JJ still enrolled

[Umista]

Damn this story and the rumors it created. My wife cut me off after she read this JJ BS. Even more rotten is my girl friend now want ME to sign a consent form before any more U-know!

First thing tomorrow morning I am calling Growler, Alpha and Royce for assistance and helpful information to get out of this mess. I figured on a nice quiet summer calling out bobcat pee posters but to my dismay I am having all these problems over an alleged rape that was a simple false call. Sorta like off sides, double dribble and a big breasted blonde all rolled into one.

Smart money is on this to continue until half time of the first game. A "no comment" is now forth coming on all UM rape issues, what a fleeping joke. Shame is really setting in at the U.

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

No, the University released a statement that stated that JJ is currently still a student at UM, he is academically in good standing, and a member of the football team. They did not say the story about his expulsion was incorrect. As to their motive for this statement, I do not know.

...pre-enrolled for the fall-semester. Doesn't that say just about the same thing?

Same thing as what?

Same thing as saying that the consideration of dealing with the notion of expulsion hasn't been dealt with, whether in the present nor in the forthcoming future, such as recognized by..."pre-enrolled in fall-semester." With that they don't have to say that any rumor of expulsion was incorrect for the "pre-enrolled for the fall-semester" trumps the expulsion rumor; duh.

 

[grizindabox]

Wyoming, whether or not JJ is pre-registered for Fall has no bearing on whether or not he might be expelled.

 

[GottaluvGriz]

No, the University released a statement that stated that JJ is currently still a student at UM, he is academically in good standing, and a member of the football team. They did not say the story about his expulsion was incorrect. As to their motive for this statement, I do not know.

...pre-enrolled for the fall-semester. Doesn't that say just about the same thing?

Same thing as what?

grizindabox, lets start over:
consider the tweets never happened by Rachac.....
The university comes out today with the statement that JJ is pre-enrolled for the fall, is on the football roster and is in good standing.
1). Would this statement even get a mention by Florio in today's paper? (probably not)
2) Would any of us be concerned about motives for releasing that statement? (probably would)

Since this statement does follow behind the Rachac tweets it becomes newsworthy only because it serves to dispel the JJ expelled rumor that the Gazette and Missoulian created and perpetuated.
It is logical to believe the motive for the University to release the statement is to dispute the tweets and rumors surrounding JJ being expelled.

 

[Cats2506]

The spin on this will be interesting in cat land.

Because the Cats played what role in this?

Sorry, I should have been more specific. 2506 and his homies haven't showed up for months and then the report of JJ gone and wa-la, they show up. Was talking about the .5% of cat fans.

This is such a dysfunctional shitshow, I dont need to post to get a good laugh

 

[grizatwork]

Maybe there is truth to both sides. Maybe he is expelled for summer term, but allowed to enroll for fall term??? Just thinking out loud.

 

[grizindabox]

No, the University released a statement that stated that JJ is currently still a student at UM, he is academically in good standing, and a member of the football team. They did not say the story about his expulsion was incorrect. As to their motive for this statement, I do not know.

...pre-enrolled for the fall-semester. Doesn't that say just about the same thing?

Same thing as what?

grizindabox, lets start over:
consider the tweets never happened by Rachac.....
The university comes out today with the statement that JJ is pre-enrolled for the fall, is on the football roster and is in good standing.
1). Would this statement even get a mention by Florio in today's paper? (probably not)
2) Would any of us be concerned about motives for releasing that statement? (probably would)

Since this statement does follow behind the Rachac tweets it becomes newsworthy only because it serves to dispel the JJ expelled rumor that the Gazette and Missoulian created and perpetuated.
It is logical to believe the motive for the University to release the statement is to dispute the tweets and rumors surrounding JJ being expelled.

But it does not dispel the rumors, it does not even mention the expulsion talk. All the statement does is tell me that if the expulsion talk is real, then it has not been finalized. I am not saying there is anything to the rumor, but the statement does nothing to deny.

