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JJ Trial
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UMGriz75
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And, of course, that is what "reasonable doubt" is all about, and that is exactly what Paoli's closing statement will be about. That is, is it plausible?br fan said:
So far, the State is having the problem with "plausibility," and that's unusual.
Usually, at this point in a trial it's "wow, how's this guy going to get out of this," and then the Defense, in its case in chief, will show how, assuming they can. It's rare to see questions about plausibility reasonably and legitimately raised about the State's case at this stage of the proceedings.
The problem for the State's case is that, given the fumbling contradictions that have so permeated the State's witness testimonies as they appear in the record so far, without the Defense version being presented yet, the alternative scenario can be plausibly presented based entirely on the State's own evidence. Dave Paoli could give a closing statement Wednesday that would offer classic reasonable doubt.
The State isn't done yet, but generally on the prosecution side, the strong witnesses go first.
Jerry Punch
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UMGriz75 said:
You're right. I am agreeing with you. I don't know anything about what nobody outside of the Court saw. Jesus Christ, man. Give it up! I am AGREEING with you! I am not saying anyone is lying. I am saying that things happened inside the Court, pertinent to this case, that was closed to the public, including but not limited to YOU.
Jerry Punch
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But did you see the pictures? If you did, please reveal the contents of those photos to better help my feeble mind understand what happened here.
UMGriz75
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The Nurse Examiner offered direct and cross testimony in extensive detail about the examination and the contents of the photographs. Had I seen them, not being a Nurse Examiner, it is doubtful I could tell you any more than what the extensively developed, public record actually said about them, offered by the person who took the photographs and was actually there.Jerry Punch said:
Indeed, had I seen the photographs, I could likely tell you less than she did, and would refer any fair-minded intelligent person to refer to that public testimony rather than trying to make medical conclusions or diagnoses on their own, or to think that they can for some reason.
I hope that helps.
You are the one who brought up the pictures and what happened in closed court. 75 never claimed he saw them. His point is that whatever may have happened doesn't change the fact that either the accuser or the nurse lied. Both of them said it in open court and anything that happened in closed court cannot change the fact that one of them lied. You are getting your ass handed to you and looking foolish. Please continue.Jerry Punch said:
Jerry Punch said:
Shut up.
ilovethecats
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:lol:
Jerry Punch
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You guys act like you know 100% of what happened during the closed session. I'm saying you don't. That is it. If I get banned for getting you to concede the point, then so be it.
Jerry Punch said:
Look Jackass, I haven't heard anyone say they know what happened in the closed session. Quit trolling or get your sad ass into your car, drive to Missoula and post your own opinions.
I am against banning anyone. Free speech and all. I just think you guys are going back and forth and back and forth and saying the same thing and then expecting the other side to concede a point. You guys act like it isn't free speech. You act like you are getting paid by the word. Unless there is something new to add, why keep posting? You two are never going to sway the other person.
Copper Griz
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Nobody said they know what happened in closed court. YOU are the only one saying anyone claimed they did, or even thinks it is relevant to what both the accuser and the nurse said in open court. What gives you the right to insist anyone concede a point that they never even made? I think I understand the hall monitor analogy now. You are a fricking idiot, and I won't bother responding to your nonsense anymore.Jerry Punch said:
