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JJ Trial

argh! said:
yeah, um75 is very insightful, in that he has a view from inside johnson's butt. if you can't see the bias, well...

Good thing you decided to chase hampsters around instead of attending law school. If you looked at the evidence, and still can not see that this tramp is a psychopath out for sympathy, then your politically correct mantra is clouding reason. Any girl who allows a guy to skewer her in the doggy position, without attempting to get away, does not utter a sound while this is occurring and her roommate within 10 feet away, and who waits six weeks to claim that she was raped.......was not raped.
 
Special K said:
Her name should be posted. JJ's name certainly has been dragged through broken glass on a local, state, and national level, and yet this b*tch's name remains a mystery? Please, someone with balls post her name.

You must not have any. That's not how we do things in this state. I don't care who you call yourself a fan of. It is not only about class, but it's about the law. You drag her name through the mud and find out who she is, but that's on you.

There are no winners in this game no matter what happens. Name her. I dare you. And your balls won't be bigger for it.
 
There is no legal duty for egrizzers to not post her name...there is most likely a moral obligation not to, but we are under no court order. Or maybe you are under a court order JP?
 
Jerry Punch said:
Special K said:
Her name should be posted. JJ's name certainly has been dragged through broken glass on a local, state, and national level, and yet this b*tch's name remains a mystery? Please, someone with balls post her name.

You must not have any. That's not how we do things in this state. I don't care who you call yourself a fan of. It is not only about class, but it's about the law. You drag her name through the mud and find out who she is, but that's on you.

There are no winners in this game no matter what happens. Name her. I dare you. And your balls won't be bigger for it.

GFY Punchdrunk. I would name on this board immediately if I knew her name.
 
granitegriz said:
There is no legal duty for egrizzers to not post her name...there is most likely a moral obligation not to, but we are under no court order. Or maybe you are under a court order JP?

I just wrote that I think naming her is sad at best and morally irresponsible at worst. What do you gain from naming her? Is the rage here at her so palpable that naming her brings you some sort of catharsis? I don't understand it. Her story is being challenged and exposed in every possible way and the jury will see that. Her justice will come soon. So will JJ's. But if it helps you to name her and direct rage at her, make her feel miserable and responsible for JJ's situation, then so be it.
 
Special K said:
Jerry Punch said:
Special K said:
Her name should be posted. JJ's name certainly has been dragged through broken glass on a local, state, and national level, and yet this b*tch's name remains a mystery? Please, someone with balls post her name.

You must not have any. That's not how we do things in this state. I don't care who you call yourself a fan of. It is not only about class, but it's about the law. You drag her name through the mud and find out who she is, but that's on you.

There are no winners in this game no matter what happens. Name her. I dare you. And your balls won't be bigger for it.

GFY Punchdrunk. I would name on this board immediately if I knew her name.


Why?
 
granitegriz said:
Geddes~I could take a wild guess but I am not going there. :?

Well, he is a cat fan, so possibly the ninth guy in an eight man circle jerk..

Joksies..

All men were created equal..
 
Special K said:
Jerry Punch said:
Special K said:
Her name should be posted. JJ's name certainly has been dragged through broken glass on a local, state, and national level, and yet this b*tch's name remains a mystery? Please, someone with balls post her name.

You must not have any. That's not how we do things in this state. I don't care who you call yourself a fan of. It is not only about class, but it's about the law. You drag her name through the mud and find out who she is, but that's on you.

There are no winners in this game no matter what happens. Name her. I dare you. And your balls won't be bigger for it.

GFY Punchdrunk. I would name on this board immediately if I knew her name.
You must not want to know very bad because it would take about 5 minutes if that to figure it out. Using a little think called the Internet. Regardless though it would be in pretty poor taste to release the name at this point.
 
Copper Griz said:
GrizMusician said:
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
the whole 'scorned girlfriend' b.s. goes out the window with her immediate response to the event - saying she was raped. i imagine things would be a lot different if the person she told this to at the scene hadn't grown up in a jock-worshiping environment.
Well, being literally "left at the altar" and publicly humiliated the night before by the guy, bringing the guy home the next evening, having playful sex, then immediately claiming rape, a well-known campus drama queen with an infatuation for star athletes, pretending to be withdrawn and devastated, but texting everyone in sight with smiley faces "its all good!", and being so withdrawn and depressed that she's busy calling high priced law firms to see how she can set this up to get some money out of it, and launching her own independent investigation into JJ's sexual history, while sending out 27,000 text messages because "she didn't want anybody to know," certainly paints an interesting portrait, one that did not make it into the lexicon of the Expert Witness.

No, I doubt that "scorned girlfriend" is exactly the level of response that certainly describes one specific scenario of this case -- "scorned psychopath" is more accurate -- and one by the way that is far better supported so far by the evidence (and will be) than the "alcohol-fueled sexual predator" meme advocated without evidence by certain posters.

Yesterday's closing testimony was, once again, devastating for the Prosecution. I really don't know why they called Bink. If they were scrapping the bottom for character witnesses, that showed it.

Here's her high school sweethheart, nicest guy, obviously still pining for a relationship with her; but, she's gone off to college, and she's smitten with the athletes. He's been cast aside. But, she still uses him as her crutch. They're close and yet the jury, in their common experience, will see that its because he's still kind of hanging on. It was clear he's never gotten a new girlfriend. And it would have been sweet to hear how close they have remained, except for the part that, when she gets the chance to date the star quarterback, she drops him like a hot rock, at the last minute, lies about it to him ... and then carefully seeks him out afterward to make sure that he knows how she feels, to seek comfort, to seek refuge ... and to make sure he "see's how she is." He played his unknowing assigned role to the tee.