 

[grizindabox]

Maybe there is truth to both sides. Maybe he is expelled for summer term, but allowed to enroll for fall term??? Just thinking out loud.

Wouldn't that be a suspension and not expulsion?

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

...pre-enrolled for the fall-semester. Doesn't that say just about the same thing?

Same thing as what?

grizindabox, lets start over:
consider the tweets never happened by Rachac.....
The university comes out today with the statement that JJ is pre-enrolled for the fall, is on the football roster and is in good standing.
1). Would this statement even get a mention by Florio in today's paper? (probably not)
2) Would any of us be concerned about motives for releasing that statement? (probably would)

Since this statement does follow behind the Rachac tweets it becomes newsworthy only because it serves to dispel the JJ expelled rumor that the Gazette and Missoulian created and perpetuated.
It is logical to believe the motive for the University to release the statement is to dispute the tweets and rumors surrounding JJ being expelled.

But it does not dispel the rumors, it does not even mention the expulsion talk. All the statement does is tell me that if the expulsion talk is real, then it has not been finalized. I am not saying there is anything to the rumor, but the statement does nothing to deny.

Why should the university have to dispel rumors started by some one else? Let whosoever that is yapping yap all they want but it doesn't change the university's previous and/or at present position/situation:.."in good standing and pre-enrolled for the fall semester." Why chase after shadows? Deal with what is and let people speak for themselves: proving whether they're a fool or not in the process. In other words, let them dig their own graves. No one is responsible for any one else's lack of objectivity.

Why bother expending needless energy and time on any silly rumour that floats by; even the U.S. Supreme Court doesn't have to hear every case brought forth unto them. Some things are just deemed for what they're worth; mere frivolity. Some people just take themselves just too damn seriously like a "Much Ado over nothing."

 

[mtgrizrule]

Well this is better news for JJ, the team, and GRIZ NATION. I questioned the decision to being expelled, before having the facts. Regardless of reasoning, Engstrom made the most common sense temporary decision, under the circumstances. Legally, he also did not lead on, one way or the other. Engstrom gets an A in this aspect for this most recent update.

For those questioning why now, and why in the way he did? It makes sense to me. How long was he away? He just gets back, and has 1000's of emails, and voice mails to go through. The majority coming from the rumored Expulsion, of your teams starting QB. Couple that with God knows how many legal things he is working on. The legal crap could not be put off. Meanwhile, he decides to hold off the wolves, and buy some time, until fall camp, at least. He says what he did today, if for anything, to lessen the monotony of this nightmare.

I am sure he will still be plenty busy working on this, and all the other crap, but this is the one thing he had most control over. He also gave an honest regarding JJ's status with the school, and team. My guess is, if this is still in limbo come fall camp, JJ could find himself suspended from team activities, until more is known. If, they find out positives supporting JJ's side, it will be a good sign to see him at practicing in fall camp.

Anything less than that outcome, we just need to wait for the process to take it's course. Speaking of JJ, whoever is legal counsel is, they are doing one hell of a job, not making this worse for JJ, Missoula, the school, and state. Whoever they are, my applause goes to them.

Apparently Engstrom's counsel is doing one hell of job too. Had he said anything more, or less. it could have been used for O'day, Pflu, feds, and the accuser(s).

With that said. I am pulling for, and praying for JJ to be found innocent. Also praying the accuser is able to go on with her life, somewhat normally, without any ridicule, and has a good life too.

 

[GottaluvGriz]

Same thing as what?

grizindabox, lets start over:
consider the tweets never happened by Rachac.....
The university comes out today with the statement that JJ is pre-enrolled for the fall, is on the football roster and is in good standing.
1). Would this statement even get a mention by Florio in today's paper? (probably not)
2) Would any of us be concerned about motives for releasing that statement? (probably would)

Since this statement does follow behind the Rachac tweets it becomes newsworthy only because it serves to dispel the JJ expelled rumor that the Gazette and Missoulian created and perpetuated.
It is logical to believe the motive for the University to release the statement is to dispute the tweets and rumors surrounding JJ being expelled.

