for that matter). All he did was express an opinion. He didn't post her name. That being said, there is NO reason to post her name...AT ALL.
 
spokaneman said:
stubbins said:
spokaneman said:
A Lawyer friend of mine said that a defendant is NEVER put on the stand unless they feel that they are behind... Interesting...

JJ was having deep feelings for his "girlfriend", yet quickly pushed those feelings aside when he thought he was "guaranteed" some action... "Perhaps" he was not to be denied??

Interesting turn of events....


How would it look to the jury, if it was promised that they would hear the truth from JJ, and then JJ never takes the stand.

Use what ever little brain juice you have left and f***[*] think for once...

Sorry stubby I already noted that I do not have a horse in this race. I just thought that you might be tired of circle jerking each other and value some casual outside observations. But back to your circle jerk!!


So you're saying you came over here to jump in the middle of a circle jerk? Does the analogy make you as hot as a warm glazed donut?
 
Ok, I just don't get this minutes thing. When 20+ years of your life is on the line the last thing you need is a clockwatcher. Is this a part of Obamacare or what? Who make the minutes, what are their guidelines, and why do they supress the ability to call whoever thay want for however long they want in the trial? Are they filming a reality TV show? It's not like JJ got a chance to a speedy trial in the first place.
 
RobGriz said:
NorthEndZoneDan said:
Special K said:
Jerry Punch said:
I admit that I improperly ascribed a desire to expose the victim to you. That's all on Special K.

Being able to admit you were wrong on Egriz should be considered a super power over here.

She should be exposed. JJ's name has been trampled on all over the st :o ate, as well as nationally, yet this wacko chick get impunity from being identified? I can not wait until JJ is acquitted and this tramp's name is then plastered all over the media, like she deserves. It is time for men to be counted, and to stop being victimized by unstable jock-chasers who want revenge because the dude never called back after his blue-veined trouser mouse was firmly implanted in her wanton love box.
Is it band or is it banned? :o regardless seeya asshole
While I may not agree with him, I don't see a reason for him to be banned (or band for that matter). All he did was express an opinion. He didn't post her name. That being said, there is NO reason to post her name...AT ALL.
I agree. There is no reason to go there.
 
cclarkblues said:
Ok, I just don't get this minutes thing. When 20+ years of your life is on the line the last thing you need is a clockwatcher. Is this a part of Obamacare or what? Who make the minutes, what are their guidelines, and why do they supress the ability to call whoever thay want for however long they want in the trial? Are they filming a reality TV show? It's not like JJ got a chance to a speedy trial in the first place.
The number, 1440 minutes (24 hours), was imposed by the judge and, as near as anyone can tell, is totally random :coffee:
 
argh! said:
GrizPony said:
Jerry Punch said:
GrizPony said:
Luckily, we don't have to wait for the trial to be over before Donkey Punch is exposed as a dumbass, as that has already been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Coming from two class acts who wanted the alleged victim exposed on Egriz, I'm not surprised by your vitriol towards me. The internet tough guy act is easy to pull off.

By the way, I have NEVER said that JJ would be convicted or was automatically guilty. I said he would likely be acquitted. Pay attention.

You better hope I never find out who you are. I NEVER said I wanted the accuser exposed and challenge you to find that post or apologize immediately. You can stir the pot like an idiot, but don't ascribe bullshit like that to me again. And I'm not being "an internet tough guy", I am saying you are an idiot based upon all your past, completely proven wrong, assertions.

hey buckarro ('your team' baby horse), you need to jack down a few notches. it is a message board.

Hey stay out of it festus. We settled it like men. He apologized because he was wrong. So head on home and skirt your home. Your no longer needed here wee pirate. You can swab my deck and wank your plank!
 
cclarkblues said:
Ok, I just don't get this minutes thing. When 20+ years of your life is on the line the last thing you need is a clockwatcher. Is this a part of Obamacare or what? Who make the minutes, what are their guidelines, and why do they supress the ability to call whoever thay want for however long they want in the trial? Are they filming a reality TV show? It's not like JJ got a chance to a speedy trial in the first place.

Totally agree. This one lost me. So if the defense spent "too much time" questioning the state's witnesses they'd be out of time and wouldn't be able to call their own? What am I missing here? Maybe JJ should just feel lucky that Townsend let the defense say anything at all with the way some of her rulings have gone.
 
