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Jim O'Day: Coaching salaries

He is a class act and the information was very interesting. He even asks for topics to discuss. I can think of a few. :thumb:
 
All things considered, primarily the political climate, they need to be looking at a percentage of ticket sales going to coaches salaries, but Montana needs to be competitive with peer institutions, which should include NDSU, Idaho, Weber, et. al.

It would have to be justified by program revenue, but there needs to be appropriate priority attached to it. Montana's got a good thing going with athletics and it isn't immoral. I see much good coming with a little bit of bad. It would be sad to see Montana slip back after leading the way for as long as it has.
 
Don't forget the Football Team has to RENT out Washington Grizzly. And the price to rent the stadium every week to practice is not cheap.

If an outside news source knew about this and published it, we would become the laughing stock of college athletics.
 
Not sure what exactly his point is about the average income of a MT family at the end there. He talks about how much these coaches make in places like Idaho, North Carolina, Arkasas, Alabama, etc, then fails to mention that the average family income in these places is about the same as MT. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2010/10/05/median-us-household-income-by-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
WaGriz4life said:
Don't forget the Football Team has to RENT out Washington Grizzly. And the price to rent the stadium every week to practice is not cheap.

If an outside news source knew about this and published it, we would become the laughing stock of college athletics.
Uh, not so much. Paying "rent" is not that uncommon, even at the big-time level. Check out this ESPN.GO.com article: http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/743/multiple-ways-to-finance-college-stadiums
Here's one key quote:
Kristi Dosh said:
The Tiger Athletic Foundation, which supports LSU and its athletic department, uses a couple of financing methods. In 1999, the foundation issued $43.6 million in bonds for renovations and improvements to the east-side upper deck of Tiger Stadium. And the foundation issued $90 million more in bonds in 2004 to finance the renovation of the west-side upper deck.

A provision of the bond agreements for both issuances requires the athletic department to pay rent of a combined $4.5 million per year, which is the second example of athletic facility finance.

Some universities will pay for construction projects, then rent the facilities to the athletic departments. At Ohio State, the athletic department paid more than $2 million to rent the Jerome Schottenstein Center for the 2011-12 school year for men’s and women’s basketball and men’s ice hockey. It paid another $1.2 million for its share of operational expenses for the McCorkle Aquatic Pavilion. In addition, the athletic department paid rent for two buildings used for academic services for athletes: the Younkin Success Center at a cost of $501,338 and the Fawcett Center at $76,613. The athletic department also paid $986,000 for use of the Fawcett Center for athletic offices.
Same idea, although the numbers are mind-boggling to us poor folks in FCS. :o

But back to the main point: I found the O'Day article really interesting. We've kicked around on here various notions about what might "kill" FCS football. I think Mr. O'Day has identified a prime candidate.
 
Kristi Dosh said:
The athletic department also paid $986,000 for use of the Fawcett Center for athletic offices.
See, when the issue of "rent" came up, I said to myself: "Self? Was Dennison smart enough to cook up the idea on his own?" I concluded that, while he is undoubtedly an intelligent individual, he wasn't "smart" in that sense. :)

Seems like the practice must be pretty common.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Kristi Dosh said:
The athletic department also paid $986,000 for use of the Fawcett Center for athletic offices.
See, when the issue of "rent" came up, I said to myself: "Self? Was Dennison smart enough to cook up the idea on his own?" I concluded that, while he is undoubtedly an intelligent individual, he wasn't "smart" in that sense. :)

Seems like the practice must be pretty common.
I wonder if the basketball teams have to pay rent for Dahlberg....
 
GrizLA said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Kristi Dosh said:
The athletic department also paid $986,000 for use of the Fawcett Center for athletic offices.
See, when the issue of "rent" came up, I said to myself: "Self? Was Dennison smart enough to cook up the idea on his own?" I concluded that, while he is undoubtedly an intelligent individual, he wasn't "smart" in that sense. :)

Seems like the practice must be pretty common.
I wonder if the basketball teams have to pay rent for Dahlberg....
Don't know, but I'll bet they do.
 
The practice of "renting" a building is a common practice in the business world. Say I own a store and run a business inside of it. My business would pay my store rent. I own both, but they are seperate businesses. When a business is as big as a university, it makes it a lot easier to keep track of expenses among other benifits.
 
Talking about salaries, The Reno Gazette Journal published the Nevada Wolf Packs coaching salaries.

Head Coach - $493,093
Safeties/D. Coordinator - $150,974
RB's/Special Teams coach - $136,473
Linebackers Coach - $132,118
QB's/O. Coordinator - $125,975
Offensive Line Coach - $104,979
Defensive Line Coach - $102,415
Cornerback Coach - $100,443
Wide Receivers - $89,232
Tight Ends Coach - $89,232

Total MWC Football Coaching Budgets

Boise - $4.335M
CSU - $2.910M
Air Force - $2.223M
SDSU - $2.226M
Wyoming - $2.124M
New Mexico - $1.925M
Fresno State - $1.925M
Nevada - $1.525M
UNLV - $1.505M
Hawaii - N/A

Sustaining a coaching Staff in the Big Sky is tough when there are salaries like this.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
GrizLA said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Kristi Dosh said:
The athletic department also paid $986,000 for use of the Fawcett Center for athletic offices.
See, when the issue of "rent" came up, I said to myself: "Self? Was Dennison smart enough to cook up the idea on his own?" I concluded that, while he is undoubtedly an intelligent individual, he wasn't "smart" in that sense. :)

Seems like the practice must be pretty common.
I wonder if the basketball teams have to pay rent for Dahlberg....
Don't know, but I'll bet they do.

Yes, they do.
 
grizpack said:
IdaGriz01 said:
GrizLA said:
IdaGriz01 said:
See, when the issue of "rent" came up, I said to myself: "Self? Was Dennison smart enough to cook up the idea on his own?" I concluded that, while he is undoubtedly an intelligent individual, he wasn't "smart" in that sense. :)

Seems like the practice must be pretty common.
I wonder if the basketball teams have to pay rent for Dahlberg....
Don't know, but I'll bet they do.

Yes, they do.

Well, between the Men and the Womens' programs the rent better be equal...I assume volleyball is paying as well....strange way to run a public university when the students pay for the buildings...
 
GrizLA said:
grizpack said:
IdaGriz01 said:
GrizLA said:
I wonder if the basketball teams have to pay rent for Dahlberg....
Don't know, but I'll bet they do.

Yes, they do.

Well, between the Men and the Womens' programs the rent better be equal...I assume volleyball is paying as well....strange way to run a public university when the students pay for the buildings...


Yeah it seems strange, but like a local government, when you understand it it seems to make more sense. It sounds like UM's Athletic Department is set up more like a separate enterprise rather than a department within the University.

For instance, many cities are "charged" by their respective water/sewer department for water and sewage, and in return the water and sewer departments are "charged" for easement for allowing pipes to be run on city property, and even for management and administration. Auditors like these kind of setups since it keeps funding separate and "clean" even if it does seem somewhat counter intuitive, It separates enterprises and does allow the government entity to more easily outsource management or entire enterprises if they wish.

These kinds of setups are usually done when a significant portion of the enterprises income comes from their own funding (water & sewer bills) rather than the entities general fund.
 
article was WAY to long and had to many numbers. all i need to know is that ogay is the scrot sniffer who covered up all the rapers on the griz and got the team into deep shizz. class act my crack son. good ridance.
 
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