But it does not dispel the rumors, it does not even mention the expulsion talk. All the statement does is tell me that if the expulsion talk is real, then it has not been finalized. I am not saying there is anything to the rumor, but the statement does nothing to deny.

Why should the university have to dispel rumors started by some one else? Let whosoever that is yapping yap all they want but it doesn't change the university's previous and/or at present position/situation:.."in good standing and pre-enrolled for the fall semester." Why chase after shadows? Deal with what is and let people speak for themselves: proving whether they're a fool or not in the process. In other words, let them dig their own graves. No one is responsible for any one else's lack of objectivity.

Amen......
Enough said

 

[GrizDDS]

The thing that makes me wonder is that UM did not rush to negate the story, which speaks louder than what they did say.

Wasn't this "story" released Friday evening before a 3-day holiday weekend?

Not sure what you mean. The info was tweeted by a few reporters, but I would not say the story was released by anyone. But today UM released a statement and did not deny the story.

Nevermind. I thought you meant the announcement didn't come soon enough.

 

[grizpsych]

No, the University released a statement that stated that JJ is currently still a student at UM, he is academically in good standing, and a member of the football team. They did not say the story about his expulsion was incorrect. As to their motive for this statement, I do not know.

...pre-enrolled for the fall-semester. Doesn't that say just about the same thing?

No, these are entirely different words.

 

[GrizMusician]

Could you imagine getting online to find out that you had been rumored to be expelled? I couldn't imagine being in JJ's position.

Me no gusta.

 

[Grizbacker1]

Maybe there is truth to both sides. Maybe he is expelled for summer term, but allowed to enroll for fall term??? Just thinking out loud.

that has not happenned, thanks for playing

 

[GrizPony]

Could you imagine getting online to find out that you had been rumored to be expelled? I couldn't imagine being in JJ's position.

Me no gusta.

He was there. He is not surprised.

 

[griz4life]

Looking at the Griz football roster, I noticed that Chris Bradford is on the team. Does anyone know if that's correct? I thought he bailed. If he is still a Griz, why are we not hearing much about his play on D-Line? He looked like a future starter a year ago.

 

[poorgriz]

Damn this story and the rumors it created. My wife cut me off after she read this JJ BS. Even more rotten is my girl friend now want ME to sign a consent form before any more U-know!

First thing tomorrow morning I am calling Growler, Alpha and Royce for assistance and helpful information to get out of this mess. I figured on a nice quiet summer calling out bobcat pee posters but to my dismay I am having all these problems over an alleged rape that was a simple false call. Sorta like off sides, double dribble and a big breasted blonde all rolled into one.

Smart money is on this to continue until half time of the first game. A "no comment" is now forth coming on all UM rape issues, what a fleeping joke. Shame is really setting in at the U.

Another completely weird post.

 

[Raider]

Incessant, never-ending agenda and shtick aside, grizindabox is right on this one.

That article tells us nothing at this point. You guys are reading way too much into it, and this is far from over. I would not hold my breath on #10 being under center this fall.

 

[griz4life]

That article tells us nothing at this point. You guys are reading way too much into it, and this is far from over. I would not hold my breath on #10 being under center this fall.

I don't know if it tells us nothing. Suddenly, the president of a flagship university cannot comment about what's happening at his own campus. The commissioner of higher ed's office is doing the talking. Think about it, a bureaucrat in an office 100 miles from Missoula is now the point man for an issue as campus specific as a student conduct matter. That's how adrift the UM campus currently is.
What Asst Commish McRae has provided is nothing more than public information, not an explanation. He cites enrollment status and the notoriously stale UM football roster. He has said nothing about the outcome of the conduct hearing, or where the matter is currently. He's basically telling everyone to go pound sand.

The newspapers who tweeted about the expulsion last week have retracted nothing. And it does not appear that a retraction has been requested. Montana law is pretty specific about libel defense. If the University of Montana or Jordan Johnson was in a position to demand a retraction they could not only get it, they could make sure it was displayed with some prominence. That doesn't seem to be happening.