RobGriz said:
cclarkblues said:
Ok, I just don't get this minutes thing. When 20+ years of your life is on the line the last thing you need is a clockwatcher. Is this a part of Obamacare or what? Who make the minutes, what are their guidelines, and why do they supress the ability to call whoever thay want for however long they want in the trial? Are they filming a reality TV show? It's not like JJ got a chance to a speedy trial in the first place.
The number, 1440 minutes (24 hours), was imposed by the judge and, as near as anyone can tell, is totally random :coffee:

It is totally random and unConstitutional. But that document is unfollowed in this town as of late.
 
GrizPony said:
RobGriz said:
cclarkblues said:
Ok, I just don't get this minutes thing. When 20+ years of your life is on the line the last thing you need is a clockwatcher. Is this a part of Obamacare or what? Who make the minutes, what are their guidelines, and why do they supress the ability to call whoever thay want for however long they want in the trial? Are they filming a reality TV show? It's not like JJ got a chance to a speedy trial in the first place.
The number, 1440 minutes (24 hours), was imposed by the judge and, as near as anyone can tell, is totally random :coffee:

It is totally random and unConstitutional. But that document is unfollowed in this COUNTRY as of late.
FFY :)
 
I've contended all along that the Judge has purposely made seemingly random and bizare rulings against the Defense in this case to give them grounds for appeal in the unlikey event of a guilty verdict. She seems to know that the prosecutors were forced into trying this POS case with little to no evidence, and she wants to ensure that a man doesn't go to to jail for the better part of his life because of it. She seems to be doing all she can to give the Defense grounds for appeal.

I may be wrong (and lawyers, please correct me if I am), but I've never heard of a time limit on a defense for a felony charge.
 
EverettGriz said:
I've contended all along that the Judge has purposely made seemingly random and bizare rulings against the Defense in this case to give them grounds for appeal in the unlikey event of a guilty verdict. She seems to know that the prosecutors were forced into trying this POS case with little to no evidence, and she wants to ensure that a man doesn't go to to jail for the better part of his life because of it. She seems to be doing all she can to give the Defense grounds for appeal.

I may be wrong (and lawyers, please correct me if I am), but I've never heard of a time limit on a defense for a felony charge.
That's an interesting take on the judge, and on that would actually be nice to believe.....I don't, but it's an interesting thought.
 
Regarding time for trial, the Judge generally asks the parties how much time they think they will need. The parties will offer some predicted time frame, and the Judge will generally say something like, "OK, I can give you these days," roughly approximating what the parties have requested and say, "you will each have ----- minutes, is that OK?"

This portion of the conversation, whether at an omnibus hearing or in chambers, is taken before a court reporter so that a record is made.

And by that process, the time limit on the trial becomes a stipulated parameter and cannot be appealed.
 
I was out of town, and missed the "parents" testifying, but noted the following comment in the Missoulian:

"Yet again, Missoulian reporter Gwen Florio "forgets" to include the evidence most damning to the prosecution's case yesterday. When the alleged victim took the stand two weeks ago, she went into great and emotional detail about how she'd been bullied at school while a child, had to go through a year of couseling for it, bullied again in High School so badly that her parents took her out of the Great Falls school system and enrolled her in Power, where her father taught.

"Neither parent, NEITHER one, had never heard of these items, let alone lived through them. She saw a counselor two or three times as a kid due to bad dreams, and she transferred to Power HS so it was more convenient for the whole family in the mornings, since her Mom worked long hours as a nurse, and her Dad was working at another high school."

As they say, THAT'S interesting ...
 
UMGriz75 said:
I was out of town, and missed the "parents" testifying, but noted the following comment in the Missoulian:

"Yet again, Missoulian reporter Gwen Florio "forgets" to include the evidence most damning to the prosecution's case yesterday. When the alleged victim took the stand two weeks ago, she went into great and emotional detail about how she'd been bullied at school while a child, had to go through a year of couseling for it, bullied again in High School so badly that her parents took her out of the Great Falls school system and enrolled her in Power, where her father taught.

"Neither parent, NEITHER one, had never heard of these items, let alone lived through them. She saw a counselor two or three times as a kid due to bad dreams, and she transferred to Power HS so it was more convenient for the whole family in the mornings, since her Mom worked long hours as a nurse, and her Dad was working at another high school."

As they say, THAT'S interesting ...

As with any three-week trial, closing arguments will be crucial in bringing these strands together into a cohesive story.
 
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