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Jeremy Calhoun - isn't it ironic

Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
What is MB and why was he kicked off?

That's not important right now, Eric. What's important is that you keep your eyes peeled for that bastard. He live in Missoula part of the year and the rest in a yurt in the shitty part of Yuma (is that redundant?). He claims to go to the Mo Club a lot. Unless you want to run the risk of running into that lying shitbird, I would stop going to the Mo Club, Eric. Seriously, you want nothing to do with that scumbag. He's a vile, fat, no- good bigot.

Ha ha ha, well I don't get to the Mo club often since I moved to Cali for work. Been years since I have been home

That's a good move Eric G! Steve is deathly afraid of California. He's a homophobic too and worried about catching "the gay" if he goes there. I know, what a complete f***[*] douche bag, huh, Eric G? The guy is such a loser. He was some sort of failed, shyster pharmaceutical salesman until it all collapsed on him--probably Chapter 11. Now he just goes from football board to football board annoying people with his lies and pomposity, until he gets band ( again). It is all kind of sad really, Eric G. But he is such an over the top ruthless bastard that it's hard to have any sympathy for his rotten, oily hide.

I don't know if you're a religious man, Eric G., but if so you should thank heaven you don't know that despicable, fetid, bombastic, lying, clown, f***[*].

Ok, I get the point I will avoid him if I ever run into him.
 
AZGrizFan said:
I don't think its ironic at all. I wouldn't put it past Bobby's ego to insist on that play (TWICE) simply to show JC how we can move along without him. And it blew up in his face.

Good grief
 
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
AZGrizFan said:
I don't think its ironic at all. I wouldn't put it past Bobby's ego to insist on that play (TWICE) simply to show JC how we can move along without him. And it blew up in his face.

Good grief

I know, a stupid as fukc take.
 
Bobbyc said:
84GRIZ said:
cf2000 said:
If Hauck hadn't screwed Calhoun over from the beginning there wouldn't have been talk of a redshirt year. Sure he sat out the first two games, but how much playing time did he get from Game 3 and on? Only one of those games was he injured and wasn't able to go. The rest of them, he should have been our starter and had the bulk of the carries. Sorry, this is on Hauck.

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

I agree Hauck did the right thing. Winning at any cost with bad people is not the approach that should be taken given the sordid history under engstrom
Winning at any cost? What does that mean in this situtation? Is JC a bad person now? If he was such a bad person then why didn’t Hauck simply send him packing last summer. He was still on the team but was rarely used even though he was the best rb on the team. What was the point of wasting a scholarship on him this year if they had no intention of playing him? I was in the Az ”Haucksucker” camp and I’m still pulling for him to turn things around but I’m not going to ignore the obvious. What sucks for the team and especially the seniors who played with him for 4 years is they all know what kind of player and teammate he has been and they all know he should have been playing and they probably would have made the playoffs. Bottom line for me is play the best players who are on the team. To do otherwise is not just punishing JC but the entire team who worked too hard to have it end like it did. Very frustrating to watch it all play out.
 
Dutch Lane said:
Bobbyc said:
84GRIZ said:
cf2000 said:
If Hauck hadn't screwed Calhoun over from the beginning there wouldn't have been talk of a redshirt year. Sure he sat out the first two games, but how much playing time did he get from Game 3 and on? Only one of those games was he injured and wasn't able to go. The rest of them, he should have been our starter and had the bulk of the carries. Sorry, this is on Hauck.

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

I agree Hauck did the right thing. Winning at any cost with bad people is not the approach that should be taken given the sordid history under engstrom
Winning at any cost? What does that mean in this situtation? Is JC a bad person now? If he was such a bad person then why didn’t Hauck simply send him packing last summer. He was still on the team but was rarely used even though he was the best rb on the team. What was the point of wasting a scholarship on him this year if they had no intention of playing him? I was in the Az ”Haucksucker” camp and I’m still pulling for him to turn things around but I’m not going to ignore the obvious. What sucks for the team and especially the seniors who played with him for 4 years is they all know what kind of player and teammate he has been and they all know he should have been playing and they probably would have made the playoffs. Bottom line for me is play the best players who are on the team. To do otherwise is not just punishing JC but the entire team who worked too hard to have it end like it did. Very frustrating to watch it all play out.