Here's what the jury didn't hear yesterday from this hapless young man: any expression from her, even an ounce of remorse, about lying to him, ditching him at the last minute, bouncing him out of her life at the slightest hint of a romantic encounter, in her bedroom, in her bed, with the star quarterback.

He "would trust her with his life." "She never lied to him." If I were him, I'd get a new ex-girlfriend. The sheer ruthless cynicism of how she treated, abused and manipulated that loyal relationship was on full display in the Courtroom.

No, instead of offering any remorse whatsoever, she sought him out afterward to perpetuate "the story" and to carry the burden of her life, apparently not caring she had just dumped him unceremoniously the night before.

With that particular person, there was not a single hint from the testimony that she offered a single hint that she felt badly about the way she treated him; that her behavior had been in any way, abusive and manipulative.

You could see it. He's still in love. He's literally the abused boyfriend, always willing to come back.

But he also distanced himself, in the words the Jury will now consider for four long days: "it's her show."

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Very insightful and good observations of human behavior. I just wonder how many jurors are as perceptive as you. Hopefully they have a heightened sense of observation and awareness since they are sitting there listening to testimony. My fear is some may check out mentally -

I can't say that what he's saying about the girl is true or not, because I don't know her.

As for what he's saying about Bink...well I can assure you that most of it is without a doubt false. 75 would make a decent author though, he's got a pretty vivid imagination.
 
Let's leave her name off the boards and show a little class. I'm sure you can do a little research to find it out if you are so inclined.
 
bigkid said:
The reality is knowing her name doesn't change a thing other than curiosity.
I will say when I first learned it it actually made me more sympathetic. Didn't change my over all guilt or innocence thought, but I guess it made it more personal even though I don't know the person personally.
 
krammer said:
first i have not read this whole thread, 2nd, i'm sure this is course 101 in law school,,,my question is simple....why is it ok to keep the accuser name and face from the media and not the accused....he is not guilty of anything yet, so what is the difference???? please explain the law here...thanks..
There is no legal reason why her name cannot be revealed. In the past, some states had laws prohibiting the media from revealing the names of alleged rape victims; however, when challenged in court, these laws were generally struck down as unconstitutional.

Despite the lack of legal protection, though, media outlets generally won't publicize the names of alleged rape victims, out of recognition of the difficulty they face in coming forward to complain against their alleged attackers. I recognize the dichotomy between their anonymity and the public shaming that the accused rapist receives; however, I still hope that no one on this board will identify the accuser in this case. I know that a lot of us think JJ is probably "innocent," and I understand the sentiment that it would somehow be "fair" to name her, but please understand that it would not help JJ. The best thing any of us can do at this point is to watch the justice system play out, and accept the result (whatever it may be).
 
Just read the Missoulian article in today's paper. While I agree that there is nothing in there that is truly biased I can certainly see a case where either GF and/or the Missoulian Editorial staff is trying to sway the public. One does not get the sense out of this article and the others that have appeared this week that the Prosecution is doing as badly as it seems to be from the tweet threads, comments I have heard from people who are watching and this board. If anything, the reporting would lead the general population to think that the Prosecution is at least on equal footing at this point. While that may not be biased, it certainly doesn't seem objective, and may ultimately prove to be a disservice to the community. If JJ is acquitted and all one knows about the trial is what they have read in the Missoulian, that verdict may come as quite a shock.

Let's see how the reporting is when the Defense puts on their case.
 
cclarkblues said:
Let's leave her name off the boards and show a little class. I'm sure you can do a little research to find it out if you are so inclined.
its amazing what google knows about people.....scary when you really think about it.

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Special K said:
argh! said:
yeah, um75 is very insightful, in that he has a view from inside johnson's butt. if you can't see the bias, well...

Good thing you decided to chase hampsters around instead of attending law school. If you looked at the evidence, and still can not see that this tramp is a psychopath out for sympathy, then your politically correct mantra is clouding reason. Any girl who allows a guy to skewer her in the doggy position, without attempting to get away, does not utter a sound while this is occurring and her roommate within 10 feet away, and who waits six weeks to claim that she was raped.......was not raped.

now now sunny, i chase "hamsters" not hampsters. what is a hampster, anyway? a cross between a laundry hamper and ci-tay's dumpster?
 
Jerry Punch said:
granitegriz said:
There is no legal duty for egrizzers to not post her name...there is most likely a moral obligation not to, but we are under no court order. Or maybe you are under a court order JP?

I just wrote that I think naming her is sad at best and morally irresponsible at worst. What do you gain from naming her? Is the rage here at her so palpable that naming her brings you some sort of catharsis? I don't understand it. Her story is being challenged and exposed in every possible way and the jury will see that. Her justice will come soon. So will JJ's. But if it helps you to name her and direct rage at her, make her feel miserable and responsible for JJ's situation, then so be it.

Don't you and others get sick of being politically correct? This tramp has ruined JJ's life, his athletic career, and his parent's name. Why should she be allowed to hide? She deserves everything coming to her. I will cut her no slack. The precedent must be set by this trial, costing the state hundreds of thousands of dollars, and ruining a kid's life, so that no other hussy gets a similar idea about using the rape card when she drops her panties and the guy never calls back afterward.

The next thing will be coaches from opposing teams paying for some slut to cry rape, so as to bench the star player from the other team. Of course, nobody ever thought of those possibilities, huh? This is big business now in college sports. Everything has changed and is now fair game, it seems. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
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