I don' t know why you people can't understand the Huack did play him and start him and intended for him to be RB1 for the last half of the season. he was suspended for three games and was out for another. made him earn his way back and he did. Then calhoun chose not to play when we needed him most. sorry not sorry.
 
grizindabox said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
AZGrizFan said:
I don't think its ironic at all. I wouldn't put it past Bobby's ego to insist on that play (TWICE) simply to show JC how we can move along without him. And it blew up in his face.

Good grief

I know, a stupid as fukc take.

How else do you explain it? The entire POINT of Choake taking the TO is to see what the O is going to run. Then they line up in the exact same formation and run the exact same play? Either BH is stubborn as fuck, or stupid as fuck. You pick.
 
Dutch Lane said:
Bobbyc said:
84GRIZ said:
cf2000 said:
If Hauck hadn't screwed Calhoun over from the beginning there wouldn't have been talk of a redshirt year. Sure he sat out the first two games, but how much playing time did he get from Game 3 and on? Only one of those games was he injured and wasn't able to go. The rest of them, he should have been our starter and had the bulk of the carries. Sorry, this is on Hauck.

How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

I agree Hauck did the right thing. Winning at any cost with bad people is not the approach that should be taken given the sordid history under engstrom
Winning at any cost? What does that mean in this situtation? Is JC a bad person now? If he was such a bad person then why didn’t Hauck simply send him packing last summer. He was still on the team but was rarely used even though he was the best rb on the team. What was the point of wasting a scholarship on him this year if they had no intention of playing him? I was in the Az ”Haucksucker” camp and I’m still pulling for him to turn things around but I’m not going to ignore the obvious. What sucks for the team and especially the seniors who played with him for 4 years is they all know what kind of player and teammate he has been and they all know he should have been playing and they probably would have made the playoffs. Bottom line for me is play the best players who are on the team. To do otherwise is not just punishing JC but the entire team who worked too hard to have it end like it did. Very frustrating to watch it all play out.

You don't seem to understand (at least what we THINK occurred) that JC let his teammates down. His 2018 teammates. He chose not to play with his current (at the time) 2018 teammates in the most important games of the year, hoping to play with his 2019 teammates. The 2018 team was the NOW. The 2019 team is still a concept. Can you imagine Bobby, or any coach, going into the locker room and telling his Seniors, who are prepping not only for two important games, but for their last two games of their lives: "well one of your teammates has decided he won't play these games with you because he wants to play next year"?
 
Holy crap, that right there is some vintage Ursa! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 
maroonandsilver said:
Dutch Lane said:
Bobbyc said:
84GRIZ said:
How did Hauck screw JC over? The big thing that everyone forgets is that the fight settlement plea deal was not finalized until 5:30 pm on September 12th which was the Wednesday afternoon / early evening before the team traveled to Western Illinois. So it makes sense that Hauck was not counting on him for the WIU game which was the 3rd game of the season.

And let's also not forget that JC, after the fight in May got a disorderly conduct charge in June, 5 weeks after the fight.

Quite frankly it was a miracle that he was even on the team at that point.

And then he decides he does not want to play the last two games so he can redshirt when he is not injured and the coaching staff was counting on him? Yeah, Bobby really screwed him over. That's rich.

I agree Hauck did the right thing. Winning at any cost with bad people is not the approach that should be taken given the sordid history under engstrom
Winning at any cost? What does that mean in this situtation? Is JC a bad person now? If he was such a bad person then why didn’t Hauck simply send him packing last summer. He was still on the team but was rarely used even though he was the best rb on the team. What was the point of wasting a scholarship on him this year if they had no intention of playing him? I was in the Az ”Haucksucker” camp and I’m still pulling for him to turn things around but I’m not going to ignore the obvious. What sucks for the team and especially the seniors who played with him for 4 years is they all know what kind of player and teammate he has been and they all know he should have been playing and they probably would have made the playoffs. Bottom line for me is play the best players who are on the team. To do otherwise is not just punishing JC but the entire team who worked too hard to have it end like it did. Very frustrating to watch it all play out.

You don't seem to understand (at least what we THINK occurred) that JC let his teammates down. His 2018 teammates. He chose not to play with his current (at the time) 2018 teammates in the most important games of the year, hoping to play with his 2019 teammates. The 2018 team was the NOW. The 2019 team is still a concept. Can you imagine Bobby, or any coach, going into the locker room and telling his Seniors, who are prepping not only for two important games, but for their last two games of their lives: "well one of your teammates has decided he won't play these games with you because he wants to play next year"?

I think you are being naive. This didn’t happen in a vacuum. You are correct we don’t know what happened between Hauck and JC. We have only heard Haucks side of it. But you dont think that the upperclassmen didn’t discuss any of this on going drama with JC and the rest of the locker room and probably even Hauck? Don’t you think they discussed among themselves or noticed from spring ball going forward why a proven guy, a team leader, who was supposedly punished for his conduct isn’t playing more so as to help their team? They did and they still are. Again we only have Haucks side which is “I already answered that question” At the least the Kiamin reporter had the nuts to keeping asking questions. The fellas at the presser gave him a free pass again.
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
AZGrizFan said:
I don't think its ironic at all. I wouldn't put it past Bobby's ego to insist on that play (TWICE) simply to show JC how we can move along without him. And it blew up in his face.

Good grief

I know, a stupid as fukc take.

How else do you explain it? The entire POINT of Choake taking the TO is to see what the O is going to run. Then they line up in the exact same formation and run the exact same play? Either BH is stubborn as f***, or stupid as f***. You pick.

Just curious, how do either of those options have anything to do with your JC take in the original post?
 
Dutch Lane said:
I always knew that Logan was a selfish teammate, not. Lol.

The part not stated though was 2019 was the plan with Logan all along and the 2018 playing time was just a bonus. This is completely different than what the plan was for JC.
 
Dutch Lane said:
I’m thinking that both Calhoun’s will be playing somewhere else next year. Too bad.

I don't agree that the remaining Calhoun would leave. Why would he do that. His friends and teammates are all here. He's a 3 year starter. Assume he believes the team will be better.
 
Well they are twin brothers who came here as a package deal. Would assume they still want to play together again. Just a hunch from what I heard happened right after the game. I would like to see them both play here again next year. I guess we shall see.
 
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
Good grief

I know, a stupid as fukc take.

How else do you explain it? The entire POINT of Choake taking the TO is to see what the O is going to run. Then they line up in the exact same formation and run the exact same play? Either BH is stubborn as f***, or stupid as f***. You pick.

Just curious, how do either of those options have anything to do with your JC take in the original post?

You don't think it's possible/plausible that BH attempted to show the world and his team that they didn't need no stinkin' Calhoun RB? After all the stubbornness and hardheadedness and favoritism he's already shown and showed in years past? That's not even in the realm of possibility?

If you truly believe that you have a lot more faith in him than I do.
 
hilinegrizfan said:
grizindabox said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
AZGrizFan said:
I don't think its ironic at all. I wouldn't put it past Bobby's ego to insist on that play (TWICE) simply to show JC how we can move along without him. And it blew up in his face.

Good grief

I know, a stupid as fukc take.

Yup, world's most annoying poster.

Well, that's quite a title, but you haven't been here very long, hiline. There's been a plethora of posters here waaaaaay more annoying than me. But thanks. :thumb: :thumb:
 
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
AZGrizFan said:
grizindabox said:
I know, a stupid as fukc take.

How else do you explain it? The entire POINT of Choake taking the TO is to see what the O is going to run. Then they line up in the exact same formation and run the exact same play? Either BH is stubborn as f***, or stupid as f***. You pick.

Just curious, how do either of those options have anything to do with your JC take in the original post?

You don't think it's possible/plausible that BH attempted to show the world and his team that they didn't need no stinkin' Calhoun RB? After all the stubbornness and hardheadedness and favoritism he's already shown and showed in years past? That's not even in the realm of possibility?

If you truly believe that you have a lot more faith in him than I do.

I think that the thought of JC never entered his mind. I think the only thing he was thinking of is scoring a touchdown to win the game. If you seriously think that he was thinking about JC during that sequence, you sir, are an idiot.
 
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